Cinemawares Sinbad Image is a CRACK! - Page 3

wanderer · 26 April 2006, 02:11

Atrociously late... let us know if you get a reply DamienD, ok? It sure rocks talking about Sinbad 20 years later... or not...?

DamienD · 26 April 2006, 17:38

No replies on the Cinemaware forum as yet

Found some more Atari ST screen shots though: http://www.atarilegend.com/games/gam...php?game_id=29

Dizzy · 26 April 2006, 19:21

well mobygames also have some screenshots http://www.mobygames.com/game/atari-...on/screenshots for Dos and ST

DamienD · 26 April 2006, 19:24

Hmmm, all the screenshots from the various systems posted so far are nowhere near as good as the ones originally posted by DDNI...

The only system that we don't have screenshots for is the Apple IIgs. I'm not saying they are definitely from the Apple IIgs though, I don't even know what that computer is capable of...

Maybe Belgarath is correct

Quote:

Originally Posted by Belgarath

I don't believe so..It looks like they could be conceptual art for some other unreleased version. The best thing to do is email Cinemaware and hope they reply (and know what they're talking about)

The mystery continues...

Dizzy · 26 April 2006, 19:41

Quote:

Originally Posted by DamienD

The only system that we don't have screenshots for is the Apple IIgs. I'm not saying they are definitely from the Apple IIgs though, I don't even know what that computer is capable of...

Quote:

Originally Posted by DamienD

Here's some Apple IIgs screenshots, trying to find more...

http://www.whatisthe2gs.apple2.org.z...es/sinbad.html

demoniac · 26 April 2006, 21:04

I have the Apple IIgs images, BTW. I remembered that it being different from the Atari ST in color and music.

DamienD · 26 April 2006, 21:08

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dizzy

So I did, can't keep up with myself, ROFL... I'm going crazy with all this screenshot hunting

Thanks for pointing that out. I should edit my post or just leave it there for a laugh

DamienD · 26 April 2006, 21:10

Quote:

Originally Posted by demoniac

I have the Apple IIgs images, BTW. I remembered that it being different from the Atari ST in color and music.

Do they look like the ones DDNI posted?

Let's have 'em then son

demoniac · 26 April 2006, 21:12

I didn't play them as I wanted to complete the Amiga version first.

Quote:

Let's have 'em then son

I do it later, mom.

Dizzy · 26 April 2006, 21:23

just found this site http://www.thehouseofgames.net/index.php?t=10&id=55

oh an this ST site http://www.users.zetnet.co.uk/zogginhell/st000010.html

wanderer · 26 April 2006, 23:07

From all these screenshots, it's even more tempting to assume that someone at Cinemaware seriously disliked the Amiga version. Quote from the aforementioned www.thehouseofgames.net:

" This version looks so INCREDIBLY UTTERLY bad that I rechecked a couple of times that this actually came from an actual company and not some fan who made it at home. It's not like the others at all and you should check out this version just to see how bad it really is. "

I'll never cease to be amazed at the fact that so many people still throw dirt at the Amiga version. The gfx are great, the sound design and music are great and it plays great as well. From all of Cinemaware's titles, this the one closest to It Came From the Desert in terms of depth, design, atmosphere and overall quality. Bad graphics? Please...it was 1987 !!

DamienD · 26 April 2006, 23:21

Sorry wanderer, I have to disagree with you...

As said from the beginning, even though C64 version is not as good graphically as the Amiga version (not far off though, LOL) it's far superior in terms of extra gameplay etc. If the Atari ST or Apple IIgs versions have the same gameplay as the C64 version yet are better graphics then they will kick the Amiga version's butt...

It's a real shame though. I love the Amiga, just wish they made this game better than what it was / is. There was so much wasted potential

BTW I love "It Came From The Desert" on the Amiga

wanderer · 26 April 2006, 23:31

Haven't played other versions (yet) but still, they strike me as completely different games, which makes it hard for me to compare them as 'versions'.

wanderer · 26 April 2006, 23:34

Quote:

Originally Posted by DamienD

...BTW I love "It Came From The Desert" on the Amiga

One of the best games ever !

wanderer · 26 April 2006, 23:35

Quote:

Originally Posted by DamienD

...BTW I love "It Came From The Desert" on the Amiga

One of the best games/interactive movies ever !

