New products for C64 and Amiga from Individual Computers - Page 48

jbenam · 29 August 2013, 21:05

Jens, sorry for being a bit silly in asking this but...

Considering we're in 2013 (and 2014 is near) and CFs are getting harder to find by the day, wouldn't have been more future-proof to equip the ACA500 with two SD slots, instead of CF?

I know that CF is ATA compliant, but there are a lot of SD-to-IDE converters around, and they seem to work pretty well even if SD isn't ATA compliant natively.

Schoenfeld · 29 August 2013, 22:49

Quote:

Originally Posted by jbenam

I know that CF is ATA compliant, but there are a lot of SD-to-IDE converters around, and they seem to work pretty well even if SD isn't ATA compliant natively.

You answered that yourself: CF can work with the existing drivers, SD can't. If you're willing to pay for driver development and hardware re-design, let me know. Otherwise, let me assure you that CF may be a little harder to find than SD, but won't die out any time soon. There are too many industrial uses and high-end digital cameras that use CF.

Jens

amiga1260 · 29 August 2013, 23:26

Thank you for your reply. I hope this card will work.

hiho · 30 August 2013, 00:43

Quote:

Originally Posted by jbenam

Jens, sorry for being a bit silly in asking this but...

Considering we're in 2013 (and 2014 is near) and CFs are getting harder to find by the day, wouldn't have been more future-proof to equip the ACA500 with two SD slots, instead of CF?

I know that CF is ATA compliant, but there are a lot of SD-to-IDE converters around, and they seem to work pretty well even if SD isn't ATA compliant natively.

I've found CF to SD adapters to work fine with my Amigas.

ShK · 30 August 2013, 03:57

Quote:

Originally Posted by hiho

I've found CF to SD adapters to work fine with my Amigas.

Adapters has worked very well on my A1200 too...

Sysinfo speed for SD ( ACA-1231/42 & PFS3 All-in-One ):

dJOS · 30 August 2013, 04:06

That's surprisingly fast compared to my a1200+aca1220, I'm only getting 1,481,039 with a sandisk 30mb/s 4gb cf card.

Retrofan · 30 August 2013, 04:06

ShK very interesting info, and impressive speed

. Ebay linky for the "Extreme CF Adapter"?

Edit: This? http://www.ebay.es/itm/Extreme-Compa...2d7940a&_uhb=1

Edit 2: And I'm awaiting -long time- the right time to ask for a "new product for Amiga from Individual Computers": a new Idefix card with more or less 10MB/s speed.

ShK · 30 August 2013, 04:22

Quote:

Originally Posted by Retrofan

ShK very interesting info, and impressive speed

. Ebay linky for the "Extreme CF Adapter"?

Edit: This? http://www.ebay.es/itm/Extreme-Compa...2d7940a&_uhb=1

No it's not. It must be TYPE I -adapter!

Like this:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Compact-Flas...item589c47a5ad

And SD-card:
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...m=221113861593

ShK · 30 August 2013, 04:28

Retrofan · 30 August 2013, 04:30

Thanks

Edit: Well, I guess this better (10,79€ against 30€): http://www.ebay.es/itm/MicroSD-to-CF...73e35a6&_uhb=1

Edit: And this for the card (11€ against 22€) : http://www.ebay.es/itm/8GB-SanDisk-E...ed7dc75&_uhb=1

So... 22€ to have 8Gb (perfect) and 3,276,800 bytes/secs (like PIO II or something with a Fast ATA).

ShK · 30 August 2013, 04:37

It was just an example. I recall that my adapter cost a little more than 10€ in the this spring.

ShK · 30 August 2013, 04:40

Note that you will also need a high-speed SD card for the writing.

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...m=221113861593

ShK · 30 August 2013, 04:54

A small off-topic, but the cf HDD kit adaptor is little bit faster than IDE 44pin > SD Card adaptor with the same SD-card.

ShK · 30 August 2013, 05:01

Quote:

Originally Posted by Retrofan

So... 22€ to have 8Mb (perfect) and 3,276,800 bytes/secs (like PIO II or something with a Fast ATA).

An accelerator card is required also...

Retrofan · 30 August 2013, 05:05

Quote:

Originally Posted by ShK

An accelerator card is required also...

Don't worry. I've just bought both items of my last post. I will use them with my slowest A1200 miggy with an ACA1231/42.

Edit: Which one did you use?

ShK · 30 August 2013, 05:29

Quote:

Originally Posted by Retrofan

Which one did you use?

I'm not sure what you're asking, but my compo is A1200 + ACA-1231/42 + HDD kit adaptor + Compact Flash Adapter + SANDISK SD CLASS 10 + PFS3 All-in-One.

