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Old 19 November 2006, 15:39   #1
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Amiga Discs not in Tosec

Back in the day i had a 5000+ Amiga disc collection. Since the move to PC and relegation of the Amiga to the wardrobe, i've since collected Tosec sets to replace my discs. Isn't WinUAE lovely

As the Tosec has grown, i've split my disc collection into 2 parts. Those that are now in the Tosec and those that aren't.

About 1 year back i gave away 98% of my old disc collection to some lucky young kid (yes, i GAVE them all away) but i am still left with around 50 discs that are still not in a TOSEC.

What should i do ??

I could provide a list of what i have. I could transfer them (if i knew how) and provide for inclusion. I do have a working Amiga1200 with CDRom drive (not a writer), 030 accelerator, a bit of extra mem and 400mb harddrive.

I'll prepare a list. I guess thats a good first step, then you guys can advise me on what to do.
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Old 19 November 2006, 16:22   #2
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The coverdisks
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CU Amiga - 113 - Clarissa 2.0
CU Amiga - 136 - XiPaint
CU Amiga - 142 - Upper Disk Tools
CU Amiga - 143 - Mikro Mortal Tennis

Amiga Format - 78a - Snap Maps
Amiga Format - 78b - Blitz Bombers
Amiga Format - 83a - Scape Maker
Amiga Format - 84a - Game Engine

Amiga Computing - October 1994 - 3D Textures
Amiga Computing - February 1995 - Anim Workshop
Amiga Computing - January 1997 - Utilities Unleashed
Amiga Computing - March 1997 - Tool-Ey Unbelievable

Amiga Action - Christmas 1995 - Disk 2 - The Winning Post
Amiga Action - May 1996 - Disk 1 - Charlie Chimp Remix
Amiga Action - May 1996 - Disk 2 - Saturday Night Snooker
Amiga Action - May 1996 - Disk 3 - Munch

The dodgy stuff
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Logic's Book Of Forbidden Knowledge - Adult only
Jolly Roger's Cookbook - Adult only
Stag - Buk Stag 1-7 - Adult only
The Fuxkstones - Adult only

The demos
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X.T.C. Rave Demo
Digital Force Music Selector
Silents Demo - Expose - Disk 1
Silents Demo - Expose - Disk 2
Lemmin's Revenge Anim by Roddy McMillan - Disk 1
Lemmin's Revenge Anim by Roddy McMillan - Disk 2
Genesis Music Demo - CD Player
Computer World Demo - The Dinosaur Compi
Focused on Art - Anarchy and Vision Slideshow
Devil Star - Virtual Dreams - AGA - Polka Brothers Demo
Fanatix Megademo 8 - Amos Demos - Disk 1
Fanatix Megademo 8 - Amos Demos - Disk 2
L.S.D. Simply The Best No. 1
L.S.D. Simply The Best No. 2
L.S.D. Simply The Best No. 3
L.S.D. Simply The Best No. 4
L.S.D. Simply The Best No. 5
L.S.D. Simply The Best No. 6
L.S.D. Simply The Best No. 7
L.S.D. Simply The Best No. 8
L.S.D. Simply The Best No. 9
L.S.D. Simply The Best No. 10
L.S.D. Simply The Best No. 11
L.S.D. Simply The Best No. 37

The games
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Imbrium
Moria v5.4
Pacman Worlds
Pinball Dreams - Unreleased Table
Pump Up The Volume
Quest For Galaxia
Schelober's Quest For A Babe - Disk 1
Schelober's Quest For A Babe - Disk 2
Schelober's Quest For A Babe - Disk 3
Schelober's Quest For A Babe - Disk 4
Gravity Power + Level Editor
Amiopoly
Billy The Burglar
Bratwurst AGA
Colossal Cave Adventure
Zut Alors 1 + 2 + Pool500

Feel free to correct me on any of these. Either their proper name, wether they are actually in a Tosec. Any of you keen to get your mitts on these ? And whats the best way to transfer to adf and onto the interwebb ??

