Using MP3's to load 8bit Games! - Page 3

Antiriad · 09 October 2003, 22:24

right then. finally got the damn adaptor. turned a c64 tap into a wav and had it coming out of my amp at full blast and got nowt

Methinks that whole C64 arsecrap of starting and stopping is most likely to blame also.

So a no go

Guess one day ill buy a 1541 but i really cant be arsed

Mozzy · 09 October 2003, 22:27

i have no problem playing it from my pc through the adapter to the c64s tape dec, faultless loads every time... its just when it comes to burning to cd. for some reason my discman just WONT play data it just cuts in at a random point

works from the pcs soundcard tho and id also assume an mp3 player

ElectroBlaster · 10 October 2003, 00:33

Im still kicking myself since i got rid of a 1541

I picked it up from some house clearance, fully boxed and in mint condition! I never used it as i didnt have a c64!

Im also gutted as I had this kit from Rainbow Arts! it comprised of a cd with c64 games in audio format with a little gadjet that plugged into the tape port! didnt think it was much cop and sold it... only to find out the other day that this thing is ideal for all this mp3/wav lark

Mozzy · 10 October 2003, 13:42

get a 1541 off ebay, they seem to be relatively cheap at the moment i really want a 1541 II cos i have the old style 1541 and a c64c (the newer light coloured one) and they dont match

Antiriad · 10 October 2003, 19:50

so Mozzy, you CAN get this to work then?

Mozzy · 11 October 2003, 14:14

from the pc soundcard yes absolutely every time ive had a perfect load. from the cd its another matter

say this is the cd track

[--------------------------------------------------------------]

when i burn to cd fro some reason itl just play like this

[................................----------------------..................]

where "------------------------" is any random chunk in the data sound and "...." is silence

Antiriad · 11 October 2003, 15:22

And do you use the same type of cassette tape shaped adaptor in a C2N then?

You see I also tried it in my Amstrad 464 and couldnt get it to work either

Am beginning to wonder whether its the conversion software too

Mozzy · 11 October 2003, 16:04

i use a standard cd car kit

to get faultless loads from the pc soundcard you need to save your files as 8bit pcm mono format

to get writable to cd files that load (even though ive only got em to load from the soundcard and not the cd) you need to convert the 8bit pcm to 16bit pcm stereo then delete the left channel

Amiga1992 · 12 October 2003, 20:20

You beast, that's why it wont work. Why are you deleting one channel? And surely the conversion from 8 bit to 16 bit will create some artifacts, time/pitch stretching or something. be careful, I bet there's a way to do it. Will look into it someday.

Mozzy · 13 October 2003, 14:05

converting and deleting the channel isnt what kills it. i can get a perfect load every time from the converted and channel deleted sound file IF i play it through my pcs soundcard, the problem arises when putting it on cd

Antiriad · 13 October 2003, 15:18

In fact both my C64 and CPC WAV files were 8bit Mono too, 352kbps 44Hz, so i dont think this is the problem either.

ElectroBlaster · 13 October 2003, 19:02

@Mozzy

What are you using to master those audio cd's m8?

Amiga1992 · 14 October 2003, 04:13

Probably a problem at the CD writing phase or a problem of your CD player... does it have an outpput loud enough? This shit needs to be loud.

ElectroBlaster · 19 October 2003, 02:38

I want to make an audio cd of some speccy games so should i have the wav's as 8bit mono or 16bit stereo guys?
I had a go at loading a game from an emulator called Spectaculator. via the pc straight into my +3's line in and it seemed to work well enougth!

I need a windows based app that will convert TZX back to wav! anybody know of one?

whiteb · 19 October 2003, 08:24

Quote:

Originally posted by ElectroBlaster
I want to make an audio cd of some speccy games so should i have the wav's as 8bit mono or 16bit stereo guys?
I had a go at loading a game from an emulator called Spectaculator. via the pc straight into my +3's line in and it seemed to work well enougth!

I need a windows based app that will convert TZX back to wav! anybody know of one?

I am not too sure, but maybe the directx version of Realspec will be good for this ?

What about the existing version of Realspec ?

Mozzy · 20 October 2003, 00:04

im using disc jugler

ElectroBlaster · 20 October 2003, 19:04

Boo

im having some problems here

for some reason the wav files i create from Spectaculator wont load right! the game can be loaded from the file but will not work once its finished loading? the virtual speccy resets every single time

i wanted to test the files before they were burnt to cd! i dont understand why it didnt work!

Amiga1992 · 20 October 2003, 20:44

Use Tapper. Worked perfectly for me on my +3

ElectroBlaster · 20 October 2003, 21:11

thats msdos aint it? if it makes working wavs out of tzx's then i will be happy

Amiga1992 · 21 October 2003, 03:11

I think it does output to WAV.

There's also a Winamp plugin that reads tape files methinks

20 October 2003, 19:04	#57
ElectroBlaster Junior Member Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Exeter, Devon, UK Age: 49 Posts: 1,705	Boo im having some problems here for some reason the wav files i create from Spectaculator wont load right! the game can be loaded from the file but will not work once its finished loading? the virtual speccy resets every single time i wanted to test the files before they were burnt to cd! i dont understand why it didnt work! Last edited by ElectroBlaster; 20 October 2003 at 19:10.

