Alien Breed 3D II v1.1 (turbo patch) - Page 3

daxb · 01 April 2011, 23:01

Hmm... I get up to 13 FPS and 9 FPS (full screen) on my 040/40 32MB system. It is 030 optimized or only with the new 030 accelrator boards possible?

Psygore · 02 April 2011, 09:27

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ebster

i wonder how one gets 20 fps with a 030 in full screen...

my april fools, sorry

Ebster · 02 April 2011, 09:52

ha ha

GREAT!! there were so many in my local C=64 forum yesterday - i did not believe one... this one i took for real. thanks again!

ppill · 02 April 2011, 13:49

Quote:

Originally Posted by daxb

Hmm... I get up to 13 FPS and 9 FPS (full screen) on my 040/40 32MB system. It is 030 optimized or only with the new 030 accelrator boards possible?

That's about what I get. Wonder what an 060 can manage...

johnz · 06 April 2011, 18:05

it would be cool to whdload the expansion of alien breed 3d2 with many new levels and monster

OldB0y · 07 April 2011, 10:03

Quote:

Originally Posted by ppill

That's about what I get. Wonder what an 060 can manage...

I have an A1200 with Blizzard 1260/50. With full detail and max resolution, I get:

Full screen I get 9fps max.
Window mode gets up to 19FPS, depending on the size of the room etc.

No difference to the 040/40 at all full screen then really. In window mode the frame rate fluctuates wildly from 13 - 19fps, whereas in full screen mode theres only the occasional dip to 6fps.

I'd guess the bottleneck is probably down to the way the game uses the custom chips/chip ram etc (This could be utter bollocks - I'm not a programmer

). I have all the usual 060 speedup patches running - haven't tried it without.

I don't know how all the effects compare to an 040 machine, but on mine all the cool lighting effects the game does look really smooth and fast now irrespective of the overall frame rate.

Whatever, its a lot better now than when it first came out!

alexh · 07 April 2011, 15:03

Shame the RTG patch of this game is not more stable.

johnz · 07 April 2011, 16:07

on my 1240 the game runs well in standard size

vulture · 20 April 2011, 13:20

what alexh said, any chance we get a more stable rtg release (pretty please)?

apex · 23 June 2011, 13:02

Hello Psygore,
first I have to say thank you!

But I have to report a problem also. In fullscreen mode I have here this 16 pixl bug, gaming screen is not centered. Will this be fixed?

Psygore · 26 June 2011, 14:18

chipmem address (game area) must be longword aligned to get maximum write speed
so there is a 16 pxl shift.
I didn't tried the rtg version atm...

apex · 28 June 2011, 13:29

This mean no chance for AGA version but RTG version may work?

alexh · 28 June 2011, 14:59

It means use the original which is slower, or live with the 16-pixel shift and enjoy the faster speed.

corpsicle · 30 August 2011, 22:19

Tried this on my aca 1230/56 and i get about 6 fps in windowed ( standard ) size and 2x1 pixels ( floors and ceiling go wonky with 2x2 or 1x2 pixels ).
Compared to the old c2p where i get 5 fps.
Maybe there are things i could do to improve the performance ?

Darksun777 · 29 March 2015, 12:44

Quote:

Originally Posted by Psygore

chipmem address (game area) must be longword aligned to get maximum write speed
so there is a 16 pxl shift.
I didn't tried the rtg version atm...

Picking up this old thread - is there any Chance, this would get fixed?

I love the speed of the slave, with a centered Screen it would be perfect.

Thanks for your awesome work, the game rocks and it is really playable with this slave

Dwyloc · 29 March 2015, 14:25

Quote:

Originally Posted by Darksun777

Picking up this old thread - is there any Chance, this would get fixed?

I love the speed of the slave, with a centered Screen it would be perfect.

Thanks for your awesome work, the game rocks and it is really playable with this slave

It is fixed

the screen of set from central is part of how the speed up is achieved.

At least that's what I understand from discussions back at the time the original speed up patch was released. And I remember the speed up making the game much more playable on my blizzard 060 system at the time.

paul1981 · 14 July 2015, 12:57

Could an overscan / screen position adjustment get around the problem? In conjunction with a repositioning of the static background image?

Amigajay · 18 August 2018, 10:58

Want to run this on FastRAM equpped CD32's, i know its pushing it and i had it on the Team 17 collection a couple of years ago.

