[Ongoing] Blob Attack II - Page 2

Nekoniaow · 17 January 2015, 08:03

Quote:

Originally Posted by Arne

Alright, I will try unmounting then.

As for the Gosubs, I'm indeed hellbent. How could it be Gosub Invasion if I use Procedures?

AMOS' IDE/editor is pretty bad at presenting readable code. It despaces and ALLCAPS like mad, and no color coding. I've survived this far because of my naming conventions and having the structures fresh in my head. Oddly enough I've had no mistyped variables causing bugs, otherwise that's pretty common in BASIC. Guessing the game is at 40% now with most of it being in the engine department. I've been eating the frogs as they appear so right now I feel like I have some easy implementations ahead.

Your determination is admirable.
I keep requesting that the teams I work with invest massively more in tooling but I now feel totally privileged when I picture you going through AMOS hell.

Keep it up!

Arne · 17 January 2015, 20:45

Cover sketch:

Arne · 17 January 2015, 23:47

Actual screenshot with some debug junk showing. I kept the map plain with just walls and floor, but later I will be adding some furnishings of course.

Teleporters/Spawners now birthing. Next up is blob charge and Troop shooting, both requiring some simple LoS code (just X or Y). Shooting will be complicated by the need for explosions/death anim overlays later, as well as the 7 weapon types.

Arne · 18 January 2015, 18:16

Almost unrelated: I'm thinking of remapping my WB icon colour palette to the end of the 16 colour palette, keep the first 2-4 colours variable for WB theme'ing (BG,TXT,Borders,etc). I haven't really looked into Birdie and Visual Prefs much.

A while ago I started writing (not using Gosubs) a folder traverser which examines files (first 16 bytes) and gives them an icon. I also made a icon thumbnailer for IFF files. But I don't want to run it until I've solved the palette problem (vanilla WB 3.1).

Arne · 22 January 2015, 23:40

Well, I wanted to make an icon for the game and took a bit of a detour, made a nearly whole 3.1 set.

4+12 colors where the first 4 can be variable, but now I'm unsure how to set a 16 color palette in 16 color mode. I don't know how the dynamic colors work. Apparently colors can be locked and stuff. Looked at some programs but they seemed bloated and wouldn't install properly. Maybe I can hack the palette.prefs file? Looks like it contains only 8 color defs on my 16 color setup. OldIcons sort of worked for getting rid of icon-borders.

Marcuz · 22 January 2015, 23:57

Can I just say that this is the most beautiful set of WB icons I have ever seen after the original one?
Plus, good luck on your game!

Tsak · 23 January 2015, 19:55

Hi guys!

I've created a small testing mockup screen, using Arne's sprites and UI, just to see how well the game would look like with fully tiled floors instead of plain black. I also wanted to test the game's 16color palette and see what results I could come up with when using it for creating tilestets and other gfx.
I'm quite happy to see this result now.

Unfortunately, to achieve it I had to change the tile size from 12x12 to 14x14 to give some room for the sprite's outlines and (possible) shadows. So it's unlikely for this to happen anytime soon -if ever- unless the size is indeed changed or sprites undergo some drastic makeover to include the outlines.

Even if not, judging from those early screens Arne had shared with us, I'm quite positive that the his final outcome will still be top-notch!

Once more, great job!

kriz · 23 January 2015, 23:21

So cool iconset and artwork, woah !! Game is shaping up well,. looking forward to try this

s2325 · 24 January 2015, 12:50

If you need music for your game maybe you can use liquid_-_space_funk.mod or space_city.mod from modarchive.org

Arne · 26 January 2015, 02:27

I think I need 3 channel music so I can use a channel for interactive feedback (i.e. effects). Thinking something along the lines of X-COM, often lacking melody and with a very slow tempo, minimalistic changes over many patters. Might be able to whip something up myself.

