Unpublished Ocean France Amiga games - Page 2

jmmijo · 22 August 2002, 09:36

I think the scroller should include *all* EAB members

RCK · 08 September 2002, 18:57

Message for David sent

jmmijo · 08 September 2002, 20:18

Thanks RCK

RCK · 08 September 2002, 22:31

Quote:

Originally posted by 7-Zark-7
Although I've mentioned it before,years ago I recall seeing a magazine preview in CU Amiga,(I think),previewing the amiga version of Snow Bros.,& how it was being done by Ocean France

Pierre Adane has just replied to my mail

The game (snow bros) was finalized (master version), but never published,
he will try to find back his old Amiga disk !

Amiga1992 · 08 September 2002, 22:38

HOLY FUCK!

MON DIEUX!!!!!

TRÉS JOLLIE RCK!

DDDDDDDDDDD

Antiriad · 08 September 2002, 23:03

Ooooooooooh tres jolie!

C'est bien ca!

Now if only we could get Putty Squad the same way

Drake1009 · 08 September 2002, 23:06

Hey we got responses for Putty squad as well, but that didn't mean we got it anyway. Could be just the same for Snow bros. I honestly didn't think they were even converting it at all in the beginning.

Amiga1992 · 08 September 2002, 23:13

Let's be positive!

The EAB crew can make it happen!!!!!

Allors enfants de la EAB!!!
Le jour de gloire est arrive!!!!!!!

7-Zark-7 · 09 September 2002, 04:03

Quote:

Originally posted by RCK
Pierre Adane has just replied to my mail
The game (snow bros) was finalized (master version), but never published,
he will try to find back his old Amiga disk !

WOW!!
There's a shocker-fantastic job RCK!!

Well,fingers crossed he can find the old disk,& that it still works.
Does make you wonder though,if it was actually finished,why the heck did Ocean never released it?!
It's not like they didn't release some utter crap like T2,so why hold out what was hopefully something as playable as that?
Typical publishers!

Twistin'Ghost · 09 September 2002, 04:26

Well, lots of finished games never got published because even after development, a game has to be packaged and promoted. This is expensive and if a publisher thinks they won't get their money back, they cut their losses.

Cheers, RCK! Been holding my breath for this game for so long...I really hope this materializes!

Antiriad · 09 September 2002, 15:53

Is there an old EAB thread that contains this attempt at System 3s lamented unreleased classic? Or can anyone resupply said information here?

fiath · 09 September 2002, 16:12

Quote:

Originally posted by RCK
Pierre Adane has just replied to my mail
The game (snow bros) was finalized (master version), but never published,
he will try to find back his old Amiga disk !

If it is copy protected.... Who you gonna call?

Dah dah DAH dah dah dah, dunna dunna duh duh....

jmmijo · 09 September 2002, 16:41

Quote:

Originally posted by fiath

If it is copy protected.... Who you gonna call?

Dah dah DAH dah dah dah, dunna dunna duh duh....

If there's something strange, on that floppy disk.

Who ya gonna call?!?

CAPSbusters

Amiga1992 · 09 September 2002, 18:04

Quote:

Originally posted by fiath

If it is copy protected.... Who you gonna call?

Codetapper!

:P

I doubt it is, it's his master disk!

fiath · 10 September 2002, 11:17

Actually - if there is copy protection on the finished game - it should be on the master disk too. This is why it is called a "master" disk - because it is just that. The master copy - where the rest come from.

Trace machines in particular read the "master disk" on initialisation (also using a description file written in the "Freeform" disk format description language) to build up the internal "image" or represenation of the disk. This is then spat out at the floppy drives, written as per the instructions in the disk description file.

</useless info>

However, I guess the disk may not be the "final" "gold" master, but if the game was written with copy protection in mind from the start (as they should, but most didn't I guess) - all master disks should have it.

But either way - I guess both parties will get the job done, just one quicker than the other obviously (codetapper)

.

Later in the game (when some releases are out) releasing an image of a disk with a known disk format (95% are known now of 1000's of disks) takes 2 clicks of the mouse... (apart from testing obviously, but that is only a final check - just in case)

But even if no copy protection - if you want low-level verification that the disk is okay and has not got corrupted after all these years, then we still have a use!

fiath · 10 September 2002, 11:19

Quote:

Originally posted by jmmijo

If there's something strange, on that floppy disk.

Who ya gonna call?!?

CAPSbusters

LOL

I wish I thought of that...

kriz · 10 September 2002, 11:57

wow this is good, hope well see something of this game ... any screenshots (scans from mags) or anything ?

Amiga1992 · 10 September 2002, 18:40

If I boot up Snow Bros in my Amiga I will pish my pants, I can assure!

gunatm · 11 September 2002, 12:24

Wow ... I´m looking forward to this game. Great job!

