HD size limitation?

gizmomelb · 01 August 2006, 06:03

Hi Toni, Synchro has noted that both WinUAE and WinUAEX can only see 1GB HDD images (because the issue exists in both I'm guessing it's a shared code issue).

Toni Wilen · 01 August 2006, 08:15

Quote:

Originally Posted by gizmomelb

Hi Toni, Synchro has noted that both WinUAE and WinUAEX can only see 1GB HDD images (because the issue exists in both I'm guessing it's a shared code issue).

There is no HD size limitation (except possible Amiga-side software limits or FAT32 limit etc..)

2G - 1 byte = Windows98SE/ME max
4G - 1 byte = Windows2000/XP + FAT32
"unlimited" = NTFS

Not sure about XBox but I think XBox HD filesystem has also ~2G limit.

EDIT: moved because nothing 1.3 specific here..

z00mba · 02 August 2006, 01:33

XBox HD file system (FATX) support partition up to 256Gb.

gizmomelb · 02 August 2006, 04:18

Hi Toni,

original issue reported by Syncro is here (in regards to his WHDload TRIBUTE DVD), he's probably the best person to spwak with about this, I'm only reporting the error he experienced as no one else seems to have done so:

http://eab.abime.net/showpost.php?p=256906&postcount=5

"I have 4 odd gig to play with......If i include all the whd games and the Demos that are on the tribute disk it still comes to just under 3 gig .....But how to do it is the question.....Ideally i wanted one workbench.hdf with everything on it but both winuae and winuaex only see 1 gig

So do i make 3 workbench hdf's (games A-H) and ( games i-z ) and ( Demos) ???
Or one empty workbench so people can attach seperate HDF'S ...ie (games a-h.hdf ) etc as a second drive.......Or just directories for people to attach ???

Theres quite a few ways to do it but whats the easiest do you think for people to use ??? Either way looks like the games and demos and a lot of other stuff should fit well on this one

Help me out here guys .....im getting confused"

Toni Wilen · 02 August 2006, 07:13

Quote:

Originally Posted by z00mba

XBox HD file system (FATX) support partition up to 256Gb.

Max partition size != max supported file size.

thomas · 02 August 2006, 09:58

I've got a 10 GB HDF and it works without problems in WinUAE.

I remember a problem with 1GB HDFs quite a while ago, though, but the problem was that WinUAE could *not* see the 1GB HDF. It saw a 1023 MB HDF and a 1025 MB HDF, but not a 1024 MB HDF.

Regarding your question, I'd always use directories if possible. Use HDFs only for those programs which need it for compatibility.

Toni Wilen · 07 August 2006, 15:53

1500M regular hardfile works fine here.

Does it work if you increase "surfaces"-parameter in HDF settings? Try for example 16 instead of default 1. (Maybe >65535 cylinders are not supported by all AmigaOS versions)

Anubis · 07 August 2006, 16:06

I just tried many different things in last couple of days with HDFs.

1. Problem of 1024MB HDF (1GB) is still there in 1.3.1. Same thing happens with increments, so 2048, 3072 and 4096 will not been seen inside WB either.

2. Any HDF created that is greater then 1024 is seen (and formated) by WB as 1GB (~1007MB). 1023MB HDF is seen as it's real size (1022MB free space and ~250KB used)

I'm using ClassicWB P96 latest version with KS 3.1 (A1200 and A4000) both recognized by WinUAE.

I've also tried to format larger HD in AIAB and regular Workbench 3.1 and still got the same results.

Same errors exist in WinUAE 1.1 and 1.2.

Toni, can you zip that HDF and post it in the zone?

Thanks!

Anubis · 07 August 2006, 16:40

I just changed surface to 4 and both problems have disappeared!

Thanks Toni for great support!!!

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01 August 2006, 06:03	#1
gizmomelb Registered User Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: melbourne Age: 55 Posts: 541	Hi Toni, Synchro has noted that both WinUAE and WinUAEX can only see 1GB HDD images (because the issue exists in both I'm guessing it's a shared code issue).

02 August 2006, 01:33	#3
z00mba Registered User Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Fr Age: 47 Posts: 185	XBox HD file system (FATX) support partition up to 256Gb.

02 August 2006, 04:18	#4
gizmomelb Registered User Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: melbourne Age: 55 Posts: 541	Hi Toni, original issue reported by Syncro is here (in regards to his WHDload TRIBUTE DVD), he's probably the best person to spwak with about this, I'm only reporting the error he experienced as no one else seems to have done so: http://eab.abime.net/showpost.php?p=256906&postcount=5 "I have 4 odd gig to play with......If i include all the whd games and the Demos that are on the tribute disk it still comes to just under 3 gig .....But how to do it is the question.....Ideally i wanted one workbench.hdf with everything on it but both winuae and winuaex only see 1 gig So do i make 3 workbench hdf's (games A-H) and ( games i-z ) and ( Demos) ??? Or one empty workbench so people can attach seperate HDF'S ...ie (games a-h.hdf ) etc as a second drive.......Or just directories for people to attach ??? Theres quite a few ways to do it but whats the easiest do you think for people to use ??? Either way looks like the games and demos and a lot of other stuff should fit well on this one Help me out here guys .....im getting confused"

02 August 2006, 09:58	#6
thomas Registered User Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Germany Posts: 7,005	I've got a 10 GB HDF and it works without problems in WinUAE. I remember a problem with 1GB HDFs quite a while ago, though, but the problem was that WinUAE could not see the 1GB HDF. It saw a 1023 MB HDF and a 1025 MB HDF, but not a 1024 MB HDF. Regarding your question, I'd always use directories if possible. Use HDFs only for those programs which need it for compatibility.

07 August 2006, 15:53	#7
Toni Wilen WinUAE developer Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Hämeenlinna/Finland Age: 49 Posts: 26,534	1500M regular hardfile works fine here. Does it work if you increase "surfaces"-parameter in HDF settings? Try for example 16 instead of default 1. (Maybe >65535 cylinders are not supported by all AmigaOS versions)

07 August 2006, 16:06	#8
Anubis Retro Gamer Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Underworld Age: 51 Posts: 4,065	I just tried many different things in last couple of days with HDFs. 1. Problem of 1024MB HDF (1GB) is still there in 1.3.1. Same thing happens with increments, so 2048, 3072 and 4096 will not been seen inside WB either. 2. Any HDF created that is greater then 1024 is seen (and formated) by WB as 1GB (~1007MB). 1023MB HDF is seen as it's real size (1022MB free space and ~250KB used) I'm using ClassicWB P96 latest version with KS 3.1 (A1200 and A4000) both recognized by WinUAE. I've also tried to format larger HD in AIAB and regular Workbench 3.1 and still got the same results. Same errors exist in WinUAE 1.1 and 1.2. Toni, can you zip that HDF and post it in the zone? Thanks!

07 August 2006, 16:40	#9
Anubis Retro Gamer Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Underworld Age: 51 Posts: 4,065	I just changed surface to 4 and both problems have disappeared! Thanks Toni for great support!!!

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