Where can I buy retrobright? - Page 2

johnim · 26 February 2014, 22:47

hi i just popped the keys off and put them in a plastic container in the sun with the bblonde covering them all

then rinsed them in cool water

Higgy · 26 February 2014, 23:18

Hi.

I used some tissue to get most of it off, then dip a nail brush into some soapy warm water. Shake the brush so it is not dripping wet, then with the keyboard positioned so water would not run into it and any circuits, brush the keys.
Every so often dip the brush back into the water to clean it.

fitzsteve · 26 February 2014, 23:34

Quote:

Originally Posted by amigasith

I'm just curious - how do you guys clean the keyboard after the treatment

Do you wash the BBlonde (or whatever else) stuff off by letting water flow all over the (still assembled) keyboard? Or do you take the keys off individually and then apply BBlonde? Eventually, I'd like to do some retr0bright myself and I'm just wondering how others handle keyboards.

Looking forward to your comments

For A1200/A600 I remove the metal backing from the keyboard and put it along with the membrane somewhere safe, this leaves you with the keys connected to the black plastic part, no need to remove the keys.

Note the blue membrane A600 keyboard is different and they keys will fall out!

Anyway, I clean the keys and the plastic part in the sink with soapy water, nothing but the finest quality fairy liquid for my Amiga's! I clean them with a soft washing up brush.

I then dry them out in the airing cupboard before rebuilding.

I swear I have RSI from all those little screws lol.

BarryB · 26 February 2014, 23:40

Don't you use clear lacquer to seal the retr0brighted areas so they don't go yellow again? Think this was an important factor when performing this process, starve oxygen from the surface so the yellowing doesn't return, plus using lacquer with a UV blocker would also help.

fitzsteve · 26 February 2014, 23:46

Quote:

Originally Posted by BarryB

Don't you use clear lacquer to seal the retr0brighted areas so they don't go yellow again? Think this was an important factor when performing this process, starve oxygen from the surface so the yellowing doesn't return, plus using lacquer with a UV blocker would also help.

I didn't want to change the texture of the case myself but then I didn't keep the stuff I retr0brighted, I have bought brand new keyboards for my own Amiga's and bought stuff that was never yellow and keep if covered.

BarryB · 27 February 2014, 14:07

You can get matt lacquer but if you've sold the stuff then that's moot!

amigasith · 27 February 2014, 21:56

@Thread: Thanks for all your great suggestions

I think I have a clearer view now of what has to be done...

Very probably, I will go for Steve's suggestion. Sounds like the method with the least effort - true "professional slacker" style

Even if I am in severe danger of getting RSI

Retrofan · 27 February 2014, 22:56

I don't like to use the lacquer either. I preffer to retr0bright the things again from time to time. I must get a couple of dust covers more, though...

johnim · 27 February 2014, 23:27

wont the springs go rusty if left on the keyboard?

Higgy · 27 February 2014, 23:42

If you think of the key being a mushroom shape (can't think if anything else) then if you use a nail brush and little water it will not get in. The water will not go up.

As long as the retrobite mix does not dry, it is quite easy to remove.

Retrofan · 27 February 2014, 23:44

I like to use an spray wax for furnitures with everything (I mean plastics, car, motorbike, etc, etc). That is very easy to apply and to get inside, and will keep away the rust. I always use it after the retr0bright.

Edit: But I always use a hair dryer after the retr0bright and cleaning it all with water.

fitzsteve · 28 February 2014, 03:01

Quote:

Originally Posted by johnim

wont the springs go rusty if left on the keyboard?

Not if you dry them properly, overnight in the airing cupboard is enough :-)

AshtonPete · 01 May 2014, 00:45

I bought this... http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Re-Oxide-1...item540422d5d4

A 1 ltr bottle of cream peroxide... layed keys on a tray with turkey foil... painted the peroxide on the keys. Then covered in cling film to retain moisture under a 600 watt Sunbright gro Lamp, giving off tons of heat and light... but your lekky meter will spin at the speed of light. Gotta keep an eye on it though, too much time and parts will bloom. I heard it said that 18% is too powerful and needs diluting somewhat, not sure of what ratio was suggested. Like I said keep an eye on it, I found about 10 hours is sufficient watching at intervals. Take out a key and wash it, see if the yellow has gone, if not whack it back under there with a fresh coating.

Sim085 · 02 August 2014, 13:41

I bought BBlonde and applied it (i.e. used a paint brush and I applied this directly). I used clingfoil on the part are where I applied BBlond. Moved the part in the sun and left it for half a day. I could not see any difference!! What am I doing wrong?

demolition · 02 August 2014, 13:49

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sim085

I bought BBlonde and applied it (i.e. used a paint brush and I applied this directly). I used clingfoil on the part are where I applied BBlond. Moved the part in the sun and left it for half a day. I could not see any difference!! What am I doing wrong?

Sounds right. What did you try to treat? And was it clean when you started? If the item is yellowed due to nicotine, I'm not sure BBlonde will help much.
Edit: And which BBlonde product did you use? It needs to say Cream Peroxide on it like here: http://www.co-operativepharmacy.co.u...rge/117580.jpg.

Sim085 · 16 August 2014, 16:35

I attached a photo of the BBlonde I have! Looks the same (cream) but mine is not liquid! Do I need to mix this with something?

