romboot replacement (new kickscreen) - Page 2

Turran · 04 September 2013, 15:34

Easy =) I have a CF card that is reachable from the outside via Kipper2k CF-IDE adapter.

Boot with no startup-sequence
acatune -maprom sys:test\romfile.rom

Once its loaded, in the split second it takes for it to initialize again, pull the card =) Boom, kickstart screen. Hehe. Yes I know your should not do that, but I am the curious type.

mfilos · 04 September 2013, 16:44

LOL!
I have same adapter but I don't dare to pull it out when power is on

Floppy kicking via Acatune though is a safe solution for testing.

jbenam · 04 September 2013, 22:06

Quote:

Originally Posted by Quagliarulo

What kind of hardware allows you to boot from an SD card? I assume drivers and other stuff must reside in ROM for it to work.

That looks like a boot animation made specifically for minimig or the HxC floppy emulator

After all this just modifies the appearance of the kick screen

07 September 2013, 18:09

Here is how it looks in my custom KS3.9 rom :

All blue borders are missing because I'm using BBlank in my ROM. Is there a way to fix it ?

Turran · 07 September 2013, 20:24

You got 44.3 working in a real kickstart rom?

I stopped using BBlank in the rom because of that exact reason..

Amiga1992 · 07 September 2013, 23:05

I would love to be able to design my own screen to this. Then again, I never see this screen, I have hard drives :P

mfilos · 07 September 2013, 23:52

No sadly there is no way to fix this (at least for now).

BBlank has this side-effect for Kickstart screen that sux a$$ :P
I removed BBlank module from ROM as well so I'm now using MCP's BBlank feature for same effect. It's just you don't have Border blanking in Early Startup Menu or loading floppy disks

wXR · 08 September 2013, 09:43

Can someone please make that ball rotate?

Ratte · 09 September 2013, 12:47

Hmm ... time to code a NoHDD-Reset ?!

mfilos · 09 September 2013, 13:04

@Ratte
LOL! Amusing idea

Turran · 09 September 2013, 18:32

There is a command om aminet to disable the IDE port. Not sure if it brings you back to the kickstart screen on reboot though =) I used it in my A4000 to disable it when I bought the fast ATA card and did not have a IDE terminator yet.

Turran · 05 October 2013, 12:01

@mfilos
Did you find time to test this in a real kickstart rom yet?

Better yet, has anyone got this to work in a real kickstart rom (not mapromed).

mfilos · 05 October 2013, 12:16

I tried it only with MapROM using a floppy disk and it worked just fine.
Today I'm gonna try it with real rom and report back man.

Turran · 05 October 2013, 12:19

Thanks =) I've only tested 44.3. I'm doing 44.0 now as well incase its the background color it does not like.

Edit: Yes, 44.0 seems to work fine in real rom. Something with the background color then perhaps that the amiga does not like in a real eprom =)

mfilos · 05 October 2013, 13:37

Ok just tried my friend

I burned two ROMS both of which were plain 3.1 with a new romboot (44.3 = 3D Logo + Disk) plus NoClick module inside.
EPROMS were AMD 27C400 at 120ns.
- First was burned normally
- Second was burned normally plus the SpeedyROM option in Remus

Both ROMS operate just fine in my A600 showing correctly the new romboot logo

(nice to see that in real life as well).

Sadly I can't try it with 1MB ROM as I don't have a spare 27C800 atm

I have to order some to have and I'll make a try once I have these.

Turran · 05 October 2013, 13:50

Most weird. I have to do some more tests as well it seems. Just have to order more 27C400 as I'm all out. Seems the Chinese holidays are still going on though as its hard to get a hold of anyone over there. Need 100, 105 or 120 roms but only 150 at ebay right now.

Thanks for that! At least now I know you should probaby get a picture with 44.3 as well.

Keeping these for now as I got the latest icon.library updated in them as well.

Very strange how this can be so much fun.. I burned EPROMs 20 years ago (BIOS for PC) but that was boring.

mfilos · 05 October 2013, 14:03

This is the reason I'm so fed up with EPROMS

We certainly need a FAST erasable solution for our beloved A600s and it would be best if it could be flashed directly from our Amigas to replace using External programmers and Windows for that task.

Lets see if kipper2k's + RedskullDC's work will be ready this year (http://eab.abime.net/showpost.php?p=...&postcount=133)

Amiga1992 · 06 October 2013, 14:42

Quote:

Originally Posted by mfilos

Lets see if kipper2k's + RedskullDC's work will be ready this year (http://eab.abime.net/showpost.php?p=...&postcount=133)

I am looking forward o Lotharek's development: lotharek.pl/product.php?pid=102

mfilos · 06 October 2013, 15:07

Me too. It's just that according to Lotharek he's gathering interest atm for the A1200 version. Once it's done they will make an A500/600/2000 version as well.

Lets see...

Amiga1992 · 06 October 2013, 16:52

I keep thinking, more and more, that these kind of hardware projects should really be crowdsourced. Nothing shows interest than a bit of cash thrown the way of the developers

05 October 2013, 12:19	#34
Turran Moderator Join Date: May 2012 Location: Stockholm / Sweden Age: 49 Posts: 1,572	Thanks =) I've only tested 44.3. I'm doing 44.0 now as well incase its the background color it does not like. Edit: Yes, 44.0 seems to work fine in real rom. Something with the background color then perhaps that the amiga does not like in a real eprom =) Last edited by Turran; 05 October 2013 at 13:36.

