CW-GAAE 4GB microdrive boot time - stock 1MB A600 w/ 37.300

10 March 2010, 12:49

What boot times do people report from A600s running microdrives?

RAM wise, mine is stock at the moment. The ROM is 37.300 - so IDE support is there and working.

Current boot time into an untouched CW-GAAE is around 20-25 seconds. I can live with it, but kind of expected better...

The drive is one of those ex Apple 4GB Hitachi ones that have been floating on the Bay recently. Setup in UAE with uaehf.device tool types (scsi.device was refusing to pickup).

Thoughts?

Loedown · 10 March 2010, 12:57

I don't have an A600 to comment on, but if it doesn't suffer the long drawn out saga of an A4000 boot, you should be seeing WB3.1 in around 15 - 20 seconds, that's for stock config.

prowler · 10 March 2010, 13:01

Hi mancalledSun,

Grab PowerPie5000's v37.350 2.05 A600 ROM from here:
http://eab.abime.net/showpost.php?p=649716&postcount=5

37.350 really does have large capacity IDE hard drive support.

Loedown · 10 March 2010, 13:23

Quote:

Originally Posted by prowler

Hi mancalledSun,

Grab PowerPie5000's v37.350 2.05 A600 ROM from here:
http://eab.abime.net/showpost.php?p=649716&postcount=5

37.350 really does have large capacity IDE hard drive support.

How big?

Chain · 10 March 2010, 13:27

4gig drive, two 2gig partititons max

fitzsteve · 10 March 2010, 13:34

I've got a 2.5gb Microdrive in my A600 but i'm on 3.1 rom. Its pretty slow to boot, maybe 20-25 sec's like you - i'll time it later

Steve.

10 March 2010, 13:52

Quote:

Originally Posted by prowler

Hi mancalledSun,

Grab PowerPie5000's v37.350 2.05 A600 ROM from here:
http://eab.abime.net/showpost.php?p=649716&postcount=5

37.350 really does have large capacity IDE hard drive support.

I thought about that actually, but although it takes 25 seconds, it's works.

Unless anybody with 37.350 can confirm fantastic speeds?

The same physical drive in a card reader mounted in WinUAE boots in around half the time. Even on a stock config.

10 March 2010, 13:55

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chain

4gig drive, two 2gig partititons max

On my 37.300, the 4GB drive has:

125 MB partition for Sys2.1

and...

4 x 815 MB partitions for games (had trouble with support over 1GB, so kept well within)

Seems fine.

prowler · 10 March 2010, 14:00

Quote:

Originally Posted by mancalledSun

I thought about that actually, but although it takes 25 seconds, it's works.

Unless anybody with 37.350 can confirm fantastic speeds?

I wasn't really suggesting the 37.350 ROM to boost your speed, because I doubt that it would. I just thought it would be an opportunity for you to acquire a ROM upgrade at minimal cost.

PowerPie5000 · 10 March 2010, 16:35

Quote:

Originally Posted by mancalledSun

I thought about that actually, but although it takes 25 seconds, it's works.

Unless anybody with 37.350 can confirm fantastic speeds?

The same physical drive in a card reader mounted in WinUAE boots in around half the time. Even on a stock config.

My A600 took around 25 secs to boot to ClassicWB from power up. The 37.350 rom has better compatibility for larger drives but it also add's a few seconds to the initial boot time... I assume it does a better job at scanning the IDE bus or maybe it just allows more time for slower drives to spin-up before booting?

I can supply both a 37.350 rom along with a 3gb fully loaded A600 hard drive if anyone's interested?

10 March 2010, 16:52

Quote:

Originally Posted by PowerPie5000

My A600 took around 25 secs to boot to ClassicWB from power up. The 37.350 rom has better compatibility for larger drives but it also add's a few seconds to the initial boot time... I assume it does a better job at scanning the IDE bus or maybe it just allows more time for slower drives to spin-up before booting?

I can supply both a 37.350 rom along with a 3gb fully loaded A600 hard drive if anyone's interested?

Ho de ho. Keep plugging PowerPie5000, it'll go! I had only just finished my build on WinUAE while thinking about making an offer on your ROM. I got closer to that offer about 17 seconds into booting for the first time in the June Bug...

...then I breathed a sigh of relief!

Thanks for all your replies.

PowerPie5000 · 10 March 2010, 16:54

Oh and i forgot to mention that 25 second boot time was also with a 2mb PCMCIA SRAM card installed... these also slow the initial boot time by a few more seconds.

fitzsteve · 10 March 2010, 17:52

Just timed my A600, 3.1 rom, CWB 68k with the 2mb SRAM in place, 25 seconds

My A1200 with the M-Tec 030 and a regular hard drive boots into classic WB ADV in a record 13 seconds

rkauer · 14 March 2010, 04:40

My A1200 060 boots from CF in 8s! Even faster than the LCD! When it finally goes up the WB3.9 image are there, no wait states, nothing.

But I quit CF because of the low space. My 1200T HD is 80Gb!

My A600 with CF takes 25~30s to boot up. It uses ROM 3.1 and a 1Mb PCMCIA SRAM.

fitzsteve · 14 March 2010, 10:20

This is interesting. I setup a second A600 out of spare's I had and a motherboard I got off ebay.

This one is using 3.1 rom and the old 85mb HDD that came with my A1200 when it was new

Also just a stock install of WB3.1 and it boots in an amazing 12 seconds wit or with the SRAM in place!

Steve.

Shadowfire · 14 March 2010, 16:22

What is CW-GAAE?

coze · 14 March 2010, 17:07

Quote:

Originally Posted by Shadowfire

What is CW-GAAE?