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Old 19 November 2006, 16:42   #3
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Hello hitm4n,

This sounds very interesting

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Pinball Dreams - Unreleased Table
What theme is the table?
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Old 19 November 2006, 18:51   #4
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When i said "onto the interwebb" i meant get it to the tosec team. I've contacted some Tosec people in the past and got 0 reply. Don't they want people to help them ????
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Old 19 November 2006, 18:54   #5
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Pinball dreams table is an oddity. After receiving this i've never heard mention of it anywhere. I think its an alternative version of the Ignition table or maybe stones and bones ? Honestly i can't rememeber and the 1200's packed away. I do know its just like the other dreams tables, works, and is a single standalone table.
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Old 19 November 2006, 19:32   #6
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Well, its not gonna be so easy for me. My mobo won't support 2 floppy drives, so Toni's ADFRead and Disk2FDI aren't an option. (Disk2FDI is not XP compatible anyway). I've lost my null modem cable which i have used in the past with Amiga2PC

I suppose theres the crossdos option, creating the ADF's on the Amiga, LHAing them and writing to a PC disk. Means dragging the 1200 out of retirement though. Sigh.

Hasn't anyone figured out how to step a pc floppy drive motor without requiring 2 drives yet ? Its really about time there was an Amiga disk reading utility out there that works with a single PC Floppy drive.

/rant

I'll try to sort the crossdos route out.
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When i said "onto the interwebb" i meant get it to the tosec team. I've contacted some Tosec people in the past and got 0 reply. Don't they want people to help them ????
Here on EAB the Tosec Amiga team is very productive. We have some active renamers and the Amiga dat maintainer [idoru] is a Mod. This is the right place if you want to contribute disk.
I hope you find a way to make images of your disks. We would be happy to take care of them and they would be added to the dat!
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Old 20 November 2006, 04:41   #8
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hitm4n, the easiest way would be to drag out the A1200 and buy a PCMCIA to Compact Flash adaptor. You plug the PCMCIA CF adapter and a CF card into the A1200 and you can save the ADF images to the card. Pull the card out, plug it into the PC then upload away

Actually - there is an easier way - tee up with a local EAB'er and send them the disks and they do all the work.
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Old 20 November 2006, 10:15   #9
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Buy a Catweasel controller to dump the disks and be amazed how it produces bluescreens and fatal errors, something I didn't have for ages on WinXP.
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Old 20 November 2006, 10:36   #10
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A PCMCIA card reader is a definite solution. But for doing only approx 65 disks and never to be used again is a bit of a waste of money. I will try to source one from work, maybe from a colleague. What are the prices like on these things, can diff cards read diff media types ? Would anyone be prepared to loan me one ?

I'd be interested if anyones in my area (Lincoln, UK) and fancies helping me out, maybe meeting up.

Once my remaining disks are dumped there will be a 1200 for sale. 030 accelerator, 2mb extra memory. Dual speed CDRom and 400mb (i think) harddrive fitted internally. CDRom was a home fitted job with extra power supply but works great. 2nd Floppy drive (working fine) and of course my last few disks. I can possibly find a few Amiga game originals too. But thats AFTER these disks are done. I'd hate to lose them. The only reason i still have my 1200 now is these last few disks...

well, i'll see what i can sort out at work. Thanks for the help.
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Asked colleague and neither he nor work have one. It also raised the question, how do i plug the pcmcia card into my pc ?? I don't got no slottage for it

Now there is a null modem cable here at work, its a 9pin D at both ends one male one female. I have some serial gender benders too at home, so maybe that'll all work.
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Pinball dreams table is an oddity. After receiving this i've never heard mention of it anywhere. I think its an alternative version of the Ignition table or maybe stones and bones ? Honestly i can't rememeber and the 1200's packed away. I do know its just like the other dreams tables, works, and is a single standalone table.
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Now there is a null modem cable here at work, its a 9pin D at both ends one male one female. I have some serial gender benders too at home, so maybe that'll all work.
You sure it's null modem? I can't think of a single reason why you would want two different connectors at each end. Sounds more like an extension cable to me mate, which would be straight wired.

