FlashFloppy - new firmware for Gotek drives, open source - Page 41

Sinphaltimus · 22 February 2018, 13:09

I'm not sure I understand what this is about entirely

I'm on 0.9.8.a and have 8x16 selected in the cfg. My display looks fine.

(see attached)

And now that I did a very closeup pic, I see I should probably clean it next time before posting. Sorry.

But anyway, am I missing a specific point here?

Perhaps this is about the next version of the FW?

Mq · 22 February 2018, 13:11

Quote:

Originally Posted by kaffer

I am about to implement "display-type=oled-128x32-narrow" to specify smaller working area. That will give 18cpr (6x13 font). Full-width display gives 21cpr.

I like it. It's very good evolution direction of the FF:-)

BarryB · 22 February 2018, 16:07

OK, managed to loosely Heath Robinson my Gotek into my +3 (Thanks Akira) and Flashed latest FF 0.9.9a (Thanks Keir) used configless mode and while it powers up and seems to run OK, having mixed results with certain DSK images although disk swaps worked flawlessly! All DSK images I tried also load and play fine in Spectaculator!

Copy protections identified using Disk Image Manager v0.5 and v2.0 from DamienG on github

Images tried that work:

Arcade Muscle - Both Side A/B images load and run all games, Alkatraz +3 protection!
APB - Loads and runs, Players protection!
Arkanoid - The Revenge Of DOH - Loads and runs, Speedlock +3 1988 protection!
Best Of Elite Vol 2 - Both Side A/B images load and run all games, Speedlock +3 1988 protection!
Beverly Hills Cop - Loads and runs, no protection!
Chart Busters - Both Side A/B images load and run all games, unknown protection!
Chase H.Q. - Loads and runs, Paul Owens protection!
Live Ammo - Both Side A/B images load and run all games, unknown protection!
Microprose Soccer - loads and runs, unknown protection!
The Fury - Loads and runs, Speedlock +3 1988 protection!
The Magnificent Seven - Both Side A/B images load and run all games, Speedlock +3 1988 protection!
The Sentinel - loads and runs, unknown protection!
The Untochables - Loads and runs, Paul Owens protection!
Thundercats - Loads and runs, no protection!
We Are The Champions - Both Side A/B images load and run all games, Speedlock +3 1988 protection!

Images tried that don't work:

Chart Attack - Games load off menu on Disk 1 Side A but nothing loads, Gotek mostly sticks on Track 99, Hexagon protection!
Coin-Op Hits - No games load, Hexagon protection!
Dan Dare III - Sticks on Track 2, Speedlock 1989 protection!
Silkworm - Sticks on Track 3, Speedlock 1989 protection!
The New Zealand Story - Sticks on Track 2, Speedlock 1989 protection!
Turrican - Garbage on bottom third of screen, Gotek shows Track 99 and +3 resets, Hexagon protection!
X-Out - Resets +3 after a few Tracks loaded, Hexagon protection!

So only the newer Speedlock 1989 and Hexagon protections have issues! One other issue, the images seem to display in the order they were added to the USB, not alphabetical, have I missed something?

I made my own floppy cable adpater (a bit long but just to see if it worked), also unpinned the +5v and +12v power from the +3 floppy connector and only connected the +5v to where the +12v was, taped up the +12v for safety!

Gotek in and working:

Next is to actually fit the Gotek in semi-permanently and be able to close the case, looks a bit more challenging that

Keir · 22 February 2018, 17:26

Quote:

Originally Posted by BarryB

OK, managed to loosely Heath Robinson my Gotek into my +3 (Thanks Akira) and Flashed latest FF 0.9.9a (Thanks Keir)

It's not the latest, dude, get with the programme

Quote:

while it powers up and seems to run OK, having mixed results with certain DSK images although disk swaps worked flawlessly! All DSK images I tried also load and play fine in Spectaculator!

Copy-protected DSK images will give mixed results. I will investigate in due course and at least fix some of the more straightforward ones.

Keir · 22 February 2018, 17:27

New release v0.9.11a
https://github.com/keirf/FlashFloppy/wiki/Downloads

* New default OLED font 6x13 displays more text per line
--- 7x16 font removed
--- 8x16 font MAY be removed, let me know if you use it!!

* Narrow OLED view (default Gotek display cutout) supported
--- FF.CFG: display-type = oled-128x32-narrow

* All images can be write-protected by default
--- FF.CFG: write-protect = yes

* Write-protect switchable by holding eject for 2 seconds

Keir · 22 February 2018, 17:31

Quote:

Originally Posted by BarryB

One other issue, the images seem to display in the order they were added to the USB, not alphabetical, have I missed something?

You need to use a FAT sorter to sort the FAT directory alphabetically. Google it: there are lots to choose from.

By the way, I also recommend getting an I2C/IIC 128x32 OLED screen. They are much nicer and also much smaller than the old 16x2 LCDs.

Amiga1992 · 22 February 2018, 17:49

Would the good old Topaz font (old or new) fit on the OLED screen?

