Expansion board for the CD32 - Page 97

supaduper · 26 September 2017, 17:11

Quote:

Originally Posted by Akira

Yes I read, and I'm not in any rush. I just reported what I discovered as soon as I discovered it.

It was just serendipitious that I turned on the CD32 without an IDE device at all. I could have not noticed forever if I had not decided I wanted to backup and redo the CF card.

plasmab: Gonna make a github bug in a moment with the info I put here. i don't really have anything else to add. Other people's tests would be the best way to debunk what happens on my system (or not)

Yes your right
I just tried alfred chicken from your Uploads and

with Samsung ram -- CF in -no Boot, CF out- No Boot, TF328 out it boots ( same Problem as Akira).

With ISSI Ram -- CF in -BOOT, CF out-- BOOT

What do you think Steve ? Obviously your Spec`d ISSI on the board no problem.
So there is so sort of conflict with the other types of ram.

plasmab · 26 September 2017, 17:20

Quote:

Originally Posted by supaduper

Yes your right

I just tried alfred chicken from your Uploads and

with Samsung ram -- CF in -no Boot, CF out- No Boot, TF328 out it boots ( same Problem as Akira).

With ISSI Ram -- CF in -BOOT, CF out-- BOOT

What do you think Steve ? Obviously your Spec`d ISSI on the board no problem.

So there is so sort of conflict with the other types of ram.

Weird. In theory these are the same!!

Will test. Annoyingly I sold my Samsung board. But I have a HY board I could play with

alenppc · 26 September 2017, 17:21

Akira, try removing that NMI jumper, I don't think it's necessary. I wonder if anything changes.

solidcore · 26 September 2017, 17:35

I couldn't get Simon the saucerer cd32 cd to run with ISSI ram with cf in or out . cf in black screen and sound . Cf out loss of signal tv

@mark try Simon saucerer out mate thanks

Other games I tried worked fine amigajay psygnosis and lemmings planetside.

plasmab · 26 September 2017, 17:35

Quote:

Originally Posted by alenppc

Akira, try removing that NMI jumper, I don't think it's necessary. I wonder if anything changes.

The NMI is wired up to two pins on the muxcpld... its pretty harmless.

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Amiga1992 · 26 September 2017, 17:51

Quote:

Originally Posted by supaduper

Yes your right
I just tried alfred chicken from your Uploads and

with Samsung ram -- CF in -no Boot, CF out- No Boot, TF328 out it boots ( same Problem as Akira)..

Nope, that's not my problem at all. I don't need to remove the TF328 at all, just IDE. Take a good read at what I described before and the github bug. Also if you have a Samsung RAM, it's not the same board as mine, so teh test situation has changed.

Weird that Alfred Chicken would not work at all with your board though.
That game runs fine in my system with the TF328 plugged in, as long as it has an IDE device on it. When no IDE, it does boot, just has graphic corruption.

IS it of any use if I do a livestream going through these games with the TF328 with and without IDE?

supaduper · 26 September 2017, 19:12

Steve samsung ram sorted was wrong firmware, I flashed it with firmware : tf328_ram_rev1_14_9_2017, and thats fine CD`s boot with cf installed

So to reiterate Samsung ram is fine

So its just the Hynix

Thanks Akira for noticing that fault and its another test we can do

, just got to sort your hynix sorted out now

plasmab · 26 September 2017, 19:19

Quote:

Originally Posted by supaduper

Steve samsung ram sorted was wrong firmware, I flashed it with firmware : tf328_ram_rev1_14_9_2017, and thats fine CD`s boot with cf installed

So to reiterate Samsung ram is fine

So its just the Hynix

Thanks Akira for noticing that fault , just got to sort your hynix out now

Am about to burn the chicken..

But as I cannot get Hynix RAM to work at all i'm not confident.

plasmab · 26 September 2017, 19:26

Quote:

Originally Posted by Akira

IS it of any use if I do a livestream going through these games with the TF328 with and without IDE?

At some point. I'm going to get lynched if I don't build the TF534S soon

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solidcore · 26 September 2017, 19:29

@plasmab any chance you can tell us where the timing value is in the firmware as we the community can offload some of your time on the tf328, if it's something simple like timings.

Thanks
Chris.

plasmab · 26 September 2017, 19:31

Its not a value. Is about moving things from this edge to that edge etc.

You need to sit and stare at timing diagrams unfortunately.

plasmab · 26 September 2017, 19:45

OK i just ran Alfred chicken with no IDE. No issues. Sorry. ISSI ram here.

Doesnt work with my Hynix board but its really unstable anyway

kipper2k · 26 September 2017, 19:46

i just built another hynix board, wouldnt work to start with, then i cleaned off the edge connector, slammed it back in and it worksd

supaduper · 26 September 2017, 19:48

Quote:

Originally Posted by kipper2k

i just built another hynix board, wouldnt work to start with, then i cleaned off the edge connector, slammed it back in and it worksd

Does it load CD32 disks with the Cf in Brian ?

alenppc · 26 September 2017, 19:48

Kipper, can you confirm Akira's issues which occur without IDE connected on hynix ram?

kipper2k · 26 September 2017, 19:49

Quote:

Originally Posted by supaduper

Does it load CD32 disks with the Cf in Brian ?