I'm still derailed as I decided quite randomly to write a dumper for robo city... or ROBO WONDER as some message in the data says. Could not find the palette data but I saw what looked like tables. I suppose they store the entries as $HHH dwords with quirky endian or something. Would disassemble it but that's beyond my talents. DP stores entries as RGB888 but it this demo was made in 86 or something, which is why I decided to see if they had stored the image data raw, which they had. BG is stored twice and the two frames alternate (double buffer? Could be used for light strobe fx). I wrote a gfx replacer which works but I think I need the palette offsets to really make it go. It converts this 24b image now, using the palette strips for indexing.

Edit: found the palette at Offset ~6k and 3k.

Raislin77it · 17 October 2015, 02:52

Quote:

Originally Posted by Arne

Actual screenshot with some debug junk showing. I kept the map plain with just walls and floor, but later I will be adding some furnishings of course.

Teleporters/Spawners now birthing. Next up is blob charge and Troop shooting, both requiring some simple LoS code (just X or Y). Shooting will be complicated by the need for explosions/death anim overlays later, as well as the 7 weapon types.

just a bump

any news of the game?

Amiga1992 · 20 October 2015, 17:04

I love this, and the icon set!
I hope you haven't lost interest in finishing this game.

Lonewolf10 · 25 October 2015, 00:13

Agreed, the graphics look great. News report please

ReadOnlyCat · 25 October 2015, 02:04

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lonewolf10

Agreed, the graphics look great. News report please

I guess the absence of news alas means Arne hasn't had a chance yet to work again on it.

Arne, I hope you will be able to pursue this project further, it looks really promising. Have you already worked up the game mechanics or are you still exploring gameplay ideas?

Raislin77it · 03 March 2016, 23:19

bump again

Any news ? ?

Overflow · 04 March 2016, 00:06

First time Ive read about this game, and it looks REALLY nice

Leffmann · 04 March 2016, 18:45

Some really good-looking graphics there. I hope you finish the game!

Raislin77it · 22 September 2016, 00:29

Quote:

Originally Posted by Raislin77it

bump again

Any news ? ?

mega bump again

any news ?

Tigerskunk · 22 September 2016, 10:44

Amazing gfx style and the icon set is godly...

Hopefully this game will get finished...

Raislin77it · 12 July 2017, 16:06

a year later..........

bump

22 January 2015, 23:40	#25
Arne Hobby/Indie gamedev Join Date: Jan 2015 Location: Southern Sweden Posts: 110	Well, I wanted to make an icon for the game and took a bit of a detour, made a nearly whole 3.1 set. 4+12 colors where the first 4 can be variable, but now I'm unsure how to set a 16 color palette in 16 color mode. I don't know how the dynamic colors work. Apparently colors can be locked and stuff. Looked at some programs but they seemed bloated and wouldn't install properly. Maybe I can hack the palette.prefs file? Looks like it contains only 8 color defs on my 16 color setup. OldIcons sort of worked for getting rid of icon-borders. Last edited by Arne; 23 January 2015 at 01:01.

26 January 2015, 02:27	#30
Arne Hobby/Indie gamedev Join Date: Jan 2015 Location: Southern Sweden Posts: 110	I think I need 3 channel music so I can use a channel for interactive feedback (i.e. effects). Thinking something along the lines of X-COM, often lacking melody and with a very slow tempo, minimalistic changes over many patters. Might be able to whip something up myself. I'm still derailed as I decided quite randomly to write a dumper for robo city... or ROBO WONDER as some message in the data says. Could not find the palette data but I saw what looked like tables. I suppose they store the entries as $HHH dwords with quirky endian or something. Would disassemble it but that's beyond my talents. DP stores entries as RGB888 but it this demo was made in 86 or something, which is why I decided to see if they had stored the image data raw, which they had. BG is stored twice and the two frames alternate (double buffer? Could be used for light strobe fx). I wrote a gfx replacer which works but I think I need the palette offsets to really make it go. It converts this 24b image now, using the palette strips for indexing. Edit: found the palette at Offset ~6k and 3k. Last edited by Arne; 27 January 2015 at 04:27. Reason: thanks typoramabama

