Magic Island fan translation? - Page 3

08 November 2006, 22:24

c00l! maybe the translation won't be needed at all.

Chain · 08 November 2006, 22:57

Quote:

Originally Posted by TheBoss

An english fan translation would be awesome

I also have the original cd32 release so if I can help in anyway, just ask

Click for big picture

hehe

maybe now it will be added in HOL finally

AmigaHope · 09 November 2006, 09:04

Quote:

Originally Posted by viddi

I think there are three versions available.

Two English ones and a demo version.

Make sure to make lots of backups onto a variety of media please... The future of the existence of this game is in your hands. T~T Use TOSEC stuff and make disc images, burn to CD-Rs that you keep in different places, etc. as well as copy on hard drive... That way if your house burns down the disc at your parents' place or whatever still survives.

Please try to extract build info so we can figure out some sort of versioning for the builds that you have. I have a hunch that the best build of the game will be the Czech CD32 version (will probably be the most compatible of the bunch too). It would be best then to see if we can hack the English data from the versions you have into the newer CD32 build.

Also it would be nice if some of these data files could be let loose at some point. Andreas, If I show proof that I've ordered the magazine with coverdisc would it be sufficient to let me have a copy? I mostly want the magazine for the coverdisc as I can't read German. T~T (Only English, Japanese, and Spanish).

Once we have a translated version with the newest build working, and come up with a way to edit the text, we should be able to do a cleaned-up English native-speaker edited version, as well as versions for other languages (I'm sure a German version would be great to put on a later Amiga Future coverdisc).

Shoonay · 09 November 2006, 09:44

Quote:

Originally Posted by AmigaHope

Make sure to make lots of backups [...]

Not to mention sending a copy to each and every EAB member!

AmigaHope · 09 November 2006, 10:23

Quote:

Originally Posted by Shoonay

Not to mention sending a copy to each and every EAB member!

Andreas probably doesn't want that to happen, since he does have the commercial rights to it. I'm sure eventually he'll okay a release, but for now you should buy the issue of Amiga Future with it on the coverdisk.

I think maybe a "patch" should be made available that takes the Amiga Future release (or CD32 release?) and adds English support to it. That's what I've been wanting to work on. =)

viddi · 09 November 2006, 14:24

Hi!

I asked Andreas about sending a full english version to some EAB-members for testing and WHDloading.

He said "yes"!
BUT: please don´t share it with others!

We should build up a testing and WHDload team.
If we´re successful, we´ll return our work to Andreas.

I think to release it on the Amiga Future CD first is a good idea and after that it´ll be downloadable.

Please send me a PM if you want to test or WHDload it!
And please tell me if you want ADFs or a depacked HD-version, or both

And don´t be afraid about the original or backup.
As a real Amiga-Fan I keep this gem at several places.
Yesterday I really thought about my flat burning down and another lost Amiga Game

So, don´t worry!

AmigaHope · 09 November 2006, 22:12

Quote:

Originally Posted by viddi

I asked Andreas about sending a full english version to some EAB-members for testing and WHDloading.

Sounds good, but it will probably leak at some point from someone. I guess the best we can do is smack anyone who puts it on the zone or whatever.

My main goal is to see if I can get the English bits to work in other versions of the game, as well as figuring out which version is which (grepping for some sort of version string or whatever)

Quote:

Originally Posted by viddi

Yesterday I really thought about my flat burning down and another lost Amiga Game

So, don´t worry!

Exactly! >.<;; There are so many games that have been lost due to stuff like that. Especially source code since often the programmer didn't share with anyone, and then his hard drive crashes or whatever....

Incidentally, did any of those disks contain any source code? That would be great for making a fixed version or updating the translation.

Oh and lastly, anyone interested in this, let's thank Andreas for his help by picking up a copy of Amiga Future!

viddi · 09 November 2006, 22:26

Hi again.

Well, I think we should trust each other and do it this way.

It´ll be downloadable in the end. So no problem.

There is no source code available. Sorry.
But do you want the game for testing?

BTW: WHO IS ABLE TO DO A WHDLOAD-INSTALL ???

Thanks guys.

10 November 2006, 14:53

Quote:

Originally Posted by viddi

BTW: WHO IS ABLE TO DO A WHDLOAD-INSTALL ???
Thanks guys.

I will ask in WHDLoad yahoo group.

viddi · 10 November 2006, 15:37

@ glwxxx:

Thanks.

viddi · 10 November 2006, 17:27

News:

Andreas told me that there might be a copy protection.

Maybe you will be asked for a word from the manual.

Please report if there is such a thing.
In that case, we have to send an English manual to the WHDload-Coder and we must check if the existing manual is correct.

Andreas also said, that Magic Island will be available as a download right after we finished our work.

TheBoss · 10 November 2006, 18:28

The Czech CD32 version have been send to Andreas so it should be downloadeble on his site in near future too

AmigaHope · 11 November 2006, 20:40

Well I've taken an initial look at the beast. =)

As expected, the English is horrific. It could definitely use a cleanup. =P It's screamingly bad and unintelligible in spots.

All executeables are stored in Powerpacker 4.0 format with no encryption of any sort. XFD happily decompresses them. Music modules are OctaMED format.

The text is NOT just in separate data files, those data files only appear to contain conversation text from inside the main game engine. Other kinds of text for things like inventory, spells, common reactions to in-game objects, etc. are hardcoded in the executeables.

The intro and character recruiting segments are each separate executeables from the main game engine. The text in the character recruiting segment is hardcoded into the executeable. Text in the intro segment is all graphical (which will make it a pain to edit, might want to leave that stuff as-is).