Retrofan · 30 August 2013, 06:13

Quote:

Originally Posted by ShK

I'm not sure what you're asking, but my compo is A1200 + ACA-1231/42 + HDD kit adaptor + Compact Flash Adapter + SANDISK SD CLASS 10 + PFS3 All-in-One.

Thanks. I see your HD has 95Mb/s !!!!. But I doubt the miggy will take advantadge over 30Mb/s of mine.

ShK · 30 August 2013, 06:21

I'm not sure where the line goes, but class 4 card's speed is not sufficient.

Schoenfeld · 30 August 2013, 09:42

The "which card and which adapter" topic is off-topic here - please move that to a different thread, thank you (apart from plain wrong things that I've read, like "one CF->IDE adapter is faster than the other).

New standoff idea that also holds CF cards in place - currently trying to find a company that will make this at an affordable price.

Jens

dJOS · 30 August 2013, 09:49

Quote:

Originally Posted by Schoenfeld

New standoff idea that also holds CF cards in place - currently trying to find a company that will make this at an affordable price.

Jens

Good idea, perhaps it might be easier to intergrate that into a plastic case?

30 August 2013, 04:06	#947
Retrofan Ruler of the Universe Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: Lanzarote/Spain Posts: 6,185	ShK very interesting info, and impressive speed . Ebay linky for the "Extreme CF Adapter"? Edit: This? http://www.ebay.es/itm/Extreme-Compa...2d7940a&_uhb=1 Edit 2: And I'm awaiting -long time- the right time to ask for a "new product for Amiga from Individual Computers": a new Idefix card with more or less 10MB/s speed. Last edited by Retrofan; 30 August 2013 at 04:25.

30 August 2013, 04:30	#950
Retrofan Ruler of the Universe Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: Lanzarote/Spain Posts: 6,185	Thanks Edit: Well, I guess this better (10,79€ against 30€): http://www.ebay.es/itm/MicroSD-to-CF...73e35a6&_uhb=1 Edit: And this for the card (11€ against 22€) : http://www.ebay.es/itm/8GB-SanDisk-E...ed7dc75&_uhb=1 So... 22€ to have 8Gb (perfect) and 3,276,800 bytes/secs (like PIO II or something with a Fast ATA). Last edited by Retrofan; 07 September 2013 at 20:16.

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Schoenfeld electricky. Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: out in the wild Posts: 1,256	The "which card and which adapter" topic is off-topic here - please move that to a different thread, thank you (apart from plain wrong things that I've read, like "one CF->IDE adapter is faster than the other). New standoff idea that also holds CF cards in place - currently trying to find a company that will make this at an affordable price. Jens Attached Thumbnails

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29 August 2013, 21:05	#941
jbenam Italian Amiga Zealot Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Italy Age: 36 Posts: 1,911	Jens, sorry for being a bit silly in asking this but... Considering we're in 2013 (and 2014 is near) and CFs are getting harder to find by the day, wouldn't have been more future-proof to equip the ACA500 with two SD slots, instead of CF? I know that CF is ATA compliant, but there are a lot of SD-to-IDE converters around, and they seem to work pretty well even if SD isn't ATA compliant natively.

29 August 2013, 23:26	#943
amiga1260 Registered User Join Date: Aug 2013 Location: Gennep/The Netherlands Posts: 66	Thank you for your reply. I hope this card will work.

30 August 2013, 04:06	#946
dJOS Registered User Join Date: Aug 2012 Location: Melbourne, Australia Posts: 888	That's surprisingly fast compared to my a1200+aca1220, I'm only getting 1,481,039 with a sandisk 30mb/s 4gb cf card.

30 August 2013, 04:28	#949
ShK Registered User Join Date: Mar 2013 Location: Lahti / Finland Age: 52 Posts: 447

30 August 2013, 04:37	#951
ShK Registered User Join Date: Mar 2013 Location: Lahti / Finland Age: 52 Posts: 447	It was just an example. I recall that my adapter cost a little more than 10€ in the this spring.

30 August 2013, 04:40	#952
ShK Registered User Join Date: Mar 2013 Location: Lahti / Finland Age: 52 Posts: 447	Note that you will also need a high-speed SD card for the writing. http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...m=221113861593

30 August 2013, 04:54	#953
ShK Registered User Join Date: Mar 2013 Location: Lahti / Finland Age: 52 Posts: 447	A small off-topic, but the cf HDD kit adaptor is little bit faster than IDE 44pin > SD Card adaptor with the same SD-card.

30 August 2013, 06:21	#958
ShK Registered User Join Date: Mar 2013 Location: Lahti / Finland Age: 52 Posts: 447	I'm not sure where the line goes, but class 4 card's speed is not sufficient.

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