Introducing ACA 1221 Low Cost Accelerator At AmigaKit.com

[FOL]

Originally Posted by beezle

Isn't the "market" flooded with low end hardware already?

I don't mean to be negative, but each new a1200 accelerator is more boring than the last in recent times.

Or do people really only use their a1200's as whdload machines?
Seems a waste.

You would be suprised, lots of users always used their machines for games when they were kids.

[Jope]

Originally Posted by beezle

Or do people really only use their a1200's as whdload machines?
Seems a waste.

Based on what I've seen happen around me and on various retro/vintage computing forums, this is the reason why people get back to these.

The diminishing minority of us were "power users" back in the day. Just about everyone had an unexpanded A500/600/1200 as a games machine in those times.

[dJOS]

As a poor student I had an a500 with 512k expansion and external floppy drive that I bought in about 92. I'd have loved a hdd but they where insanely expensive.

[wilshy]

I give full credit to all involved for producing this. Far too much negativity here. Also I suspect AmigaKit know their market fairly well after all these years and actually this forum represents the minority of Amiga users. There's a whole load more outside of this little garden of Amiga

I could well be up for buying one as my current board is slightly flakey even though my Amiga is almost solely a Whdload machine these days. Not a waste to me. It's used regularly, I enjoy it, Amiga power using days are long behind me.

Good work all at Individual & AmigaKit.

[Marmes]

Most people want the amiga to run games with whdload, so this is more than enough, enough memory to run WB and whdload. It's the cheapest way to get things running.

[kolla]

Yeah, my sentiment too, if WHDLoad is the goal, then I probably have a handfull of systems capable, and I have yet to install WHDLoad on any if them. I see Jens say that the ACA630 sold too slowly, but honestly, it sold out before I managed to get one. Or maybe that was a different ACA630.

Originally Posted by Marmes

Most people want the amiga to run games with whdload, so this is more than enough, enough memory to run WB and whdload. It's the cheapest way to get things running.

UAE is cheaper.

[modrobert]

Originally Posted by wilshy

Far too much negativity here. Also I suspect AmigaKit know their market fairly well after all these years and actually this forum represents the minority of Amiga users. There's a whole load more outside of this little garden of Amiga

I for one am proud to be a member of EAB, minority or not, how about you?

[SilentBob]

I don't get the underclock to 9.46 MHz part. On the PC back in the old days it made sense to underclock because really old software ran too fast. But this doesn't seem to ever have been a problem on the Amiga.

[Schoenfeld]

Originally Posted by SilentBob

I don't get the underclock to 9.46 MHz part. On the PC back in the old days it made sense to underclock because really old software ran too fast. But this doesn't seem to ever have been a problem on the Amiga.

It's only a few titles, mainly A500 floppy games that run too fast on an A1200. Remember Kefrens Desert Dream? On a too-fast computer, the missile flies *through* the "melon" ship, and explodes way later. And I haven't even tried that title on the ACA1221 yet...

9.46MHz is the slowest that the ACA1221 runs safe at, and since clock rates can be switched on the fly, it also helps saving power and reducing heat. We have a "CPU govenor" program that watches the CPU load and dynamically switches between clock rates. If the CPU is idle, it's clocked down to 9.46MHz, and if you give it some load, it'll crank up to the highest frequency that your card is licensed for (up to 28.38MHz).

You're right that most WHDload games have been fixed to run on faster machines. With the ACA1221 being meant for building WHDload machines, the feature appears like mental masturbation. Maybe it is - I'm an Amigan, and "because we can" has always been a good answer to technical specialties like this :-)

Jens

[Lord Aga]

Why do people complain about having more choices and features ?
If someone likes/needs something - he can use it.
If someone doesn't like/need something - he can ignore it.

[Dejavu]

Hi Jens,

Can you share some information about ACA500 Plus?

[CrashMidnick]

Jens, I do not know if it has been already asked but... Are the cpu's socketed ?

[Schoenfeld]

The CPUs of the ACA1221 are of course NOT in a socket, as the sockets would cost more than the CPUs.

ACA500plus is in development - No detailed information, as the featureset is not fully clear yet. Same applies to the ACA1221EC.

Jens

[Akiko]

Originally Posted by Schoenfeld

The CPUs of the ACA1221 are of course NOT in a socket, as the sockets would cost more than the CPUs.

ACA500plus is in development - No detailed information, as the featureset is not fully clear yet. Same applies to the ACA1221EC.

Jens

Any remote possibilty exist for a future CD32 expansion, perhaps something similar to ACA500 that accepts ACA1221 type accelerators?

[eXeler0]

Maybe someone could simply(?) do a CD32 184pin --> ACA500 adapter. ;-)

[Schoenfeld]

It's not that simple, but I've thought of that a number of times. It's possible, it's not too complicated, but I already have a pretty full schedule. ACA500plus and Amiga Reloaded have much higher priority.

Jens

[Hewitson]

Originally Posted by Schoenfeld

21MHz overclock is 5,- EUR
28MHz overclock is 15,- EUR
Maprom is 5,- EUR
9MB->17MB upgrade is 8,- EUR
9MB->33MB upgrade is 15,- EUR
9MB->63MB upgrade is 22,- EUR

[Leffmann]

The thing with these deals, that seem great to the unsuspecting customer, is that the lowest base price has already paid for the full hardware with everything enabled, with profit margins. Anything you pay to activate more features is just extra profit.

[eXeler0]

Originally Posted by Leffmann

The thing with these deals, that seem great to the unsuspecting customer, is that the lowest base price has already paid for the full hardware with everything enabled, with profit margins. Anything you pay to activate more features is just extra profit.

I really dont understand why some ppl reason this way - like they get cheated somehow... this "logic" has already been shot down a number of times in this forum so plz feel free to browse around...

Two topics earlier:

Originally Posted by crazyc

I just saw a blizzard 1230 mk4 go for over £300 on ebay. The world has gone nuts.

Saw it too. In this case, I don't have much of a choice.