There is indeed a manual lookup protection in the game. We'll have to figure out what places it gets triggered. A crack shouldn't be very hard to make given a little time in Resource as they don't seem to be doing any hardcore attempts at slowing crackers down (no checksumming of code, etc.) and manual lookup protection tends to be very easy to crack.

Incidentally could someone put up the last full version of Resource up in the zone? My Amiga dev tools are all very, very old. =P It was definitely my favorite disassembler back in the day. =)

viddi · 11 November 2006, 22:06

Thanks for your afforts, AmigaHope.

I found out that there is no difference between the two English versions.

And after playing a while no errors (like gurus or strange behaviour) were found.

I hope glwxxx finds a WHDload-Coder.

Chain · 11 November 2006, 22:07

IF anybody need scanned manual just tellme

11 November 2006, 22:09

I already posted a request in WHDLoad yahoo group explaining what is needed. Let's see what happens...

viddi · 11 November 2006, 22:11

Great, Chain and glwxxx.

TheBoss · 11 November 2006, 23:33

Just started a little project today and my first work is for Magic Island CD32 so I thought I should post here

Link: http://customcovers.webhop.org

Chain · 11 November 2006, 23:41

Quote:

Originally Posted by TheBoss

Just started a little project today and my first work is for Magic Island CD32 so I thought I should post here

Link: http://customcovers.webhop.org

Heey, thats really nice

viddi · 12 November 2006, 00:11

@ TheBoss:

THIS is very cool. Something for my Amiga CD-Collection

09 November 2006, 14:24	#46
viddi Moderator Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Germany Age: 44 Posts: 4,007	Hi! I asked Andreas about sending a full english version to some EAB-members for testing and WHDloading. He said "yes"! BUT: please don´t share it with others! We should build up a testing and WHDload team. If we´re successful, we´ll return our work to Andreas. I think to release it on the Amiga Future CD first is a good idea and after that it´ll be downloadable. Please send me a PM if you want to test or WHDload it! And please tell me if you want ADFs or a depacked HD-version, or both And don´t be afraid about the original or backup. As a real Amiga-Fan I keep this gem at several places. Yesterday I really thought about my flat burning down and another lost Amiga Game So, don´t worry! Last edited by viddi; 09 November 2006 at 15:00.

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08 November 2006, 22:24	#41
glwxxx Posts: n/a	c00l! maybe the translation won't be needed at all.

09 November 2006, 22:26	#48
viddi Moderator Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Germany Age: 44 Posts: 4,007	Hi again. Well, I think we should trust each other and do it this way. It´ll be downloadable in the end. So no problem. There is no source code available. Sorry. But do you want the game for testing? BTW: WHO IS ABLE TO DO A WHDLOAD-INSTALL ??? Thanks guys.

10 November 2006, 15:37	#50
viddi Moderator Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Germany Age: 44 Posts: 4,007	@ glwxxx: Thanks.

10 November 2006, 17:27	#51
viddi Moderator Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Germany Age: 44 Posts: 4,007	News: Andreas told me that there might be a copy protection. Maybe you will be asked for a word from the manual. Please report if there is such a thing. In that case, we have to send an English manual to the WHDload-Coder and we must check if the existing manual is correct. Andreas also said, that Magic Island will be available as a download right after we finished our work.

10 November 2006, 18:28	#52
TheBoss Registered User Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Denmark Posts: 840	The Czech CD32 version have been send to Andreas so it should be downloadeble on his site in near future too

11 November 2006, 20:40	#53
AmigaHope Registered User Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: New Sandusky Posts: 942	Well I've taken an initial look at the beast. =) As expected, the English is horrific. It could definitely use a cleanup. =P It's screamingly bad and unintelligible in spots. All executeables are stored in Powerpacker 4.0 format with no encryption of any sort. XFD happily decompresses them. Music modules are OctaMED format. The text is NOT just in separate data files, those data files only appear to contain conversation text from inside the main game engine. Other kinds of text for things like inventory, spells, common reactions to in-game objects, etc. are hardcoded in the executeables. The intro and character recruiting segments are each separate executeables from the main game engine. The text in the character recruiting segment is hardcoded into the executeable. Text in the intro segment is all graphical (which will make it a pain to edit, might want to leave that stuff as-is). There is indeed a manual lookup protection in the game. We'll have to figure out what places it gets triggered. A crack shouldn't be very hard to make given a little time in Resource as they don't seem to be doing any hardcore attempts at slowing crackers down (no checksumming of code, etc.) and manual lookup protection tends to be very easy to crack. Incidentally could someone put up the last full version of Resource up in the zone? My Amiga dev tools are all very, very old. =P It was definitely my favorite disassembler back in the day. =)

11 November 2006, 22:06	#54
viddi Moderator Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Germany Age: 44 Posts: 4,007	Thanks for your afforts, AmigaHope. I found out that there is no difference between the two English versions. And after playing a while no errors (like gurus or strange behaviour) were found. I hope glwxxx finds a WHDload-Coder.

11 November 2006, 22:07	#55
Chain A-Collector, repairments Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Czech Rep. Age: 50 Posts: 1,536	IF anybody need scanned manual just tellme

11 November 2006, 22:09	#56
glwxxx Posts: n/a	I already posted a request in WHDLoad yahoo group explaining what is needed. Let's see what happens...

11 November 2006, 22:11	#57
viddi Moderator Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Germany Age: 44 Posts: 4,007	Great, Chain and glwxxx.

11 November 2006, 23:33	#58
TheBoss Registered User Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Denmark Posts: 840	Just started a little project today and my first work is for Magic Island CD32 so I thought I should post here Link: http://customcovers.webhop.org

12 November 2006, 00:11	#60
viddi Moderator Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Germany Age: 44 Posts: 4,007	@ TheBoss: THIS is very cool. Something for my Amiga CD-Collection

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