Bernd · 12 September 2002, 19:39

Funny, you are already discussing the games protection although it is not yet available

Before I forget it: There was another unpublished Ocean France game called
Liquid Kid. It is probably also from Adane. So, RCK, if you get in a talk
with Pierre you should please ask him also regarding this title and the existance of
other unreleased games.
It would also be useful to get information of Pierre-Eric Loriauxs music
format and packer who composed the music for both games. This is a
request by Don Adan (author of lots of Eagle Players replayers).
You all should not forget that it was him who provided the essential information regarding
Pierre Adane and his current company!! I just forwarded it and posted it here.

Quote:

any screenshots (scans from mags) or anything

There used to be a Snow Brothers screenshot in "The One", but it was rather small and
maybe even the arcade version. If you play that arcade version you can easily
get an impression of that title (maybe Mame). There are not any known screenshots
of the Teddy and Liquid games.

10 September 2002, 11:17	#35
fiath Moderator Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: South East / UK Age: 46 Posts: 1,930	Actually - if there is copy protection on the finished game - it should be on the master disk too. This is why it is called a "master" disk - because it is just that. The master copy - where the rest come from. Trace machines in particular read the "master disk" on initialisation (also using a description file written in the "Freeform" disk format description language) to build up the internal "image" or represenation of the disk. This is then spat out at the floppy drives, written as per the instructions in the disk description file. </useless info> However, I guess the disk may not be the "final" "gold" master, but if the game was written with copy protection in mind from the start (as they should, but most didn't I guess) - all master disks should have it. But either way - I guess both parties will get the job done, just one quicker than the other obviously (codetapper) . Later in the game (when some releases are out) releasing an image of a disk with a known disk format (95% are known now of 1000's of disks) takes 2 clicks of the mouse... (apart from testing obviously, but that is only a final check - just in case) But even if no copy protection - if you want low-level verification that the disk is okay and has not got corrupted after all these years, then we still have a use! Last edited by fiath; 10 September 2002 at 11:25.

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22 August 2002, 09:36	#21
jmmijo Junior Member Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: PDX Age: 62 Posts: 2,396	I think the scroller should include all EAB members

08 September 2002, 18:57	#22
RCK Administrator Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: Paris / France Age: 45 Posts: 3,091	Message for David sent

08 September 2002, 20:18	#23
jmmijo Junior Member Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: PDX Age: 62 Posts: 2,396	Thanks RCK

08 September 2002, 22:38	#25
Amiga1992 Registered User Join Date: May 2001 Location: ? Posts: 19,645	HOLY FUCK! MON DIEUX!!!!! TRÉS JOLLIE RCK! DDDDDDDDDDD

08 September 2002, 23:03	#26
Antiriad The Sacred Armour Of Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Sussex, UK Age: 45 Posts: 1,141	Ooooooooooh tres jolie! C'est bien ca! Now if only we could get Putty Squad the same way

08 September 2002, 23:06	#27
Drake1009 Registered User Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Denmark Posts: 2,284	Hey we got responses for Putty squad as well, but that didn't mean we got it anyway. Could be just the same for Snow bros. I honestly didn't think they were even converting it at all in the beginning.

08 September 2002, 23:13	#28
Amiga1992 Registered User Join Date: May 2001 Location: ? Posts: 19,645	Let's be positive! The EAB crew can make it happen!!!!! Allors enfants de la EAB!!! Le jour de gloire est arrive!!!!!!!

09 September 2002, 04:26	#30
Twistin'Ghost Give up the ghost Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: U$A Age: 33 Posts: 4,662	Well, lots of finished games never got published because even after development, a game has to be packaged and promoted. This is expensive and if a publisher thinks they won't get their money back, they cut their losses. Cheers, RCK! Been holding my breath for this game for so long...I really hope this materializes!

09 September 2002, 15:53	#31
Antiriad The Sacred Armour Of Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Sussex, UK Age: 45 Posts: 1,141	Is there an old EAB thread that contains this attempt at System 3s lamented unreleased classic? Or can anyone resupply said information here?

10 September 2002, 11:57	#37
kriz Junior Member Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: No(R)Way Age: 41 Posts: 3,200	wow this is good, hope well see something of this game ... any screenshots (scans from mags) or anything ?

10 September 2002, 18:40	#38
Amiga1992 Registered User Join Date: May 2001 Location: ? Posts: 19,645	If I boot up Snow Bros in my Amiga I will pish my pants, I can assure!

11 September 2002, 12:24	#39
gunatm Retronerd Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Hamburg (Germany) Age: 49 Posts: 88	Wow ... I´m looking forward to this game. Great job!

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