Quote:

Originally Posted by demolition

Sounds right. What did you try to treat? And was it clean when you started? If the item is yellowed due to nicotine, I'm not sure BBlonde will help much.
Edit: And which BBlonde product did you use? It needs to say Cream Peroxide on it like here: http://www.co-operativepharmacy.co.u...rge/117580.jpg.

fitzsteve · 16 August 2014, 18:06

This is fine, just use a brush to apply, cover the kit in cling film so it dont dry out and leave out all day.

Treguard · 24 June 2015, 22:24

Stupid question, but would you onoy use this stuff / BBlonde cream on the white keys or both white and grey?

supaduper · 24 June 2015, 22:34

Quote:

Originally Posted by Treguard

Stupid question, but would you onoy use this stuff / BBlonde cream on the white keys or both white and grey?

Its okay to use on both

Treguard · 24 June 2015, 23:27

Quote:

Originally Posted by supaduper

Its okay to use on both

Thanks

Sorry to resurrect a year old thread.

01 May 2014, 00:45	#33
AshtonPete Registered User Join Date: Aug 2013 Location: Wigan Age: 73 Posts: 70	I bought this... http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Re-Oxide-1...item540422d5d4 A 1 ltr bottle of cream peroxide... layed keys on a tray with turkey foil... painted the peroxide on the keys. Then covered in cling film to retain moisture under a 600 watt Sunbright gro Lamp, giving off tons of heat and light... but your lekky meter will spin at the speed of light. Gotta keep an eye on it though, too much time and parts will bloom. I heard it said that 18% is too powerful and needs diluting somewhat, not sure of what ratio was suggested. Like I said keep an eye on it, I found about 10 hours is sufficient watching at intervals. Take out a key and wash it, see if the yellow has gone, if not whack it back under there with a fresh coating. Last edited by AshtonPete; 01 May 2014 at 13:40.

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26 February 2014, 22:47	#21
johnim Amibay Mod/Staff Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: birmingham uk Age: 48 Posts: 1,019	hi i just popped the keys off and put them in a plastic container in the sun with the bblonde covering them all then rinsed them in cool water

26 February 2014, 23:18	#22
Higgy Registered User Join Date: Jan 2014 Location: Somerset, UK Posts: 547	Hi. I used some tissue to get most of it off, then dip a nail brush into some soapy warm water. Shake the brush so it is not dripping wet, then with the keyboard positioned so water would not run into it and any circuits, brush the keys. Every so often dip the brush back into the water to clean it.

26 February 2014, 23:40	#24
BarryB Amigaholic Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: UK Posts: 4,677	Don't you use clear lacquer to seal the retr0brighted areas so they don't go yellow again? Think this was an important factor when performing this process, starve oxygen from the surface so the yellowing doesn't return, plus using lacquer with a UV blocker would also help.

27 February 2014, 14:07	#26
BarryB Amigaholic Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: UK Posts: 4,677	You can get matt lacquer but if you've sold the stuff then that's moot!

27 February 2014, 21:56	#27
amigasith Registered User Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Wild South / Germany Age: 48 Posts: 271	@Thread: Thanks for all your great suggestions I think I have a clearer view now of what has to be done... Very probably, I will go for Steve's suggestion. Sounds like the method with the least effort - true "professional slacker" style Even if I am in severe danger of getting RSI

27 February 2014, 22:56	#28
Retrofan Ruler of the Universe Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: Lanzarote/Spain Posts: 6,185	I don't like to use the lacquer either. I preffer to retr0bright the things again from time to time. I must get a couple of dust covers more, though...

27 February 2014, 23:27	#29
johnim Amibay Mod/Staff Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: birmingham uk Age: 48 Posts: 1,019	wont the springs go rusty if left on the keyboard?

27 February 2014, 23:42	#30
Higgy Registered User Join Date: Jan 2014 Location: Somerset, UK Posts: 547	If you think of the key being a mushroom shape (can't think if anything else) then if you use a nail brush and little water it will not get in. The water will not go up. As long as the retrobite mix does not dry, it is quite easy to remove.

27 February 2014, 23:44	#31
Retrofan Ruler of the Universe Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: Lanzarote/Spain Posts: 6,185	I like to use an spray wax for furnitures with everything (I mean plastics, car, motorbike, etc, etc). That is very easy to apply and to get inside, and will keep away the rust. I always use it after the retr0bright. Edit: But I always use a hair dryer after the retr0bright and cleaning it all with water.

02 August 2014, 13:41	#34
Sim085 Registered User Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: N/A Posts: 962	I bought BBlonde and applied it (i.e. used a paint brush and I applied this directly). I used clingfoil on the part are where I applied BBlond. Moved the part in the sun and left it for half a day. I could not see any difference!! What am I doing wrong?

16 August 2014, 18:06	#37
fitzsteve Professional slacker! Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Kent, UK Age: 44 Posts: 6,683	This is fine, just use a brush to apply, cover the kit in cling film so it dont dry out and leave out all day.

24 June 2015, 22:24	#38
Treguard Registered User Join Date: Jan 2015 Location: Manchester Posts: 41	Stupid question, but would you onoy use this stuff / BBlonde cream on the white keys or both white and grey?

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