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Old 16 May 2015, 10:19   #1
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pc task 4.4:)

I know this is complete madness , But I've installed pc task 4.4 on winuae just to mess with , I've got a sd card , I'm using as an Amiga drive,partitioned it in Amiga os 3.5, ran PC Task, and formatted one partition as PC partition.

So in theory be able to copy files over to it from Win7, but I think I've missed something. I thought if its formatted as a PC partition in PC task then win7 should see it as a accessible partition or is there more to it .

Or if someone knows how to access PC Task Partitions from Amiga dos, only I can't get crossmount to work, it says its mounted them but they don't show up!.

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Old 16 May 2015, 11:30   #2
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Should be easier to make an msdos disk under windows and then mount it on the amiga side. The other way round is more difficult since windows might require something to get it mounted.
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Old 18 May 2015, 10:41   #3
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Back in the day, on a real Amiga, I used to mount the MS-DOS partition on the Amiga side using a mount file in Devs/DOSDrivers. I based it on a CrossDOS file, took the values required from HDToolbox's entries and used Fat95 as the filesystem and 1230scsi.device as the device. Worked perfectly for accessing files from both sides. Be very careful doing this though as the wrong values has the potential to corrupt other partitions!

If you need it I can probably fire up the old machine and see if I still have the mount file.

Edit: As for why Windows 7 can't see the partition, the Amiga hard drive is set up using the Amiga's RDB partitioning scheme which Windows can't understand. It could probably read the partition itself fine, but it doesn't know where to look.
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Old 18 May 2015, 17:49   #4
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re

Thanks for both your answers, I gave up and finally got the cd rom to work , so made a dvd iso image of all the files, then setup the config.sys and autoexec.com for dvd, hey presto easy access to the dos games I fancied trying out on it
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Old 18 May 2015, 18:15   #5
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I'm also using a mount file in Devs/DOSDrivers. But a hardfile instead of a real disk.
I have some mountfiles created using crossmount and they work fine.
The mountfile should look like this:
Code:
/* Mountfile Entry Created: 02-May-;14 15:15:53
 * for a File as a CrossDOS Disk.
 *
 * Disk Size: 80.0 Meg
 * Vendor and drive name: 
 */
/* Disk size parameters.*/
  Surfaces = 1
  BlocksPerTrack = 1
  Lowcyl = 0
  Highcyl = 163840
  BufMemType = 0
  Blocksize = 512
/* Device driver parameters.*/
  Device = filedisk.device
  Unit = "System:Emulators/IBM-PC/PC-Task4/hardfile0"
  Flags = 0x00000000
/* File system parameters.*/
  Mask = 0xFFFFFFFE
  Maxtransfer = 0xFFFFFFFF
  Reserved = 2
  Filesystem = L:CrossDOSFileSystem
  Stacksize = 2000
  Priority = 5
  Bootpri = -20
  Globvec = -1
  Buffers = 5
  Dostype = 0x4d534800
  Mount = 1
#
I named it PCC and saved it in sys:devs/dosdrivers.

Now I created a blank file named hardfile0 in sys:Emulators/IBM-PC/PC-Task4.

I did setup hardfile0 as harddisk C: in PCTask and used a floppy image of DOS version 6.2 or so to format the (virtual)disk. (I think I needed crossdos on the Amig side but it was looong ago)

After reboot the Filedisk ws also visible from the Workbench.

I think it works similar with a real disk. But I see no reason why to use one.
The filedisk is still faster than any real Amiga harddisk ever was thanks to UAE.

EDIT: Found the image on my drive.Just hacked the name into google and the DL site came up. http://www.allbootdisks.com/download/dos.html I like the web.
It was very helpful.

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Old 25 October 2016, 22:01   #6
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Has anyone had any luck creating a large hardfile in pctask4.4? I've used it to create a 100mb one. I've then mounted hardfile0 and hardfile1 using pctcrossmount. Hardfile0 becomes accessible in workbench as tcc: but I can't access tdc: at all. I can't format it (I get an error 254 from the format command) and I can't format the drive in msdos from Pctask.

