Obitus

mai · 09 September 2009, 20:13

I would say
Year of first release is 1990
because
- Discscan says 1990 too
- cracked version was released also end of 1990.

dlfrsilver · 12 September 2009, 07:39

indeed, it is 1990.

andreas · 16 September 2009, 09:34

Maybe another case that the cracked version is a preview or beta?
NOT changed (yet).

http://hol.abime.net/2275/review

There is no review that dates before February 1991.
That's why I love AMR so much! This has helped to fix lots of wrong dates, because it's hardly plausible that a magazine would "wait" 2 months after release date to publish the review. Nah!

Here's the Atari version, which must have come AFTER the Amiga one because it was not reviewed until late 1991:
http://www.mobygames.com/game/atari-st/obitus (ST Action 11/1991)
http://www.atari.st/view.php?id=1186 (ST Format 6/1992)

Diskscan = "1990": this means (C) 1990, which could be due to a version released on another platform BEFORE the Amiga one.
Could it be that Obitus is not an Amiga original?
In rare cases, it's also possible that the copyright predates the release date, especially at the turn of the year, or if the game features characters licensed from some movie or comic-strip company (Buena Vista; Hasbro etc.)

I've changed the entry to enter some release dates of conversions (ST: 1991, SNES/Famicom: 1994), but yet I left the year for the Amiga version untouched for the time being.

Retro-Nerd · 16 September 2009, 09:50

There are February-April 1991 magazine reviews. I would say an early 1991 release.

andreas · 16 September 2009, 10:13

ACK; me too.
And chances are very good that the crack is a leaked pre-final version.

TCD · 16 September 2009, 10:22

Quote:

Originally Posted by andreas

Diskscan = "1990": this means (C) 1990, which could be due to a version released on another platform BEFORE the Amiga one.
Could it be that Obitus is not an Amiga original?
In rare cases, it's also possible that the copyright predates the release date, especially at the turn of the year, or if the game features characters licensed from some movie or comic-strip company (Buena Vista; Hasbro etc.)

I think it's not so rare that the copyright predates a few months from the actual release. Anyone know someone that was at Psygnosis at that time and confirm the year and Amiga original bit?

dlfrsilver · 16 September 2009, 12:40

This game is amiga original. The ST and PC versions came after.

The Box says 1990, the disks 1990 and also the manual.

Retro-Nerd · 16 September 2009, 20:33

Quote:

Originally Posted by dlfrsilver

The Box says 1990, the disks 1990 and also the manual.

This means nothing. Maybe completed in December 1990 and released in January/February 1991.

dlfrsilver · 16 September 2009, 20:59

but the date we retain is the date present on the material. No ?

Retro-Nerd · 16 September 2009, 21:12

HOL retains the release year, not the Copyright.

TCD · 16 September 2009, 21:26

Have a look here Denis : http://eab.abime.net/showthread.php?p=487758#post487758

andreas · 18 September 2009, 01:25

Quote:

Originally Posted by Retro-Nerd

HOL retains the release year, not the Copyright.

True!!

Thanks for pointing that out (again).

Quoting CodyJarrett:

Quote:

Originally Posted by mai

This means Boxscan and Diskscan are proofs?

No, I checked it against the magazine reviews, which are all <Ed: some year>.

Magazine reviews are really a very reliable source, because they'd always strive to be the first to have the game on their pages, if not 1 month before their competitors

09 September 2009, 20:13	#1
mai Registered User Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Federativnaya Respublika Germaniya Posts: 4,994	Obitus I would say Year of first release is 1990 because - Discscan says 1990 too - cracked version was released also end of 1990.

16 September 2009, 09:34	#3
andreas Zone Friend Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: Germany Age: 50 Posts: 5,857	Maybe another case that the cracked version is a preview or beta? NOT changed (yet). http://hol.abime.net/2275/review There is no review that dates before February 1991. That's why I love AMR so much! This has helped to fix lots of wrong dates, because it's hardly plausible that a magazine would "wait" 2 months after release date to publish the review. Nah! Here's the Atari version, which must have come AFTER the Amiga one because it was not reviewed until late 1991: http://www.mobygames.com/game/atari-st/obitus (ST Action 11/1991) http://www.atari.st/view.php?id=1186 (ST Format 6/1992) Diskscan = "1990": this means (C) 1990, which could be due to a version released on another platform BEFORE the Amiga one. Could it be that Obitus is not an Amiga original? In rare cases, it's also possible that the copyright predates the release date, especially at the turn of the year, or if the game features characters licensed from some movie or comic-strip company (Buena Vista; Hasbro etc.) I've changed the entry to enter some release dates of conversions (ST: 1991, SNES/Famicom: 1994), but yet I left the year for the Amiga version untouched for the time being. Last edited by andreas; 16 September 2009 at 10:11.

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12 September 2009, 07:39	#2
dlfrsilver CaptainM68K-SPS France Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Melun nearby Paris/France Age: 46 Posts: 10,424	indeed, it is 1990.

16 September 2009, 09:50	#4
Retro-Nerd Missile Command Champion Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Germany Age: 52 Posts: 12,447	There are February-April 1991 magazine reviews. I would say an early 1991 release.

16 September 2009, 10:13	#5
andreas Zone Friend Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: Germany Age: 50 Posts: 5,857	ACK; me too. And chances are very good that the crack is a leaked pre-final version.

16 September 2009, 12:40	#7
dlfrsilver CaptainM68K-SPS France Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Melun nearby Paris/France Age: 46 Posts: 10,424	This game is amiga original. The ST and PC versions came after. The Box says 1990, the disks 1990 and also the manual.

16 September 2009, 20:59	#9
dlfrsilver CaptainM68K-SPS France Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Melun nearby Paris/France Age: 46 Posts: 10,424	but the date we retain is the date present on the material. No ?

16 September 2009, 21:12	#10
Retro-Nerd Missile Command Champion Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Germany Age: 52 Posts: 12,447	HOL retains the release year, not the Copyright.

16 September 2009, 21:26	#11
TCD HOL/FTP busy bee Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Germany Age: 46 Posts: 31,612	Have a look here Denis : http://eab.abime.net/showthread.php?p=487758#post487758

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