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Old 10 September 2017, 09:58   #1
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Amiga NIC and maxspeed

So i read that the Amiga cpu is the bottleneck when it comes to networkspeed. My question is do i get better speed with nic with rj45 cables or should i stick with my wirelesscard that gives me aorund 575 kb/s. My Amiga1200 72MB & Blizzard 1230IV/SCSI kit. PCMCIA card: Thomson Speedtouch 101/prism2v2
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Old 10 September 2017, 10:17   #2
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This is the best speed you can get with 030. In order to get more you'll need to get yourself 040, 060 or Vampire 1200.
Do you use Roadshow TCP/IP stack?
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Ok so the speed has nothing to do with what kind of nic you are using then? So i wont get better speed with a LANcard vs Wirelesscard? No i am using Amitcp 3.0b2. Is Roadshow better?
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In order to get more you'll need to get yourself 040, 060
What won't work. Chipset access with 040+ is worse than with 030 or below.
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AmiTCP is fast as well, nearly as fast as Roadshow.
060 or Vampire give a huge speed boost. I don't remember 040 as it was 10 years ago I last used it.
With 060 I get 970KB/s via FTP. However, with Vampire 600 and Netgear ethernet 10/100mbit card I can get 1,9MB/s via FTP using Roadshow TCP/IP
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Ok, another question whats the best FTP program for WB Classic. Ive tried many programs like Gofetch, FTPmount, Amiftp and none of the is working properly. Some crashes and amiftp gives 20kbs for me. So whats you suggestion of a good ftp/transfer program for many/big files. (PC -> Amiga)
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Ok so the speed has nothing to do with what kind of nic you are using then? So i wont get better speed with a LANcard vs Wirelesscard? No i am using Amitcp 3.0b2. Is Roadshow better?
Roadshow is always better as it is maintained and Olaf offers great support.

Ethernet has less overhead than wifi, and wifi speeds depends on a number of things, such as what wifi standard is used, what encryption is used and how much the NIC can do in hardware. Some wifi NICs can behave very much like ethernet NICs, just shuffling ethernet packats to the OS, doing all the black magic wifi stuff and encryption in hardware, while other chipsets rely on the software driver doing magic and encryption. The latter of course takes CPU power, and require much more advanced drivers.

For prism2, some cards can do encryption (TKIP and/or CCMP) in hardware, while others don't, you may want to use encryption on your wifi network that the wifi card in your Amiga can do in hardware. Sadly, there are no modem wifi cards for Amiga, so it always means running a legacy wifi network (802.11b, 2.4GHz). A work-around for that is to get some ethernet-wifi bridge that supports modern wifi and that can plug into ethernet NIC on your Amiga. That's what I do, using raspberry pi zeros typically as bridge, but there are lots of dedicated ones around, and for example any Apple Airport can do it too.
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Ok i just posted a YT speedtest on my machine here: [ Show youtube player ]. I will get another pcmcia-card next week so i will see if theres a difference in speed between lan vs wifi.
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There are other FTP clients than mentioned by you.
Try AmiFTP, AmFTP, ATC - AmiTradeCenter, mFTP.
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Thanks for you info, i just tried mftp with a verygood speed boost compared to webdownloading i did before. Check out the speed now: [ Show youtube player ]
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I think this is AmFTP.
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I think this is AmFTP.
Hmm no its mftp as it says in the about: mftp 1.34 (Mars 31 1996).
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Anyway 13 Megabyte in 56 seconds. I just want my other lancard to see how fast it can get. And maybe skip the wifi totally.

(Since here im using WPA-TKIP)
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Hmm no its mftp as it says in the about: mftp 1.34 (Mars 31 1996).
You are right then. The GUI is so similar to AmFTP, though. I think there is a newer version of mFTP somewhere.
Have you tried ATC and AmiFTP?
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You are right then. The GUI is so similar to AmFTP, though. I think there is a newer version of mFTP somewhere.
Have you tried ATC and AmiFTP?
Yes, and it crashed. AmiFTP seems better, i tested now and i get around 2.75Mbit over WIFI WPA and using a little less cpu (36 sec for 13MB)

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Old 10 September 2017, 16:17   #16
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[ Show youtube player ]

AmiFTP best so far.
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Do a test with ttcp against a computer on your local network, then you will see what speed the hardware+nic driver+TCP/IP-stack is capable of without introducing unknown slowdowns from the ftp client, which often suffer from inefficient disk IO.
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Do a test with ttcp against a computer on your local network, then you will see what speed the hardware+nic driver+TCP/IP-stack is capable of without introducing unknown slowdowns from the ftp client, which often suffer from inefficient disk IO.
Ok, but do i have to compile ttcp for linux? Does iperf3 works if so whats the syntax on amiga/linux? (i tried iperf3 but it didnt work as i thought)
I get this on the shellwindow when i run "ttcp -r" :

"stacker.1505059220.240575.20ee229673"

stacker is my linuxserver

And using "iperf3 -c 192.168.0.155 -p 5001" on linux

And if thats the result it doesnt says me nothing.

Edit: i tried iperf from my pfsense router and i crashed amiga directly.

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The syntax is "ttcp -s -r" where -s is to not print received data to stdout. I have not tried with iperf, but ttcp will work with anything that sends data to it without expecting anything back.

If you compile ttcp on the linux server, the syntax would be "ttcp -s -t amigaiporhostname".

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The syntax is "ttcp -s -r" where -s is to not print received data to stdout. I have not tried with iperf, but ttcp will work with anything that sends data to it without expecting anything back.

If you compile ttcp on the linux server, the syntax would be "ttcp -s -t amigaiporhostname".
Ok, UDP didnt work for me but i got a TCP result: [ Show youtube player ]

436.50 KB/s (tcp)

I got 470 KB/s (tcp) before, a litle lower this time.
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