DamienD · 27 April 2006, 00:06

In fact I do love all Amiga Cinemaware games, especially:

... Defender of the Crown 1 / 2
... It Came From The Desert 1 / 2
... Lords of the Rising Sun
... Rocket Ranger
... Three Stoogers
... TV Sports Basketball / Football
... Wings

Edit: notice I left Sinbad and the Thrown of the Falcon off the "top" list. There's a reason for that

Sorry, I'll stop hassling you now. No offence my friend. It's not your fault that you played the Amiga version first and that's your guideline

demoniac · 27 April 2006, 01:38

Quote:

Three Stoogers

Nice....

sarek2k · 27 April 2006, 04:14

I loved defender of the crown and Wings but defender of the crown i first played on a c64 and then Atari ST i didn't really like the Amiga version because at the time i only had built in disk drive and it used to keep asking for the 2nd disk which i hated, any game that pops up with generic workbench style insert 2nd disk looks ugly and spoils the game!

However Wings was AWESOME i can still hum those tunes in my head to this day and whoops the accidental shot at my wing man wasn't meant to hurt him just stop him shooting down all my targets

I also had rocket ranger on the Atari ST liked the concept just couldnt get into the game same goes for Tvsports football i had 4th and inches on the c64 and could execute a few of the moves like shotgun etc but the rest was a complete fucking mystery!

I loved the concept of Lord of the rising sun but it was a stratergy game and too deep for me at the time i liked mostly arcade games thats why i got the Amiga

I tried the remakes of Defender of the crown on PC and Xbox and could not get into either
i also tried the full remake on the pc too not the downloadable remake of the original the thing that spoilt it for me was when you where invading a castle you had your cattapult and on the c64/st versions u had markers on the catapult where to fire to knock down the wall and then fire in your greek fire/poison shots etc but they aren't present on any of the remakes so you just have to take pot luck also the jousting is harder too as is the sword fighting!

All in all spoilt remakes all round!
and as for Click Team that was a farce from start to finish as pointed out in other threads on EAB a case of worker exploitation, being paid or not paid on the cheap and no final product that was any good anyway!

Just to tie in with this actuall forum subject i never saw sinbad tho a m8 did have it

@DamienD i had to actually write all this off line because of the modem prob you know about

demoniac · 27 April 2006, 05:14

I have uploaded Sinbad Apple IIgs for those who wanted to compare it to the Amiga version.

DDNI · 27 April 2006, 07:32

Quote:

Originally Posted by demoniac

I have uploaded Sinbad Apple IIgs for those who wanted to compare it to the Amiga version.

Thanks, but getting a working emulator is a biatch

26 April 2006, 21:23	#50
Dizzy Pirate Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Denmark Posts: 3,395	just found this site http://www.thehouseofgames.net/index.php?t=10&id=55 oh an this ST site http://www.users.zetnet.co.uk/zogginhell/st000010.html Last edited by Dizzy; 26 April 2006 at 21:28.

27 April 2006, 00:06	#56
DamienD Banned Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: London / Sydney Age: 47 Posts: 20,420	In fact I do love all Amiga Cinemaware games, especially: ... Defender of the Crown 1 / 2 ... It Came From The Desert 1 / 2 ... Lords of the Rising Sun ... Rocket Ranger ... Three Stoogers ... TV Sports Basketball / Football ... Wings Edit: notice I left Sinbad and the Thrown of the Falcon off the "top" list. There's a reason for that Sorry, I'll stop hassling you now. No offence my friend. It's not your fault that you played the Amiga version first and that's your guideline Last edited by DamienD; 27 April 2006 at 00:12.

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26 April 2006, 02:11	#41
wanderer I want an A1000 Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Pac-Land Posts: 738	Atrociously late... let us know if you get a reply DamienD, ok? It sure rocks talking about Sinbad 20 years later... or not...?

