Sega Saturn emulation

boing_1000 · 18 January 2007, 19:36

Ok I dunno if you guys over in the UK called it the Saturn bc I know you guys had a different name for the Genesis (Mega Drive), but I was wondering if anyone had tried to emulate the Saturn. I've been wanting to do it for a while and the emulator satourne is confusing to configure in my opinion. It says I need to retrieve the bios files somehow from the system and I don't know how to do that. Can anyone help me?

keropi · 18 January 2007, 19:44

those BIOS images are available freely on SEGAXTREME ....
look here in the saturn section:

http://segaxtreme.net/content/emulation.html

I have a saturn too (called saturn here too) but the emus I tried sucked... u need a beefy pc for them...

Mick_AKA · 18 January 2007, 19:52

I was told last year at a trade show that there was not a PC on the market that was powerful enough to handle proper Saturn emulation!
Its not something im too fussed about though, the Saturn is easilly my favorite console ever just ahead of my NES, I brought one the day it was released and now I own every UK released game for it.
I heard romours that some dude in Japan had built a hybrid Saturn/Dreamcast console that fitted into two 5.25 inch bays and played games through software on the host PC, although this was something I never got to see.
All the so called emulators that have creeped out over the years have been total cack.

keropi · 18 January 2007, 20:00

yeah, speed sucked on an athlon1800+ I tried it n the past, but nowdays with dual core cpu's, maybe things changed!
I keep an eye on http://ngemu.com/ , that covers these kinds of emus... SSF seem to update often, I would not be surprised if it run OK on a modern pc...

alexh · 18 January 2007, 21:22

I thought that Saturn emulation was ok, as is Dreamcast (Chankast). Although why you would want to when both systems cost next to nothing and Dreamcast can even boot backup disks with no mods.

PS2 emulation is slow with current gen PC's

P.S. No emulation that I know of currently uses two CPU's even if they are available.

keropi · 18 January 2007, 21:43

@alexh:

the most advanced ps2 emu (can't remember the name though) that actually runs games with a geforce7 gpu, uses dual core cpu's... one takes the gfx data and the other the rest...

s2325 · 18 January 2007, 21:54

pcsx 2?

keropi · 18 January 2007, 22:01

dunno, I read it on the NGEMU site I gave above...

alexh · 18 January 2007, 22:32

Have you ever looked at the FPS in those screenshots. We have an X6800 with Geforce 8800 here at work and it only just runs PCSX2 at anything near usable rates... still well below real rates.

boing_1000 · 18 January 2007, 22:37

Does Planet Emu have the Game ROMs for Saturn and Dreamcast? Or is there another better website for the ROM's?

Btw would anyone know how to make ROM's out of games that I already own?

DamienD · 18 January 2007, 22:39

Try SnesOrama forum http://snesorama.us/board/forumdisplay.php?f=18

keropi · 18 January 2007, 22:50

saturn roms? dreamcast roms? are you serious?
those have CDROMS, u need cd images.... if u own a game, just make an ISO and load it on the emu!

@alexh:
dunno about ps2 emus, never bothered really, because I have a ps2 and only a modest 2600+ pc...

boing_1000 · 18 January 2007, 22:57

..I'm slightly retarded

I ask the stupidest questions, I really should know this by now haha.

Retroplay · 18 January 2007, 23:15

Quote:

Originally Posted by keropi

those BIOS images are available freely on SEGAXTREME ....
look here in the saturn section:

http://segaxtreme.net/content/emulation.html

I have a saturn too (called saturn here too) but the emus I tried sucked... u need a beefy pc for them...

Well if you have a P4, Athlon64 or better you can't go wrong with SSF.
http://www7a.biglobe.ne.jp/~phantasy/
It plays just about everything you throw at it fullspeed.
I'm currently playing Akumajou Dracula, Panzer Dragoon Saga and Sega Rally and they all work great without any issues.
A must have.

keropi · 18 January 2007, 23:19

@retroplay:
does akumaju dracula plays nice? because on a real saturn it just SUCKS. I know because I have tried it on my saturn....

Retroplay · 18 January 2007, 23:26

Quote:

Originally Posted by keropi

@retroplay:
does akumaju dracula plays nice? because on a real saturn it just SUCKS. I know because I have tried it on my saturn....

The slowdowns are there as they are on real hardware but it plays just like the real thing.

The PS1 version is the best but the extra areas the Saturn version has makes it a must have.

keropi · 18 January 2007, 23:27

bah...
if only it was as good as the psx version.... the extra goodies don't make up for the jerkyness IMHO...

Retroplay · 18 January 2007, 23:34

Well I don't think it's that bad.
Funny thing is that the Saturn has superior 2D hardware compared to the PS1.
I wonder how the X360 version turns out.
Maybe that's a good reason to get one.

demoniac · 19 January 2007, 00:13

Quote:

Originally Posted by Retroplay

Well if you have a P4, Athlon64 or better you can't go wrong with SSF.
http://www7a.biglobe.ne.jp/~phantasy/
It plays just about everything you throw at it fullspeed.
I'm currently playing Akumajou Dracula, Panzer Dragoon Saga and Sega Rally and they all work great without any issues.
A must have.

Anyone try emulating Grandia on it? I've read that the Saturn version is much better than PS1.

boing_1000 · 19 January 2007, 00:20

Having trouble making a usable ISO image. I have the Nero 6 suite, but which program should I use?

