01 August 2016, 19:18 | #1 |
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Installing PAL capability onto my NTSC A500
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How would I be able to install a PAL module (switch?) onto my NTSC A500 (non ESC, original Chipsea), in order to be able to view most PAL Mega Demos properly? Please refer to this thread: http://eab.abime.net/showthread.php?...55#post1102655 How would I do this? |
02 August 2016, 02:41 | #2 |
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NTSC OCS Amiga models are not well suited to run PAL games, even if you switched your NTSC Agnus for a PAL one, the frequency would still be off and you might have issues with some demos which require cycle precise synchronization.
Ideally you would need to switch both Agnus and your main frequency generating crystal (and possibly Denise but I am not sure of that one) in order to have a real PAL machine. This is possible but might be quite convoluted, do you have any experience with soldering? |
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I had lots of NTSC Amigas and would swith to PAL mode and ALL PAL games and demos would work 100%, especially if I had a good monitor that would display PAL mode. (With Fatter 1MB Agnus) I use a boxy Commodore 1084S-P monitor and it does PAL/NTSC flawlessly. |
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02 August 2016, 16:29 | #5 |
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Only revision 8.
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And rev 6, too (Fat Agnus 8372A)
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8372A isn't ECS.
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02 August 2016, 18:12 | #8 |
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It is! Done the 1 MB mod to my rev6 mobo.
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http://www.bigbookofamigahardware.co..._rev8a1_1_.jpg Some early A500+ owners got shafted with odd configs, with C= populating rev. 8 motherboards with, say, KS2.x and 512K chipram + OCS (instead of 1MB chip + ECS!) Always worth popping the hood on an A500 and checking (just coz it's made by C=, of course!)......you never know what trash 'n' treasure you may find inside a seemingly boring old standard A500! Last edited by DrBong; 02 August 2016 at 20:29. |
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8372A is ECS Agnus, so is 8375. Size of max supported chip RAM is irrelevant. ECS = has new and extended ECS custom registers.
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Yes, I ran my A500, Apollo520, WB2.1 on ECS Productivity 640x480 @ 60 Hz - just 4 colours but nice and flicker free workbench. Then craziness hit me and got Micronik tower and Blizzard 2060 + PicassoII+/CVision64/3D/PicassoIV etc...
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http://www.amiga.org/forums/showthread.php?t=35082 http://www.bigbookofamigahardware.co...t.aspx?id=1478 @c0dehunter Here's a link that might be helpful re: running PAL demos on NTSC A500s....... http://ada.untergrund.net/?p=boardthread&id=321 |
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I stand corrected. I've only seen 8375 or 8372AB in ECS chipset machines.
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The CDTV uses 8372A and has ECS chipset.
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Use Degrader or the NTSC and PAL programs I mentioned in another thread.
Or run AmigaBASIC and type (I think, I didn't try this): pokew 14676444,32 and then pokew 14676444,0 If you see any change to the Amiga display you have the ECS Agnus chip. (Those poke commands change to PAL and NTSC mode respectively.) Last edited by mark_k; 07 August 2016 at 00:58. Reason: It's pokew not poke |
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http://obligement.free.fr/documents/ami_beg.txt Anyway, the upshot is that you need to know whether you have an A500 that is capable of changing to PAL before considering something like installing a PAL switcher. Even if you do, it might be better to go the software degrader route as PAL switchers are not as straightforward to rig up on A500s with revision 5 motherboards or lower. |
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Download the commands "NTSC" and "PAL" here and put them in C: then run them from the CLI
http://www.memphisamigagroup.net/dis...2-02/NTSC-PAL/ BootPAL can be used to reboot into PAL mode for NDOS game or demo discs! |
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You guys are amazing! No wonder Amiga is still alive, it is due to the effort of guy like you that it has been kept alive!
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