26 April 2006, 17:38	#42
DamienD Banned Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: London / Sydney Age: 47 Posts: 20,420	No replies on the Cinemaware forum as yet Found some more Atari ST screen shots though: http://www.atarilegend.com/games/gam...php?game_id=29

26 April 2006, 19:21	#43
Dizzy Pirate Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Denmark Posts: 3,395	well mobygames also have some screenshots http://www.mobygames.com/game/atari-...on/screenshots for Dos and ST

26 April 2006, 21:04	#46
demoniac Registered User Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: - Posts: 1,687	I have the Apple IIgs images, BTW. I remembered that it being different from the Atari ST in color and music.

26 April 2006, 23:07	#51
wanderer I want an A1000 Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Pac-Land Posts: 738	From all these screenshots, it's even more tempting to assume that someone at Cinemaware seriously disliked the Amiga version. Quote from the aforementioned www.thehouseofgames.net: " This version looks so INCREDIBLY UTTERLY bad that I rechecked a couple of times that this actually came from an actual company and not some fan who made it at home. It's not like the others at all and you should check out this version just to see how bad it really is. " I'll never cease to be amazed at the fact that so many people still throw dirt at the Amiga version. The gfx are great, the sound design and music are great and it plays great as well. From all of Cinemaware's titles, this the one closest to It Came From the Desert in terms of depth, design, atmosphere and overall quality. Bad graphics? Please...it was 1987 !!

26 April 2006, 23:21	#52
DamienD Banned Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: London / Sydney Age: 47 Posts: 20,420	Sorry wanderer, I have to disagree with you... As said from the beginning, even though C64 version is not as good graphically as the Amiga version (not far off though, LOL) it's far superior in terms of extra gameplay etc. If the Atari ST or Apple IIgs versions have the same gameplay as the C64 version yet are better graphics then they will kick the Amiga version's butt... It's a real shame though. I love the Amiga, just wish they made this game better than what it was / is. There was so much wasted potential BTW I love "It Came From The Desert" on the Amiga

26 April 2006, 23:31	#53
wanderer I want an A1000 Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Pac-Land Posts: 738	Haven't played other versions (yet) but still, they strike me as completely different games, which makes it hard for me to compare them as 'versions'.

27 April 2006, 04:14	#58
sarek2k E.A.B Addict and Proud Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: England Age: 56 Posts: 543	I loved defender of the crown and Wings but defender of the crown i first played on a c64 and then Atari ST i didn't really like the Amiga version because at the time i only had built in disk drive and it used to keep asking for the 2nd disk which i hated, any game that pops up with generic workbench style insert 2nd disk looks ugly and spoils the game! However Wings was AWESOME i can still hum those tunes in my head to this day and whoops the accidental shot at my wing man wasn't meant to hurt him just stop him shooting down all my targets I also had rocket ranger on the Atari ST liked the concept just couldnt get into the game same goes for Tvsports football i had 4th and inches on the c64 and could execute a few of the moves like shotgun etc but the rest was a complete fucking mystery! I loved the concept of Lord of the rising sun but it was a stratergy game and too deep for me at the time i liked mostly arcade games thats why i got the Amiga I tried the remakes of Defender of the crown on PC and Xbox and could not get into either i also tried the full remake on the pc too not the downloadable remake of the original the thing that spoilt it for me was when you where invading a castle you had your cattapult and on the c64/st versions u had markers on the catapult where to fire to knock down the wall and then fire in your greek fire/poison shots etc but they aren't present on any of the remakes so you just have to take pot luck also the jousting is harder too as is the sword fighting! All in all spoilt remakes all round! and as for Click Team that was a farce from start to finish as pointed out in other threads on EAB a case of worker exploitation, being paid or not paid on the cheap and no final product that was any good anyway! Just to tie in with this actuall forum subject i never saw sinbad tho a m8 did have it @DamienD i had to actually write all this off line because of the modem prob you know about

27 April 2006, 05:14	#59
demoniac Registered User Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: - Posts: 1,687	I have uploaded Sinbad Apple IIgs for those who wanted to compare it to the Amiga version.

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