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17 January 2015, 20:45	#22
Arne Hobby/Indie gamedev Join Date: Jan 2015 Location: Southern Sweden Posts: 110	Cover sketch:

17 January 2015, 23:47	#23
Arne Hobby/Indie gamedev Join Date: Jan 2015 Location: Southern Sweden Posts: 110	Actual screenshot with some debug junk showing. I kept the map plain with just walls and floor, but later I will be adding some furnishings of course. Teleporters/Spawners now birthing. Next up is blob charge and Troop shooting, both requiring some simple LoS code (just X or Y). Shooting will be complicated by the need for explosions/death anim overlays later, as well as the 7 weapon types.

18 January 2015, 18:16	#24
Arne Hobby/Indie gamedev Join Date: Jan 2015 Location: Southern Sweden Posts: 110	Almost unrelated: I'm thinking of remapping my WB icon colour palette to the end of the 16 colour palette, keep the first 2-4 colours variable for WB theme'ing (BG,TXT,Borders,etc). I haven't really looked into Birdie and Visual Prefs much. A while ago I started writing (not using Gosubs) a folder traverser which examines files (first 16 bytes) and gives them an icon. I also made a icon thumbnailer for IFF files. But I don't want to run it until I've solved the palette problem (vanilla WB 3.1).

22 January 2015, 23:57	#26
Marcuz Registered User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: . Age: 48 Posts: 5,562	Can I just say that this is the most beautiful set of WB icons I have ever seen after the original one? Plus, good luck on your game!

23 January 2015, 19:55	#27
Tsak Pixelglass/Reimagine Join Date: Jun 2012 Location: Athens Posts: 1,031	Hi guys! I've created a small testing mockup screen, using Arne's sprites and UI, just to see how well the game would look like with fully tiled floors instead of plain black. I also wanted to test the game's 16color palette and see what results I could come up with when using it for creating tilestets and other gfx. I'm quite happy to see this result now. Unfortunately, to achieve it I had to change the tile size from 12x12 to 14x14 to give some room for the sprite's outlines and (possible) shadows. So it's unlikely for this to happen anytime soon -if ever- unless the size is indeed changed or sprites undergo some drastic makeover to include the outlines. Even if not, judging from those early screens Arne had shared with us, I'm quite positive that the his final outcome will still be top-notch! Once more, great job!

23 January 2015, 23:21	#28
kriz Junior Member Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: No(R)Way Age: 41 Posts: 3,185	So cool iconset and artwork, woah !! Game is shaping up well,. looking forward to try this

24 January 2015, 12:50	#29
s2325 Zone Friend Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Gargore Age: 43 Posts: 17,789	If you need music for your game maybe you can use liquid_-_space_funk.mod or space_city.mod from modarchive.org

20 October 2015, 17:04	#32
Amiga1992 Registered User Join Date: May 2001 Location: ? Posts: 19,645	I love this, and the icon set! I hope you haven't lost interest in finishing this game.

25 October 2015, 00:13	#33
Lonewolf10 AMOS Extensions Developer Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: near Cambridge, UK Age: 44 Posts: 1,924	Agreed, the graphics look great. News report please

03 March 2016, 23:19	#35
Raislin77it Zone Friend Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: italy Age: 46 Posts: 244	bump again Any news ? ?

04 March 2016, 00:06	#36
Overflow Registered User Join Date: Nov 2014 Location: Norway Posts: 387	First time Ive read about this game, and it looks REALLY nice

04 March 2016, 18:45	#37
Leffmann Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Sweden Posts: 2,269	Some really good-looking graphics there. I hope you finish the game!

22 September 2016, 10:44	#39
Tigerskunk Inviyya Dude! Join Date: Sep 2016 Location: Amiga Island Posts: 2,770	Amazing gfx style and the icon set is godly... Hopefully this game will get finished...

12 July 2017, 16:06	#40
Raislin77it Zone Friend Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: italy Age: 46 Posts: 244	a year later.......... bump

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