The 4mb slave opens the game in 1x1 res with textured floors and ceilings and is too slow for the old 020 even with FastRAM.

The 2mb slave opens the game in i presume 2x2 with shaded floors and ceilings and runs pretty good for a stock CD32.

Now trying even the 2mb slave with FastRAM on Winuae gives no noticeable difference, is the game locked at a certain fps? I did run it with 040 to see and its smoother but no faster moving around so looks to me as it is.

Is there a way or could someone update the 4mb slave to run in 2x2 instead of 1x1?

redblade · 19 August 2018, 05:13

youtube.com video anyone??

amigoun · 19 August 2018, 13:24

Unfortunately there is one nasty bug with the turbopatch and fast cpu. The grenades - when thrown they freeze after short time and after short time explode. This means they can not be throuwn much far, making good tactics impossible.

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01 April 2011, 23:01	#41
daxb Registered User Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Germany Posts: 3,303	Hmm... I get up to 13 FPS and 9 FPS (full screen) on my 040/40 32MB system. It is 030 optimized or only with the new 030 accelrator boards possible?

02 April 2011, 09:52	#43
Ebster Registered User Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Frankfurt / Germany Age: 48 Posts: 313	ha ha GREAT!! there were so many in my local C=64 forum yesterday - i did not believe one... this one i took for real. thanks again!

06 April 2011, 18:05	#45
johnz Registered User Join Date: Feb 2011 Location: FR Posts: 34	it would be cool to whdload the expansion of alien breed 3d2 with many new levels and monster

07 April 2011, 15:03	#47
alexh Thalion Webshrine Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Oxford Posts: 14,336	Shame the RTG patch of this game is not more stable.

07 April 2011, 16:07	#48
johnz Registered User Join Date: Feb 2011 Location: FR Posts: 34	on my 1240 the game runs well in standard size

20 April 2011, 13:20	#49
vulture Registered User Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Athens , Greece Posts: 1,840	what alexh said, any chance we get a more stable rtg release (pretty please)?

26 June 2011, 14:18	#51
Psygore Moderator Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: France Posts: 491	chipmem address (game area) must be longword aligned to get maximum write speed so there is a 16 pxl shift. I didn't tried the rtg version atm...

28 June 2011, 13:29	#52
apex Registered User Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: Amigaplanet Posts: 645	This mean no chance for AGA version but RTG version may work?

28 June 2011, 14:59	#53
alexh Thalion Webshrine Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Oxford Posts: 14,336	It means use the original which is slower, or live with the 16-pixel shift and enjoy the faster speed.

30 August 2011, 22:19	#54
corpsicle Registered User Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Stockholm / Sweden Posts: 59	Tried this on my aca 1230/56 and i get about 6 fps in windowed ( standard ) size and 2x1 pixels ( floors and ceiling go wonky with 2x2 or 1x2 pixels ). Compared to the old c2p where i get 5 fps. Maybe there are things i could do to improve the performance ?

14 July 2015, 12:57	#57
paul1981 Registered User Join Date: Oct 2013 Location: England Posts: 419	Could an overscan / screen position adjustment get around the problem? In conjunction with a repositioning of the static background image?

18 August 2018, 10:58	#58
Amigajay Registered User Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: > Posts: 2,881	Want to run this on FastRAM equpped CD32's, i know its pushing it and i had it on the Team 17 collection a couple of years ago. The 4mb slave opens the game in 1x1 res with textured floors and ceilings and is too slow for the old 020 even with FastRAM. The 2mb slave opens the game in i presume 2x2 with shaded floors and ceilings and runs pretty good for a stock CD32. Now trying even the 2mb slave with FastRAM on Winuae gives no noticeable difference, is the game locked at a certain fps? I did run it with 040 to see and its smoother but no faster moving around so looks to me as it is. Is there a way or could someone update the 4mb slave to run in 2x2 instead of 1x1?

19 August 2018, 05:13	#59
redblade Zone Friend Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Middle Earth Age: 40 Posts: 2,127	youtube.com video anyone??

19 August 2018, 13:24	#60
amigoun Registered User Join Date: May 2010 Location: Czech Rep Posts: 599	Unfortunately there is one nasty bug with the turbopatch and fast cpu. The grenades - when thrown they freeze after short time and after short time explode. This means they can not be throuwn much far, making good tactics impossible.

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