Any recommended internal PS2/USB Mouse products/mods for A1200?

AmigaUser2010 · 11 April 2010, 22:22

Hello everyone. I am new here so I apologize ahead of time if this is not in the correct area.

I am looking to use a mouse w/ click-wheel on my A1200 but the price of the cocolino is a tad steep (and I'd rather not have an adapter on an adapter if I use a USB mouse). My question is this: Are there any cheaper products/mods I can attempt (newb) for such a function? An optical w/ click-wheel via internal modification on my A1200 desktop is my main goal.

Thank you all in advance!

Merlin · 11 April 2010, 23:01

There are free projects on Aminet that are PIC 16F84 microcontroller based and are easy enough to assemble. I'm not 100% sure that they support the wheel function though.

Foul · 12 April 2010, 00:32

http://cgi.ebay.fr/AMIGA-ADAPTER-CON...item4cee6748cb

tested and approved !!! my wireless Logitech mouse working like a charm

AmigaUser2010 · 12 April 2010, 10:33

This seems like a nice option. Are there any reviews of this? Does anyone else have this installed? The scroll-wheel/optical works ok?

Thanks for the tip!

Foul · 12 April 2010, 12:55

u must use WheelMouseButton (wmb on Aminet) to use All you Mouse buttons ..

Usage here : http://ps2m.sotchenko.ru/usage.html

AmigaUser2010 · 04 May 2010, 22:42

I purchased one of these on ebay but I cannot get my USB optical mouse to do anything at all. I have freewheel placed into my WB startup and I am using Workbench 3.1 on my A1200.

Any thoughts on the matter? Am I missing something here? It seems to be a plug-and-play USB device, not plug-and-paperweight.

AmigaUser2010 · 05 May 2010, 17:04

I just contacted another user of this device who cannot get the USB to work and was just informed that the seller claims the USB usage is hit-or-miss, without any sort of proof. They say that it may not work with certain boards or mice but I do not understand how this is possible as it's only going into the joy/mouse port.

Does anyone besides the seller use an optical or USB mouse with this device? Can we get a list of mice that actually work via USB?

alexh · 05 May 2010, 17:08

Your USB mouse must support PS/2 legacy mode. Most (all?) Amiga USB mouse adapters are really only PS/2 adapters with a USB connector. To be a true USB->Amiga mouse adapter would require an expensive chip with a USB host controller.

Try to use a USB->PS/2 adapter on your PC (remember you need to reboot windows) and it doesn't work then that mouse won't work on Amiga adapter either.

AmigaUser2010 · 05 May 2010, 17:26

Hmm, no such luck on the PS/2 port for the laptop.

I'll try an adapter into an adapter.

This makes complete sense and saved me from a huge potential headache. Thank you!

So just to make sure I'm on the same page, there's essentially USB (new) and USB (PS/2 mode), and that the Amiga/this device will not support USB (new) but will support USB (PS/2 mode)?

With the exception of testing on a PC w/ the adapter how would I know if the USB optical mouse supports PS/2 mode? Is this usually a listed feature?

Cammy · 05 May 2010, 18:53

Try looking around for an older USB mouse that comes with a USB-to-PS/2 adapter, there's a good chance those ones will all work. A lot of them used to come with one of these adapters as standard back when PCs still came with PS/2 ports.

I suppose you could also get a Subway but then the mouse will only work in Workbench/applications and a few games that multitask, it won't work in WHDLoad games or floppy games like your USB-to-9pin adapter will. But at least with the Subway you can use all sorts of modern input devices if you use your Amiga for anything other than games.

ajacocks · 05 May 2010, 20:47

I have one of these, and it works perfectly with my Logitech USB optical mouse, on my A1200, and my A3000.

But yes, the mouse must support legacy mode, but I'm pretty sure that all Logitech mice do. At least, all 5 that I own do.

Good luck!