BTW tried SSF and it works great! Automatically reads the Saturn game I have in the drive. But how would I configure a USB gamepad for use in the emulator?

18 January 2007, 19:36	#1
boing_1000 A1000 Addict Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Eastern USA Age: 37 Posts: 567	Sega Saturn emulation Ok I dunno if you guys over in the UK called it the Saturn bc I know you guys had a different name for the Genesis (Mega Drive), but I was wondering if anyone had tried to emulate the Saturn. I've been wanting to do it for a while and the emulator satourne is confusing to configure in my opinion. It says I need to retrieve the bios files somehow from the system and I don't know how to do that. Can anyone help me?

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18 January 2007, 19:44	#2
keropi . Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Ioannina/Greece Posts: 5,040	those BIOS images are available freely on SEGAXTREME .... look here in the saturn section: http://segaxtreme.net/content/emulation.html I have a saturn too (called saturn here too) but the emus I tried sucked... u need a beefy pc for them...

18 January 2007, 19:52	#3
Mick_AKA crusader of light Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Stone, Staffordshire. Posts: 1,151	I was told last year at a trade show that there was not a PC on the market that was powerful enough to handle proper Saturn emulation! Its not something im too fussed about though, the Saturn is easilly my favorite console ever just ahead of my NES, I brought one the day it was released and now I own every UK released game for it. I heard romours that some dude in Japan had built a hybrid Saturn/Dreamcast console that fitted into two 5.25 inch bays and played games through software on the host PC, although this was something I never got to see. All the so called emulators that have creeped out over the years have been total cack.

18 January 2007, 20:00	#4
keropi . Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Ioannina/Greece Posts: 5,040	yeah, speed sucked on an athlon1800+ I tried it n the past, but nowdays with dual core cpu's, maybe things changed! I keep an eye on http://ngemu.com/ , that covers these kinds of emus... SSF seem to update often, I would not be surprised if it run OK on a modern pc...

18 January 2007, 21:22	#5
alexh Thalion Webshrine Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Oxford Posts: 14,342	I thought that Saturn emulation was ok, as is Dreamcast (Chankast). Although why you would want to when both systems cost next to nothing and Dreamcast can even boot backup disks with no mods. PS2 emulation is slow with current gen PC's P.S. No emulation that I know of currently uses two CPU's even if they are available.

18 January 2007, 21:43	#6
keropi . Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Ioannina/Greece Posts: 5,040	@alexh: the most advanced ps2 emu (can't remember the name though) that actually runs games with a geforce7 gpu, uses dual core cpu's... one takes the gfx data and the other the rest...

18 January 2007, 21:54	#7
s2325 Zone Friend Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Gargore Age: 43 Posts: 17,789	pcsx 2?

18 January 2007, 22:01	#8
keropi . Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Ioannina/Greece Posts: 5,040	dunno, I read it on the NGEMU site I gave above...

18 January 2007, 22:32	#9
alexh Thalion Webshrine Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Oxford Posts: 14,342	Have you ever looked at the FPS in those screenshots. We have an X6800 with Geforce 8800 here at work and it only just runs PCSX2 at anything near usable rates... still well below real rates.

18 January 2007, 22:37	#10
boing_1000 A1000 Addict Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Eastern USA Age: 37 Posts: 567	Does Planet Emu have the Game ROMs for Saturn and Dreamcast? Or is there another better website for the ROM's? Btw would anyone know how to make ROM's out of games that I already own?

18 January 2007, 22:39	#11
DamienD Banned Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: London / Sydney Age: 47 Posts: 20,420	Try SnesOrama forum http://snesorama.us/board/forumdisplay.php?f=18

18 January 2007, 22:50	#12
keropi . Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Ioannina/Greece Posts: 5,040	saturn roms? dreamcast roms? are you serious? those have CDROMS, u need cd images.... if u own a game, just make an ISO and load it on the emu! @alexh: dunno about ps2 emus, never bothered really, because I have a ps2 and only a modest 2600+ pc...

18 January 2007, 22:57	#13
boing_1000 A1000 Addict Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Eastern USA Age: 37 Posts: 567	..I'm slightly retarded I ask the stupidest questions, I really should know this by now haha.

18 January 2007, 23:19	#15
keropi . Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Ioannina/Greece Posts: 5,040	@retroplay: does akumaju dracula plays nice? because on a real saturn it just SUCKS. I know because I have tried it on my saturn....

18 January 2007, 23:27	#17
keropi . Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Ioannina/Greece Posts: 5,040	bah... if only it was as good as the psx version.... the extra goodies don't make up for the jerkyness IMHO...

18 January 2007, 23:34	#18
Retroplay Lemon Curry ? Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Denmark Age: 49 Posts: 4,081	Well I don't think it's that bad. Funny thing is that the Saturn has superior 2D hardware compared to the PS1. I wonder how the X360 version turns out. Maybe that's a good reason to get one.

19 January 2007, 00:20	#20
boing_1000 A1000 Addict Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Eastern USA Age: 37 Posts: 567	Having trouble making a usable ISO image. I have the Nero 6 suite, but which program should I use? BTW tried SSF and it works great! Automatically reads the Saturn game I have in the drive. But how would I configure a USB gamepad for use in the emulator?

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