Any ideas what the problem might be? Failing that, could someone kindly email me a blank large working hardfile?
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Old 28 July 2023, 16:13   #7
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Does anyone know how to hook a virtual cd-rom to pctask 4.4?
I tried with isomount and a cd of win95 but it doesn´t was recognized.
Isomount creates a virtual drive with win95.iso inside named SCD0: and PC-Task associate it to D: and all goes well. But the win95 boot floppy has 4 cd drivers and none of it recognize the drive. Any tips about?
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Old 28 July 2023, 16:44   #8
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The archive is aminet is lacking some files it seems, I would like to mount hardfile0 since using diskimages is unbearable slow, any hint?
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Old 28 July 2023, 17:18   #9
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The archive is aminet is lacking some files it seems, I would like to mount hardfile0 since using diskimages is unbearable slow, any hint?

What I´m doing is: copy all win95 floppy images to a c:\ directory and then install win95 from there
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Old 28 July 2023, 17:24   #10
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Check the zone for the missing piece..
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Old 28 July 2023, 17:36   #11
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Thanks Jope
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Old 29 July 2023, 16:58   #12
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Hello, I'm trying to install win95 to my PC-Task c:\ partition but it quits with a screen error: Fatal error opening or using the screen
I already tried a varied number of different resolutions and colors in VGA and SVGA of both Dynamic and Interpretative modes but it still giving the same error.
Does anyone know how to fix it?
Or there are on the net any hardfiles with win95 already installed?

Thanks in advance
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Old 07 August 2023, 20:17   #13
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Any idea on how to map a virtual cd from amiga in PC-Task?
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Old 07 August 2023, 21:21   #14
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you have install mscdex.exe, a cdrom.sys that mount your cdrom amiga side (real or emulated)
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Old 07 August 2023, 22:13   #15
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I already have mscdex.exe and 4 cdrom drivers, including the OAKCDROM.SYS (a geral ide cdrom driver), and tested with a virtual iso cd mounted through isomount and also through iso image mounted through Amiberry menu cd option but it keeps with the error mscd001 driver not find.
I think the problem is that a virtual cd is not IDE nor SCSI
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Old 08 August 2023, 11:57   #16
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i not remember how to set PC-Task, but i'm sure that in the past, with my real A1200 with 68040 i have installed "Star Trek Final Unity" via CD-ROM.
I think that PC-TAsk 4.4 should be have PCTCDrom.sys that working and it is included in PC-Task

try to use this device with mscdex

autoexec.bat:

Code:
mscdex/D:MSCD001
config.sys:
Code:
device=PCTCDROM.sys/D:(your amiga device),(unit)



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Old 08 August 2023, 12:34   #17
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Mm yes, definitely use pctcdrom.sys, not any of the ATAPI drivers.
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Old 08 August 2023, 14:12   #18
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Worked for me, installed Win95 (with 060) several times as every crash did make it non bootable. Was no use but kind of entertainment. Slow as hell, you could see it write the icons, borders etc. Boot time was 2.5 - 4 minutes
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Old 08 August 2023, 15:03   #19
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I think that PC-TAsk 4.4 should be have PCTCDrom.sys that working and it is included in PC-Task

Thanks for the advice Seiya, I will try PCTCDrom.sys

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Worked for me, installed Win95 (with 060) several times as every crash did make it non bootable. Was no use but kind of entertainment. Slow as hell, you could see it write the icons, borders etc. Boot time was 2.5 - 4 minutes

I already installed Win 3 on a 040 but it was unuseful so now I want to try win95 on a real A1200 with piStorm and on a RaspberryPi4 with Amiberry too.

Tried install win95 through floppys but it gives me a screen error so want to try other versions of win95 in cd and see if can install it.
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