05 October 2013, 13:37	#35
mfilos Paranoid Amigoid Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Athens/Greece Age: 45 Posts: 1,978	Ok just tried my friend I burned two ROMS both of which were plain 3.1 with a new romboot (44.3 = 3D Logo + Disk) plus NoClick module inside. EPROMS were AMD 27C400 at 120ns. - First was burned normally - Second was burned normally plus the SpeedyROM option in Remus Both ROMS operate just fine in my A600 showing correctly the new romboot logo (nice to see that in real life as well). Sadly I can't try it with 1MB ROM as I don't have a spare 27C800 atm I have to order some to have and I'll make a try once I have these. Last edited by mfilos; 05 October 2013 at 13:56.

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04 September 2013, 15:34	#21
Turran Moderator Join Date: May 2012 Location: Stockholm / Sweden Age: 49 Posts: 1,572	Easy =) I have a CF card that is reachable from the outside via Kipper2k CF-IDE adapter. Boot with no startup-sequence acatune -maprom sys:test\romfile.rom Once its loaded, in the split second it takes for it to initialize again, pull the card =) Boom, kickstart screen. Hehe. Yes I know your should not do that, but I am the curious type.

04 September 2013, 16:44	#22
mfilos Paranoid Amigoid Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Athens/Greece Age: 45 Posts: 1,978	LOL! I have same adapter but I don't dare to pull it out when power is on Floppy kicking via Acatune though is a safe solution for testing.

07 September 2013, 18:09	#24
TuKo Posts: n/a	Here is how it looks in my custom KS3.9 rom : All blue borders are missing because I'm using BBlank in my ROM. Is there a way to fix it ?

07 September 2013, 20:24	#25
Turran Moderator Join Date: May 2012 Location: Stockholm / Sweden Age: 49 Posts: 1,572	You got 44.3 working in a real kickstart rom? I stopped using BBlank in the rom because of that exact reason..

07 September 2013, 23:05	#26
Amiga1992 Registered User Join Date: May 2001 Location: ? Posts: 19,645	I would love to be able to design my own screen to this. Then again, I never see this screen, I have hard drives :P

07 September 2013, 23:52	#27
mfilos Paranoid Amigoid Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Athens/Greece Age: 45 Posts: 1,978	No sadly there is no way to fix this (at least for now). BBlank has this side-effect for Kickstart screen that sux a$$ :P I removed BBlank module from ROM as well so I'm now using MCP's BBlank feature for same effect. It's just you don't have Border blanking in Early Startup Menu or loading floppy disks

08 September 2013, 09:43	#28
wXR Registered User Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: New York Posts: 552	Can someone please make that ball rotate?

09 September 2013, 12:47	#29
Ratte Registered User Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Germany Posts: 331	Hmm ... time to code a NoHDD-Reset ?!

09 September 2013, 13:04	#30
mfilos Paranoid Amigoid Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Athens/Greece Age: 45 Posts: 1,978	@Ratte LOL! Amusing idea

09 September 2013, 18:32	#31
Turran Moderator Join Date: May 2012 Location: Stockholm / Sweden Age: 49 Posts: 1,572	There is a command om aminet to disable the IDE port. Not sure if it brings you back to the kickstart screen on reboot though =) I used it in my A4000 to disable it when I bought the fast ATA card and did not have a IDE terminator yet.

05 October 2013, 12:01	#32
Turran Moderator Join Date: May 2012 Location: Stockholm / Sweden Age: 49 Posts: 1,572	@mfilos Did you find time to test this in a real kickstart rom yet? Better yet, has anyone got this to work in a real kickstart rom (not mapromed).

05 October 2013, 12:16	#33
mfilos Paranoid Amigoid Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Athens/Greece Age: 45 Posts: 1,978	I tried it only with MapROM using a floppy disk and it worked just fine. Today I'm gonna try it with real rom and report back man.

05 October 2013, 13:50	#36
Turran Moderator Join Date: May 2012 Location: Stockholm / Sweden Age: 49 Posts: 1,572	Most weird. I have to do some more tests as well it seems. Just have to order more 27C400 as I'm all out. Seems the Chinese holidays are still going on though as its hard to get a hold of anyone over there. Need 100, 105 or 120 roms but only 150 at ebay right now. Thanks for that! At least now I know you should probaby get a picture with 44.3 as well. Keeping these for now as I got the latest icon.library updated in them as well. Very strange how this can be so much fun.. I burned EPROMs 20 years ago (BIOS for PC) but that was boring.

05 October 2013, 14:03	#37
mfilos Paranoid Amigoid Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Athens/Greece Age: 45 Posts: 1,978	This is the reason I'm so fed up with EPROMS We certainly need a FAST erasable solution for our beloved A600s and it would be best if it could be flashed directly from our Amigas to replace using External programmers and Windows for that task. Lets see if kipper2k's + RedskullDC's work will be ready this year (http://eab.abime.net/showpost.php?p=...&postcount=133)

06 October 2013, 15:07	#39
mfilos Paranoid Amigoid Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Athens/Greece Age: 45 Posts: 1,978	Me too. It's just that according to Lotharek he's gathering interest atm for the A1200 version. Once it's done they will make an A500/600/2000 version as well. Lets see...

06 October 2013, 16:52	#40
Amiga1992 Registered User Join Date: May 2001 Location: ? Posts: 19,645	I keep thinking, more and more, that these kind of hardware projects should really be crowdsourced. Nothing shows interest than a bit of cash thrown the way of the developers

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