Sinphaltimus · 22 February 2018, 18:13

Quote:

Originally Posted by kaffer

New release v0.9.10a

* New default OLED font 6x13 displays more text per line
--- 7x16 font removed
--- 8x16 font MAY be removed, let me know if you use it!!

I use it, I'll try the new one tho' and get back to you later.

BarryB · 22 February 2018, 18:15

Quote:

Originally Posted by Akira

Would the good old Topaz font (old or new) fit on the OLED screen?

Can we have Comic Sans

Amiga1992 · 22 February 2018, 18:23

Quote:

Originally Posted by BarryB

Can we have Comic Sans

Oh god YES haha

Sinphaltimus · 22 February 2018, 20:22

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sinphaltimus

I use it, I'll try the new one tho' and get back to you later.

I like the new font config. So for me, it's out with the old and in with the new.

Were you able to look into possibly having the adf file name start scrolling before it's inserted?

ross · 22 February 2018, 20:30

Hi kaffer

A report from the user Superman about my Ziriax 100% loader:
http://eab.abime.net/showpost.php?p=...3&postcount=44

Seems to be a firmware issue:
http://eab.abime.net/showpost.php?p=...0&postcount=52

Fook42 · 22 February 2018, 21:00

Quote:

Originally Posted by kaffer

The 7x16 font is definitely gone, it was quite ugly. The 8x16 'vga' font... I could keep it I guess. But the new font is perfectly readable is it not?

hmm..
of course it is somehow readable.. but i'm not the youngest anymore and i like the fonts a bit thicker..

i dont want to revert your development, but i'd just like to have the chance to pick the bigger font if possible - dont care about 21cps or 16 ...

once flashed the font-type can be fixed - not to waste space for unused font-bitmap, so i just need a compiler-switch to select the right font... and thats it

please please...
the picture sinphaltimus from 0.9.8a shows the way i like it (dunno if this is the 8x16 or 7x16 font)

Sinphaltimus · 22 February 2018, 21:25

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fook42

hmm..
the picture sinphaltimus from 0.9.8a shows the way i like it (dunno if this is the 8x16 or 7x16 font)

That's the 8x16.

Keir · 22 February 2018, 22:02

Quote:

Originally Posted by ross

Hi kaffer

A report from the user Superman about my Ziriax 100% loader:
http://eab.abime.net/showpost.php?p=...3&postcount=44

Seems to be a firmware issue:
http://eab.abime.net/showpost.php?p=...0&postcount=52

Cheers, this is the Ziriax 100% in the Zone? I will test it when I next get a chance (next week).

ross · 22 February 2018, 22:14

Quote:

Originally Posted by kaffer

Cheers, this is the Ziriax 100% in the Zone? I will test it when I next get a chance (next week).

Keir · 23 February 2018, 12:43

Quote:

Originally Posted by ross

Hi kaffer

A report from the user Superman about my Ziriax 100% loader:
http://eab.abime.net/showpost.php?p=...3&postcount=44

Seems to be a firmware issue:
http://eab.abime.net/showpost.php?p=...0&postcount=52

https://github.com/keirf/FlashFloppy/issues/58

Sinphaltimus · 23 February 2018, 13:43

Ziriax and flashfloppy - I'm not going to pretend I know how these thigns work, I don't. However, just a quick check and Ziria (the adf in questions) - boots to WinUAE fine, when I'm in workbench and insert the floppy it comes up as NDOS but when I boot with it it works (WinUAE).

With flashfloppy GoTek, on boot up - the music starts then Amiga crashes. If I boot to Workbench and insert the ADF, workbench reports it as DF0:Uninitialized as opposed to DF0:NDOS like in WinUAE.

EDIT: I originally wanted to see if it booted on a real Amiga by copying Ziriax (duplicate adf) to a real floppy. But I can't when it's uninitialized.

ross · 23 February 2018, 14:04

Quote:

Originally Posted by kaffer

https://github.com/keirf/FlashFloppy/issues/58

Quick read of the trackloader indicates a 33ms max latency from read-start to sync-found. This is in addition to a 15ms settle delay if any head-step occurred.

Worst-case to find a sync should be sector-latency + track-gap = (544*16 + 4256) * 2us ~= 26ms.

So there should be plenty to play with here. I will debug on real hardware next week.

EDIT: 33ms was an arbitrary decision, but I had made calculations similar to yours and I had abounded considering also
the possibility of hacked floppies for long track writing or "naturally" very slow.
So yes, is really plenty of time and if a device (drive or floppy) do not sync-respond after this time is sure bad.
Anyway I was really generous in terms of the number of retry attempts (see my code)

For all timing in loader you can check:
http://eab.abime.net/showthread.php?p=1183710

Ziriax loader is a modified and adapted version, but technically it's the same.

ross · 23 February 2018, 14:19

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sinphaltimus

workbench reports it as DF0:Uninitialized as opposed to DF0:NDOS like in WinUAE.

Interesting.

WinUAE ia absolutely right.