I will give it a shot.. gimme 15 mins.

k, mine boots from CF card...
shut down and restart with CD in and cd32 boots from CD

(CF card still in)

Tried the turrican mix cd and 100game mix CD.
just to confirm, this is hynix hy5118160b

When i lift the CD lid and do a soft reboot, the CF will load once again

Also, when i boot from CF card, put in CD and close the lid the icon for the CD will appear so there is no problem recognising the device
.

The biggest problem i have had bresides bad traces is the connectors seem to be greasy, even the new ones and i need to clean them once i finished with a good little scrubbing

plasmab · 26 September 2017, 19:50

Quote:

Originally Posted by kipper2k

I will give it a shot.. gimme 15 mins

Maybe i have a bad joint. Anyone able to make up a systest boot cd?

S

Amiga1992 · 26 September 2017, 19:56

The main reason I always wanted an IDE for the CD32, is because making your own discs for the CD32 is a ROYAL pain in the ass. Nobody has made a PC tool that can build them so you rely on shitty old Amiga dev tools to make discs.

I'm gonna try to look at a tutorial and see if I can build a disc with systest. Where do I get systest from?

[edit] is it Keir's systest? https://github.com/keirf/Amiga-Stuff...master/systest

alenppc · 26 September 2017, 20:02

Akira, SysTest is available here: https://github.com/keirf/Amiga-Stuff...master/systest

I never understood how to make a bootable CD for the CD32, it seems to require some commodore dev tools which don't seem to be readily available...

plasmab · 26 September 2017, 20:07

Quote:

Originally Posted by alenppc

Akira, SysTest is available here: https://github.com/keirf/Amiga-Stuff...master/systest

I never understood how to make a bootable CD for the CD32, it seems to require some commodore dev tools which don't seem to be readily available...

A systest iso is the only way i can check RAM with a CF card out. Other than DiagROM.

26 September 2017, 19:12	#1927
supaduper Registered User Join Date: Oct 2012 Location: Krypton Posts: 1,210	Steve samsung ram sorted was wrong firmware, I flashed it with firmware : tf328_ram_rev1_14_9_2017, and thats fine CD`s boot with cf installed So to reiterate Samsung ram is fine So its just the Hynix Thanks Akira for noticing that fault and its another test we can do , just got to sort your hynix sorted out now Last edited by supaduper; 26 September 2017 at 19:42.

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26 September 2017, 17:21	#1923
alenppc Registered User Join Date: Apr 2012 Location: Canada Age: 44 Posts: 910	Akira, try removing that NMI jumper, I don't think it's necessary. I wonder if anything changes.

26 September 2017, 17:35	#1924
solidcore Registered User Join Date: Sep 2017 Location: birmingham, uk Posts: 548	I couldn't get Simon the saucerer cd32 cd to run with ISSI ram with cf in or out . cf in black screen and sound . Cf out loss of signal tv @mark try Simon saucerer out mate thanks Other games I tried worked fine amigajay psygnosis and lemmings planetside.

26 September 2017, 19:29	#1930
solidcore Registered User Join Date: Sep 2017 Location: birmingham, uk Posts: 548	@plasmab any chance you can tell us where the timing value is in the firmware as we the community can offload some of your time on the tf328, if it's something simple like timings. Thanks Chris.

26 September 2017, 19:31	#1931
plasmab Banned Join Date: Sep 2016 Location: UK Posts: 2,917	Its not a value. Is about moving things from this edge to that edge etc. You need to sit and stare at timing diagrams unfortunately.

26 September 2017, 19:45	#1932
plasmab Banned Join Date: Sep 2016 Location: UK Posts: 2,917	OK i just ran Alfred chicken with no IDE. No issues. Sorry. ISSI ram here. Doesnt work with my Hynix board but its really unstable anyway

26 September 2017, 19:46	#1933
kipper2k Registered User Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Thunder Bay, Canada Posts: 4,323	i just built another hynix board, wouldnt work to start with, then i cleaned off the edge connector, slammed it back in and it worksd

26 September 2017, 19:48	#1935
alenppc Registered User Join Date: Apr 2012 Location: Canada Age: 44 Posts: 910	Kipper, can you confirm Akira's issues which occur without IDE connected on hynix ram?

26 September 2017, 19:56	#1938
Amiga1992 Registered User Join Date: May 2001 Location: ? Posts: 19,645	The main reason I always wanted an IDE for the CD32, is because making your own discs for the CD32 is a ROYAL pain in the ass. Nobody has made a PC tool that can build them so you rely on shitty old Amiga dev tools to make discs. I'm gonna try to look at a tutorial and see if I can build a disc with systest. Where do I get systest from? [edit] is it Keir's systest? https://github.com/keirf/Amiga-Stuff...master/systest

26 September 2017, 20:02	#1939
alenppc Registered User Join Date: Apr 2012 Location: Canada Age: 44 Posts: 910	Akira, SysTest is available here: https://github.com/keirf/Amiga-Stuff...master/systest I never understood how to make a bootable CD for the CD32, it seems to require some commodore dev tools which don't seem to be readily available...

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