Classic Workbench package Green Amiga Alien Edition, ( named in the memory of a passed member

)

I think boot time is mostly dependent on processor speed. Sure if you had a bare 2.1 workbench you can boot faster (10-15 sec perhaps ?) But more stuff you add to it, slower it'll get.

Bloodwych · 14 March 2010, 17:15

One of the reasons I added the RAD: boot option (left mouse button on boot) was to turn a standard Amiga into a fast starting console, especially for those with 68000 CPU's missing the quit key.

http://classicwb.abime.net/classicweb/multiboot.htm

It's meant to boot into a games menu within seconds, even if you restart, by using the RAD: device.

But people report that it doesn't work on real Amiga's???? Still can't work out why, as it works fine in WinUAE.

rkauer · 14 March 2010, 20:25

@BW: can I make a suggestion? Can you please move the programs from the expansion to other location? I installed the package in a SCSI HD A500 and in a basic A2000 (just 2Mb RAM - A2091).

When stating "Binddrivers" in the startup-sequence both the Amigas goes nuts.

FOL · 14 March 2010, 21:03

My sons A600 is exactly the same, does it matter??
It does everything its ment to (Play games).

10 March 2010, 12:49	#1
mancalledSun Posts: n/a	CW-GAAE 4GB microdrive boot time - stock 1MB A600 w/ 37.300 What boot times do people report from A600s running microdrives? RAM wise, mine is stock at the moment. The ROM is 37.300 - so IDE support is there and working. Current boot time into an untouched CW-GAAE is around 20-25 seconds. I can live with it, but kind of expected better... The drive is one of those ex Apple 4GB Hitachi ones that have been floating on the Bay recently. Setup in UAE with uaehf.device tool types (scsi.device was refusing to pickup). Thoughts?

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10 March 2010, 12:57	#2
Loedown Precious & fragile things Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Victoria, Australia Posts: 1,946	I don't have an A600 to comment on, but if it doesn't suffer the long drawn out saga of an A4000 boot, you should be seeing WB3.1 in around 15 - 20 seconds, that's for stock config.

10 March 2010, 13:01	#3
prowler Global Moderator Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Sidcup, England Posts: 10,300	Hi mancalledSun, Grab PowerPie5000's v37.350 2.05 A600 ROM from here: http://eab.abime.net/showpost.php?p=649716&postcount=5 37.350 really does have large capacity IDE hard drive support.

10 March 2010, 13:27	#5
Chain A-Collector, repairments Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Czech Rep. Age: 50 Posts: 1,536	4gig drive, two 2gig partititons max

10 March 2010, 13:34	#6
fitzsteve Professional slacker! Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Kent, UK Age: 44 Posts: 6,683	I've got a 2.5gb Microdrive in my A600 but i'm on 3.1 rom. Its pretty slow to boot, maybe 20-25 sec's like you - i'll time it later Steve.

10 March 2010, 16:54	#12
PowerPie5000 Miggy Ate My Hamster! Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Lancashire, UK Posts: 1,566	Oh and i forgot to mention that 25 second boot time was also with a 2mb PCMCIA SRAM card installed... these also slow the initial boot time by a few more seconds.

10 March 2010, 17:52	#13
fitzsteve Professional slacker! Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Kent, UK Age: 44 Posts: 6,683	Just timed my A600, 3.1 rom, CWB 68k with the 2mb SRAM in place, 25 seconds My A1200 with the M-Tec 030 and a regular hard drive boots into classic WB ADV in a record 13 seconds

14 March 2010, 04:40	#14
rkauer I hate potatos and shirts Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Sao Leopoldo / Brazil Age: 58 Posts: 3,482	My A1200 060 boots from CF in 8s! Even faster than the LCD! When it finally goes up the WB3.9 image are there, no wait states, nothing. But I quit CF because of the low space. My 1200T HD is 80Gb! My A600 with CF takes 25~30s to boot up. It uses ROM 3.1 and a 1Mb PCMCIA SRAM.

14 March 2010, 10:20	#15
fitzsteve Professional slacker! Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Kent, UK Age: 44 Posts: 6,683	This is interesting. I setup a second A600 out of spare's I had and a motherboard I got off ebay. This one is using 3.1 rom and the old 85mb HDD that came with my A1200 when it was new Also just a stock install of WB3.1 and it boots in an amazing 12 seconds wit or with the SRAM in place! Steve.

14 March 2010, 16:22	#16
Shadowfire Registered User Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Connecticut USA Posts: 617	What is CW-GAAE?

14 March 2010, 17:15	#18
Bloodwych Moderator Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: I'm behind you! Posts: 3,763	One of the reasons I added the RAD: boot option (left mouse button on boot) was to turn a standard Amiga into a fast starting console, especially for those with 68000 CPU's missing the quit key. http://classicwb.abime.net/classicweb/multiboot.htm It's meant to boot into a games menu within seconds, even if you restart, by using the RAD: device. But people report that it doesn't work on real Amiga's???? Still can't work out why, as it works fine in WinUAE.

14 March 2010, 20:25	#19
rkauer I hate potatos and shirts Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Sao Leopoldo / Brazil Age: 58 Posts: 3,482	@BW: can I make a suggestion? Can you please move the programs from the expansion to other location? I installed the package in a SCSI HD A500 and in a basic A2000 (just 2Mb RAM - A2091). When stating "Binddrivers" in the startup-sequence both the Amigas goes nuts.

14 March 2010, 21:03	#20
FOL PSPUAE DEV Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Wales / UK Age: 45 Posts: 6,020	My sons A600 is exactly the same, does it matter?? It does everything its ment to (Play games).

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