A null-modem cable has some cross-wiring in it. Much like an ethernet crossover.
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Its deffo a crossover cos he hacked it and wired it himself. It was for testing a swipe card machine which would only output its ip address settings thru null modem.

I think, seeing as i must drag the Amiga out, that i may as well use crossdos. I already have an ADF tool on the amiga so i can just dump the disks to adf, copy to pc floppies and load into pc. Shouldn't take long and it saves me having to sort out any extra hardware.

Hopefully i'll get to that one evening this week or Saturday. (most likely Saturday).
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I can't help to think how much work this all is for something that should be ubiquitily easy, and wonder how many people get turned off by the whole thing.
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with the right kit and a little knowledge its a doddle. Its just if you have the right kit...

Like i said earlier, its about time someone figured out how to read amiga disks. I understand that using 2 floppy drives allows the motors to be stepped in and out (or something) at the right times, but why not send timings and motor commands to the floppy driver and do the stepping via software ?? Come on... Think of the children !!!!!
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I can't help to think how much work this all is for something that should be ubiquitily easy, and wonder how many people get turned off by the whole thing.
It's called Catweasel...

...but that costs money, and it's understandable that people don't want to shell out for this.
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Most of todays dual printer/scanners have a compact flash card slot (that's what I use).
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Most of todays dual printer/scanners have a compact flash card slot (that's what I use).

Yea but you need one with parallel too dont ya ..
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Another huge bump from me... So 3 years on, do we have a way to dump amiga floppies with a little more ease ?

I never did get round to dumping my 60 or so rare discs and i really want to do them and get them into a Tosec before the discs die (maybe they already have). I posted a list a long time ago but i do know that some did make it into tosecs.

Heres what i need to check on now.

The coverdisks
***********
CU Amiga - 113 - Clarissa 2.0
CU Amiga - 136 - XiPaint
CU Amiga - 142 - Upper Disk Tools
CU Amiga - 143 - Mikro Mortal Tennis
Amiga Format - 78a - Snap Maps
Amiga Format - 78b - Blitz Bombers
Amiga Format - 83a - Scape Maker
Amiga Format - 84a - Game Engine
Amiga Computing - October 1994 - 3D Textures
Amiga Computing - February 1995 - Anim Workshop
Amiga Computing - January 1997 - Utilities Unleashed
Amiga Computing - March 1997 - Tool-Ey Unbelievable
Amiga Action - Christmas 1995 - Disk 2 - The Winning Post
Amiga Action - May 1996 - Disk 1 - Charlie Chimp Remix
Amiga Action - May 1996 - Disk 2 - Saturday Night Snooker
Amiga Action - May 1996 - Disk 3 - Munch

The dodgy stuff
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Logic's Book Of Forbidden Knowledge - Adult only
Jolly Roger's Cookbook - Adult only
Stag - Buk Stag 1-7 - Adult only
The Fuxkstones - Adult only

The demos
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Digital Force Music Selector
Silents Demo - Expose - Disk 1
Silents Demo - Expose - Disk 2
Lemmin's Revenge Anim by Roddy McMillan - Disk 1
Lemmin's Revenge Anim by Roddy McMillan - Disk 2
Focused on Art - Anarchy and Vision Slideshow
Devil Star - Virtual Dreams - AGA - Polka Brothers Demo

The games
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Imbrium
Pacman Worlds
Pinball Dreams - Unreleased Table
Quest For Galaxia
Gravity Power + Level Editor
Bratwurst AGA

I'll try to get one of those huge dats and manually check if any of these are listed.
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