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Old 13 January 2021, 17:29   #181
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Eh, it is there and it is quite awesome. It might not fit your definition/criteria, but that's only too bad.
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Old 13 January 2021, 17:44   #182
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Yes, Motorola gave up on the 68000 line. So somebody else picked up the ISA.
So, yes, there is no MC68080, but there is AC68080.
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Old 13 January 2021, 17:49   #183
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https://www.reddit.com/r/amiga/comme..._mobilephones/

Of course there is...
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Old 13 January 2021, 17:55   #184
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Yes, Motorola gave up on the 68000 line. So somebody else picked up the ISA.
So, yes, there is no MC68080, but there is AC68080.
no.. noone picked it up.. someone however did a mediocre clone and called it "080"
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Old 13 January 2021, 17:57   #185
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It would probably qualify as 68EC080, without a full precision FPU, and without a full MMU.
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Old 13 January 2021, 17:58   #186
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that name I would agree with so there is no "080" but there is an EC080
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Old 13 January 2021, 17:58   #187
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Old 13 January 2021, 18:00   #188
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Indeed!

Funny though :-)

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Old 13 January 2021, 20:45   #189
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No doubt FPGA is the future of retro computing. And it looks to me like the DE10 is the best one available to us to address all the retro needs one may wish for.

So 2 camps of retro hardware the way I see it. Those who want real period hardware, and those who go FPGA emulation of that hardware - of course subset of this is software emulation.
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So 2 camps of retro hardware the way I see it. Those who want real period hardware, and those who go FPGA emulation of that hardware - of course subset of this is software emulation.
Why 'camps'? This sounds as if there is a conflict of some kind. I happily use FPGA, my classic Amiga (as well as emulation) all the time and I get a different kind of Amiga joy out of each.

I do agree, though, FPGAs are the only way forward.
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Why 'camps'? This sounds as if there is a conflict of some kind. I happily use FPGA, my classic Amiga (as well as emulation) all the time and I get a different kind of Amiga joy out of each.

I do agree, though, FPGAs are the only way forward.
100%. I have the hardware and FPGAs including DE10 and now ordered an UNAMIGA, and I have software too. Each has a place and a use.

But nothing beats having a real Amiga under your fingers running a 68000. It's not concentrated, replicated, processed, supplemented with vitamin C and D added. In that respect, I guess I'm a purist - DCTV, Digi-View, audio sampler and hand scanner with a CRT monitor. Should I have a dot matrix printer? I think so. Use it at night when kids are asleep to let them know what late night finished essays sounded like!

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Agreed! And I am very tempted by the Unamiga, such a cool project! Let me know your impressions, when you get it.
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Agreed! And I am very tempted by the Unamiga, such a cool project! Let me know your impressions, when you get it.
Just the 9 pin ports had me sold. Initially I was going to go for the 500, but ended with the ITX - just because it would be easier to deal with for a mod, like putting it in a A1000 case for example.

It looks great. A1200 header version will be hot - if it ever comes out. We have new cases, throw in an UNAMIGA 1200 in it, and you have awesomeness! Should be sold as a complete product to be honest - if someone can solve for cost of the keyboard - because right now an A1200 keyboard and keyrah will set you back as much as case and UNAMIGA - which doesn't seem right.
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Gotta love 9-pins!

Can't you just use a PS/2 keyboard in this? Although I guess that will ruin all the original Amiga feeling in the 500 Unamiga, but in the ITX you could find some nice ones...

(ok, enough OT! :P )
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that name I would agree with so there is no "080" but there is an EC080
From now on I'm going to refer to the PPC750FX@800MHz in my Amiga 4000 as a 68800.

The Ryzen in my desktop which I use WinUAE on is now a 683700.

The PPC7410@450MHz in a different Amiga 4000 I'll say is about a 68450.

Anyone else want to rename random CPUs we can just chime in here.

Also the Voodoo 3 is AAAA and the Radeon 9200 is CRAY-GA.
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damn you have a 683700? wow I only have a 683600. danm
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Oh we need MC68xxx names for the ARM Cortex A9 on the ZZ9000, what do you reckon that should be about a MC68600 or so?
What about the ARM on the Warp1260, maybe that should be around an MC68400?
And the GFX on the Warp1260 is at least GRAGA?
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Gotta love 9-pins!

Can't you just use a PS/2 keyboard in this? Although I guess that will ruin all the original Amiga feeling in the 500 Unamiga, but in the ITX you could find some nice ones...

(ok, enough OT! :P )
Of course. And there are mad geniuses I think from Poland that do all types of USB to 9-pin adapters that support mice as well as joysticks - so you can deploy on MISTer with USB only and no 9-pin. But all these adapters - $20 here, $30 there...it all adds up. Put that toward UNAMIGA - and you get an actual FPGA system with those 9 pin ports.
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Well, naming an 68k-ISA compatible CPU 680XX makes sense.
Doing so on a totally different architecture.. meh!
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