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09 October 2003, 22:24	#41
Antiriad The Sacred Armour Of Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Sussex, UK Age: 44 Posts: 1,141	right then. finally got the damn adaptor. turned a c64 tap into a wav and had it coming out of my amp at full blast and got nowt Methinks that whole C64 arsecrap of starting and stopping is most likely to blame also. So a no go Guess one day ill buy a 1541 but i really cant be arsed

09 October 2003, 22:27	#42
Mozzy Registered User Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: England Age: 43 Posts: 82	i have no problem playing it from my pc through the adapter to the c64s tape dec, faultless loads every time... its just when it comes to burning to cd. for some reason my discman just WONT play data it just cuts in at a random point works from the pcs soundcard tho and id also assume an mp3 player

10 October 2003, 00:33	#43
ElectroBlaster Junior Member Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Exeter, Devon, UK Age: 49 Posts: 1,705	Im still kicking myself since i got rid of a 1541 I picked it up from some house clearance, fully boxed and in mint condition! I never used it as i didnt have a c64! Im also gutted as I had this kit from Rainbow Arts! it comprised of a cd with c64 games in audio format with a little gadjet that plugged into the tape port! didnt think it was much cop and sold it... only to find out the other day that this thing is ideal for all this mp3/wav lark

10 October 2003, 13:42	#44
Mozzy Registered User Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: England Age: 43 Posts: 82	get a 1541 off ebay, they seem to be relatively cheap at the moment i really want a 1541 II cos i have the old style 1541 and a c64c (the newer light coloured one) and they dont match

10 October 2003, 19:50	#45
Antiriad The Sacred Armour Of Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Sussex, UK Age: 44 Posts: 1,141	so Mozzy, you CAN get this to work then?

11 October 2003, 14:14	#46
Mozzy Registered User Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: England Age: 43 Posts: 82	from the pc soundcard yes absolutely every time ive had a perfect load. from the cd its another matter say this is the cd track [--------------------------------------------------------------] when i burn to cd fro some reason itl just play like this [................................----------------------..................] where "------------------------" is any random chunk in the data sound and "...." is silence

11 October 2003, 15:22	#47
Antiriad The Sacred Armour Of Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Sussex, UK Age: 44 Posts: 1,141	And do you use the same type of cassette tape shaped adaptor in a C2N then? You see I also tried it in my Amstrad 464 and couldnt get it to work either Am beginning to wonder whether its the conversion software too

11 October 2003, 16:04	#48
Mozzy Registered User Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: England Age: 43 Posts: 82	i use a standard cd car kit to get faultless loads from the pc soundcard you need to save your files as 8bit pcm mono format to get writable to cd files that load (even though ive only got em to load from the soundcard and not the cd) you need to convert the 8bit pcm to 16bit pcm stereo then delete the left channel

12 October 2003, 20:20	#49
Amiga1992 Registered User Join Date: May 2001 Location: ? Posts: 19,644	You beast, that's why it wont work. Why are you deleting one channel? And surely the conversion from 8 bit to 16 bit will create some artifacts, time/pitch stretching or something. be careful, I bet there's a way to do it. Will look into it someday.

13 October 2003, 14:05	#50
Mozzy Registered User Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: England Age: 43 Posts: 82	converting and deleting the channel isnt what kills it. i can get a perfect load every time from the converted and channel deleted sound file IF i play it through my pcs soundcard, the problem arises when putting it on cd

13 October 2003, 15:18	#51
Antiriad The Sacred Armour Of Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Sussex, UK Age: 44 Posts: 1,141	In fact both my C64 and CPC WAV files were 8bit Mono too, 352kbps 44Hz, so i dont think this is the problem either.

13 October 2003, 19:02	#52
ElectroBlaster Junior Member Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Exeter, Devon, UK Age: 49 Posts: 1,705	@Mozzy What are you using to master those audio cd's m8?

14 October 2003, 04:13	#53
Amiga1992 Registered User Join Date: May 2001 Location: ? Posts: 19,644	Probably a problem at the CD writing phase or a problem of your CD player... does it have an outpput loud enough? This shit needs to be loud.

19 October 2003, 02:38	#54
ElectroBlaster Junior Member Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Exeter, Devon, UK Age: 49 Posts: 1,705	I want to make an audio cd of some speccy games so should i have the wav's as 8bit mono or 16bit stereo guys? I had a go at loading a game from an emulator called Spectaculator. via the pc straight into my +3's line in and it seemed to work well enougth! I need a windows based app that will convert TZX back to wav! anybody know of one?

20 October 2003, 00:04	#56
Mozzy Registered User Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: England Age: 43 Posts: 82	im using disc jugler

20 October 2003, 20:44	#58
Amiga1992 Registered User Join Date: May 2001 Location: ? Posts: 19,644	Use Tapper. Worked perfectly for me on my +3

20 October 2003, 21:11	#59
ElectroBlaster Junior Member Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Exeter, Devon, UK Age: 49 Posts: 1,705	thats msdos aint it? if it makes working wavs out of tzx's then i will be happy

21 October 2003, 03:11	#60
Amiga1992 Registered User Join Date: May 2001 Location: ? Posts: 19,644	I think it does output to WAV. There's also a Winamp plugin that reads tape files methinks

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