22 February 2018, 13:09	#801
Sinphaltimus Registered User Join Date: Aug 2016 Location: Cresco, PA, USA Age: 53 Posts: 1,126	I'm not sure I understand what this is about entirely I'm on 0.9.8.a and have 8x16 selected in the cfg. My display looks fine. (see attached) And now that I did a very closeup pic, I see I should probably clean it next time before posting. Sorry. But anyway, am I missing a specific point here? Perhaps this is about the next version of the FW? Attached Thumbnails

22 February 2018, 17:27	#805
Keir Registered User Join Date: May 2011 Location: Cambridge Posts: 682	New release v0.9.11a https://github.com/keirf/FlashFloppy/wiki/Downloads * New default OLED font 6x13 displays more text per line --- 7x16 font removed --- 8x16 font MAY be removed, let me know if you use it!! * Narrow OLED view (default Gotek display cutout) supported --- FF.CFG: display-type = oled-128x32-narrow * All images can be write-protected by default --- FF.CFG: write-protect = yes * Write-protect switchable by holding eject for 2 seconds Last edited by Keir; 23 February 2018 at 11:41.

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22 February 2018, 16:07	#803
BarryB Amigaholic Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: UK Posts: 4,678	OK, managed to loosely Heath Robinson my Gotek into my +3 (Thanks Akira) and Flashed latest FF 0.9.9a (Thanks Keir) used configless mode and while it powers up and seems to run OK, having mixed results with certain DSK images although disk swaps worked flawlessly! All DSK images I tried also load and play fine in Spectaculator! Copy protections identified using Disk Image Manager v0.5 and v2.0 from DamienG on github Images tried that work: Arcade Muscle - Both Side A/B images load and run all games, Alkatraz +3 protection! APB - Loads and runs, Players protection! Arkanoid - The Revenge Of DOH - Loads and runs, Speedlock +3 1988 protection! Best Of Elite Vol 2 - Both Side A/B images load and run all games, Speedlock +3 1988 protection! Beverly Hills Cop - Loads and runs, no protection! Chart Busters - Both Side A/B images load and run all games, unknown protection! Chase H.Q. - Loads and runs, Paul Owens protection! Live Ammo - Both Side A/B images load and run all games, unknown protection! Microprose Soccer - loads and runs, unknown protection! The Fury - Loads and runs, Speedlock +3 1988 protection! The Magnificent Seven - Both Side A/B images load and run all games, Speedlock +3 1988 protection! The Sentinel - loads and runs, unknown protection! The Untochables - Loads and runs, Paul Owens protection! Thundercats - Loads and runs, no protection! We Are The Champions - Both Side A/B images load and run all games, Speedlock +3 1988 protection! Images tried that don't work: Chart Attack - Games load off menu on Disk 1 Side A but nothing loads, Gotek mostly sticks on Track 99, Hexagon protection! Coin-Op Hits - No games load, Hexagon protection! Dan Dare III - Sticks on Track 2, Speedlock 1989 protection! Silkworm - Sticks on Track 3, Speedlock 1989 protection! The New Zealand Story - Sticks on Track 2, Speedlock 1989 protection! Turrican - Garbage on bottom third of screen, Gotek shows Track 99 and +3 resets, Hexagon protection! X-Out - Resets +3 after a few Tracks loaded, Hexagon protection! So only the newer Speedlock 1989 and Hexagon protections have issues! One other issue, the images seem to display in the order they were added to the USB, not alphabetical, have I missed something? I made my own floppy cable adpater (a bit long but just to see if it worked), also unpinned the +5v and +12v power from the +3 floppy connector and only connected the +5v to where the +12v was, taped up the +12v for safety! Gotek in and working: Next is to actually fit the Gotek in semi-permanently and be able to close the case, looks a bit more challenging that

22 February 2018, 17:49	#807
Amiga1992 Registered User Join Date: May 2001 Location: ? Posts: 19,645	Would the good old Topaz font (old or new) fit on the OLED screen?

22 February 2018, 20:30	#812
ross Defendit numerus Join Date: Mar 2017 Location: Crossing the Rubicon Age: 53 Posts: 4,468	Hi kaffer A report from the user Superman about my Ziriax 100% loader: http://eab.abime.net/showpost.php?p=...3&postcount=44 Seems to be a firmware issue: http://eab.abime.net/showpost.php?p=...0&postcount=52

23 February 2018, 13:43	#818
Sinphaltimus Registered User Join Date: Aug 2016 Location: Cresco, PA, USA Age: 53 Posts: 1,126	Ziriax and flashfloppy - I'm not going to pretend I know how these thigns work, I don't. However, just a quick check and Ziria (the adf in questions) - boots to WinUAE fine, when I'm in workbench and insert the floppy it comes up as NDOS but when I boot with it it works (WinUAE). With flashfloppy GoTek, on boot up - the music starts then Amiga crashes. If I boot to Workbench and insert the ADF, workbench reports it as DF0:Uninitialized as opposed to DF0:NDOS like in WinUAE. EDIT: I originally wanted to see if it booted on a real Amiga by copying Ziriax (duplicate adf) to a real floppy. But I can't when it's uninitialized.

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