Ivanhoe (Amiga), 11 programmers on it but is the end result good?! - Page 2

Retro-Nerd · 13 March 2024, 01:40

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Marks at the time were tricked. Simply because the publisher bought pages of advertisement.

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I'm talking only for games that were average or bad.

Very good games are not concerned.....

Some magazines testers/journalists confessed about this......

Commodore (pushing it as a A600 mascot) probably did this for Zool. Such a mediocre game wasn't worth more than 50-60%.

VladR · 13 March 2024, 01:59

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Originally Posted by Retro-Nerd

Commodore (pushing it as a A600 mascot) probably did this for Zool. Such a mediocre game wasn't worth more than 50-60%.

Admittedly, I was never a target market for such platformers.

I never understood the hype about Mario either.

But I played Zool on PC for couple hours back then and it felt as soulless, empty and boring as Mario.

Was the Amiga conversion botched in some way, perhaps ?

I would certainly rate Zool the same as Mario from my standpoint, but I haven't played either game more than couple hours as there were dozens significantly better games at the time...

Retro-Nerd · 13 March 2024, 02:17

No, but it is boring in any imaginable way. Never understood the high ratings in magazines.

touko · 13 March 2024, 08:51

Like most occidental games of this era, this game was impressive to see in magazines, but terrible to play .

Megalomaniac · 13 March 2024, 10:10

I was disappointed with Zool as well. The skiddy control and limited view area in front of you make it impossible not to be hit, too much inertia, enemies respawning too quickly, too many awkward walls to climb one-jump-at-a-time, utterly unguessable puzzles like the piano. The Sonic and Mario games generally have much better, fairer design. It doesn't feel like a console game either - no two-button controller support, a choice of bad music and bad sound, pretty mediocre graphics too. I get the feeling people reviewed the game they WANTED it to be, not the game it actually was. Zool 2 is actually a better game, though it lacks the admitted smoothness of the first one. Mags outside of the UK mostly scored it in the 80%, which I think is still too much but certainly closer to reality than what Amiga Action and Amiga Format said.

oscar_ates · 13 March 2024, 22:48

Did not like Zool as well. Super frog was much better

Galahad/FLT · 13 March 2024, 23:55

I remember the previews in the magazines for it long before it came out and the graphics looked great..... and then we got to see it, and my oh my, ridiculously slow.

13 March 2024, 08:51	#24
touko Registered User Join Date: Dec 2017 Location: france Posts: 186	Like most occidental games of this era, this game was impressive to see in magazines, but terrible to play . Last edited by touko; 13 March 2024 at 11:58.

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13 March 2024, 02:17	#23
Retro-Nerd Missile Command Champion Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Germany Age: 52 Posts: 12,444	No, but it is boring in any imaginable way. Never understood the high ratings in magazines.

13 March 2024, 10:10	#25
Megalomaniac Registered User Join Date: Sep 2022 Location: Eastbourne Posts: 1,014	I was disappointed with Zool as well. The skiddy control and limited view area in front of you make it impossible not to be hit, too much inertia, enemies respawning too quickly, too many awkward walls to climb one-jump-at-a-time, utterly unguessable puzzles like the piano. The Sonic and Mario games generally have much better, fairer design. It doesn't feel like a console game either - no two-button controller support, a choice of bad music and bad sound, pretty mediocre graphics too. I get the feeling people reviewed the game they WANTED it to be, not the game it actually was. Zool 2 is actually a better game, though it lacks the admitted smoothness of the first one. Mags outside of the UK mostly scored it in the 80%, which I think is still too much but certainly closer to reality than what Amiga Action and Amiga Format said.

13 March 2024, 22:48	#26
oscar_ates Registered User Join Date: Nov 2021 Location: Utrecht/Netherlands Posts: 324	Did not like Zool as well. Super frog was much better

13 March 2024, 23:55	#27
Galahad/FLT Going nowhere Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: United Kingdom Age: 50 Posts: 8,994	I remember the previews in the magazines for it long before it came out and the graphics looked great..... and then we got to see it, and my oh my, ridiculously slow.

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