11 April 2010, 22:22	#1
AmigaUser2010 Registered User Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: USA Posts: 13	Any recommended internal PS2/USB Mouse products/mods for A1200? Hello everyone. I am new here so I apologize ahead of time if this is not in the correct area. I am looking to use a mouse w/ click-wheel on my A1200 but the price of the cocolino is a tad steep (and I'd rather not have an adapter on an adapter if I use a USB mouse). My question is this: Are there any cheaper products/mods I can attempt (newb) for such a function? An optical w/ click-wheel via internal modification on my A1200 desktop is my main goal. Thank you all in advance!

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11 April 2010, 23:01	#2
Merlin AmiBay MegaMod Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Manchester, UK Age: 62 Posts: 1,163	There are free projects on Aminet that are PIC 16F84 microcontroller based and are easy enough to assemble. I'm not 100% sure that they support the wheel function though.

12 April 2010, 00:32	#3
Foul Registered User Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Perigueux/France Age: 49 Posts: 1,516	http://cgi.ebay.fr/AMIGA-ADAPTER-CON...item4cee6748cb tested and approved !!! my wireless Logitech mouse working like a charm

12 April 2010, 10:33	#4
AmigaUser2010 Registered User Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: USA Posts: 13	This seems like a nice option. Are there any reviews of this? Does anyone else have this installed? The scroll-wheel/optical works ok? Thanks for the tip!

12 April 2010, 12:55	#5
Foul Registered User Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Perigueux/France Age: 49 Posts: 1,516	u must use WheelMouseButton (wmb on Aminet) to use All you Mouse buttons .. Usage here : http://ps2m.sotchenko.ru/usage.html

04 May 2010, 22:42	#6
AmigaUser2010 Registered User Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: USA Posts: 13	I purchased one of these on ebay but I cannot get my USB optical mouse to do anything at all. I have freewheel placed into my WB startup and I am using Workbench 3.1 on my A1200. Any thoughts on the matter? Am I missing something here? It seems to be a plug-and-play USB device, not plug-and-paperweight.

05 May 2010, 17:04	#7
AmigaUser2010 Registered User Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: USA Posts: 13	I just contacted another user of this device who cannot get the USB to work and was just informed that the seller claims the USB usage is hit-or-miss, without any sort of proof. They say that it may not work with certain boards or mice but I do not understand how this is possible as it's only going into the joy/mouse port. Does anyone besides the seller use an optical or USB mouse with this device? Can we get a list of mice that actually work via USB?

05 May 2010, 17:08	#8
alexh Thalion Webshrine Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Oxford Posts: 14,335	Your USB mouse must support PS/2 legacy mode. Most (all?) Amiga USB mouse adapters are really only PS/2 adapters with a USB connector. To be a true USB->Amiga mouse adapter would require an expensive chip with a USB host controller. Try to use a USB->PS/2 adapter on your PC (remember you need to reboot windows) and it doesn't work then that mouse won't work on Amiga adapter either.

05 May 2010, 17:26	#9
AmigaUser2010 Registered User Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: USA Posts: 13	Hmm, no such luck on the PS/2 port for the laptop. I'll try an adapter into an adapter. This makes complete sense and saved me from a huge potential headache. Thank you! So just to make sure I'm on the same page, there's essentially USB (new) and USB (PS/2 mode), and that the Amiga/this device will not support USB (new) but will support USB (PS/2 mode)? With the exception of testing on a PC w/ the adapter how would I know if the USB optical mouse supports PS/2 mode? Is this usually a listed feature?

05 May 2010, 18:53	#10
Cammy Registered User Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Tasmania, Australia Age: 39 Posts: 1,189	Try looking around for an older USB mouse that comes with a USB-to-PS/2 adapter, there's a good chance those ones will all work. A lot of them used to come with one of these adapters as standard back when PCs still came with PS/2 ports. I suppose you could also get a Subway but then the mouse will only work in Workbench/applications and a few games that multitask, it won't work in WHDLoad games or floppy games like your USB-to-9pin adapter will. But at least with the Subway you can use all sorts of modern input devices if you use your Amiga for anything other than games.

05 May 2010, 20:47	#11
ajacocks Registered User Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Falls Church, Virginia, USA Posts: 59	I have one of these, and it works perfectly with my Logitech USB optical mouse, on my A1200, and my A3000. But yes, the mouse must support legacy mode, but I'm pretty sure that all Logitech mice do. At least, all 5 that I own do. Good luck!

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