Next game to port? - Page 3

d4rk3lf · 20 August 2019, 10:19

@JudasEZT
This is very cool looking.

Great job!

Yeah, unique beat em up would be also great.
The important thing (for me) would be to copy Capcom fighing moves and feel. So, for example, "grab" move is a must.

I don't know if mcgeezer played any arcade Capcom beat em up's, or if he is interested in the genre at all (I hope that the answer for both question is "yes").
I think Richard Aplin (coder for the Final Fight) didn't understand the very basic principles of good beat em up, and gameplay feel. With some tweaks, even current Final Fight would be more then acceptable.

mcgeezer · 20 August 2019, 10:30

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Originally Posted by d4rk3lf

@JudasEZT

I don't know if mcgeezer played any arcade Capcom beat em up's, or if he is interested in the genre at all (I hope that the answer for both question is "yes").
I think Richard Aplin (coder for the Final Fight) didn't understand the very basic principles of good beat em up, and gameplay feel. With some tweaks, even current Final Fight would be more then acceptable.

I've played a few, but I prefer shooters and platformers.

Games like final fight and 1-1 fighters always come down to the limitations of the controls. You could make the best Amiga fighting game ever but they will always be beat by those games on the consoles simply because they had more buttons to press for different moves.

JudasEZT · 20 August 2019, 10:36

@Mcgeezer,... if you need original graphics count me in.

@d4rk3lf, glad you liked it

d4rk3lf · 20 August 2019, 10:39

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Originally Posted by mcgeezer

Games like final fight and 1-1 fighters always come down to the limitations of the controls. You could make the best Amiga fighting game ever but they will always be beat by those games on the consoles simply because they had more buttons to press for different moves.

We have a tons of good shooters and platformers already on Amiga.

Also, we have some great 1:1 beat em ups (Mortal Kombat, for example).

As for the buttons, why not making it on 2 buttons (jump, and fire), no need for anything else for beat em up. We can play from keyboard, or genesis pad (I would even purchase some 2 buttons joystick).

I am not insisting on anything... just saying

... whatever new game/port you choose, I will look forward to play it, and kudos for all the work you already did on Rygar.

Tigerskunk · 20 August 2019, 10:43

sorry for the OT, but:
Once again, I really have no idea why Amiga users are not having a problem of spending hundreds to thousands of euros in upgrades for their machines, but cannot be arsed to spend 15 bucks on a Joypad or -stick that has more than one button.

Retro1234 · 20 August 2019, 10:56

Would there be any point remaking such a game and having 1 button joystick?

alpine9000 · 20 August 2019, 11:06

I would LOVE a quality Shinobi or Rolling Thunder port. I voted Shinobi only because as a kid I enjoyed the Shinobi gfx more.

Irek´72 · 20 August 2019, 11:18

It would be cool Rastan as the next Amiga game to see.

Lord Aga · 20 August 2019, 11:46

Well it has to be Final Fight, of course. Because Amiga never got the arcade port.

No, it didn't !!!

whitegiant89 · 20 August 2019, 11:49

The Amiga needs a better version of Castlevania for sure.

Predseda · 20 August 2019, 11:49

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Originally Posted by JudasEZT

What about an original Amiga ECS/OCS beat'm up ?

Here mock-up of 16 colors graphics

Stay tuned for upcoming BitBeam Cannon suprise, soon.

Solo Kazuki · 20 August 2019, 11:54

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Originally Posted by mcgeezer

Games like final fight and 1-1 fighters always come down to the limitations of the controls. You could make the best Amiga fighting game ever but they will always be beat by those games on the consoles simply because they had more buttons to press for different moves.

Considering that You'll make game for AGA hardware (A1200/4000/CD32) there is support for up to seven buttons with CD32 joypad or compatible (e.g. KTRL32) even on A1200 and A4000 (with lowlevel.library).

DamienD · 20 August 2019, 12:06

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Originally Posted by Lord Aga

Well it has to be Final Fight, of course. Because Amiga never got the arcade port.

No, it didn't !!!

Final Fight on the Amiga is ok and playable.

Shinobi on the other hand, is one of the worst ports ever on the Amiga for so many reasons; graphics / scrolling etc.

The Sega Master System version is way better... or even the Commodore 64 version, so something is very wrong there.

malko · 20 August 2019, 12:07

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Originally Posted by mcgeezer

So hypothetically.... if I was to port another game to the Amiga after Rygar, what would you like to see?

Have you planned a voting deadline ?
And would you "non hypothetically" consider porting a new game ?

Solo Kazuki · 20 August 2019, 12:16

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Originally Posted by DamienD

Final Fight on the Amiga is ok and playable.

Sorry, but cannot agree with this.

First of all game is cuted and reduced everywhere. Not only graphically (reduced colors, less details), but also by quality and quantity. Enemies just appears on main field, not out from doors, etc. There is less objects (crates and barells, weapons and other bonuses, etc), less enemies, less details in gamefield and background.

Second, that one button system is horrible. Overally gameplay is little rigid when compared to other versions (except of course 8-bit ones).

For me it's same case with Shinobi and Final Fight - both games should be better for Amiga.

nobody · 20 August 2019, 12:34

Curse of issyos (Castlevania clone) probably the A500 can do it.
Or Maldida Castilla, probably too much for A500

Lord Aga · 20 August 2019, 12:44

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Originally Posted by DamienD

Final Fight on the Amiga is ok and playable.

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Originally Posted by DamienD

Shinobi on the other hand, is one of the worst ports ever on the Amiga for so many reasons; graphics / scrolling etc.

I wouldn't mind a proper Shinobi port TBH. It is one of my arcade favs

DanScott · 20 August 2019, 13:10

Both shinobi and rolling thunder could have almost near perfect ports on a500, certainly on a1200

How about Speed Rumbler? It's a great game that never got a port to any home system AFAIK

Although an original game might be better.. Even if it was inspired by a classic coin-op

MartinW · 20 August 2019, 13:12

I would like to see McGeezer's talents put to his own game and further more I'd like to see it use some of the more powerful features of AGA and maybe even higher CPUs. I know the ratio of target users is lower but more and more of us have AGA and higher (there's going to be a LOT more Vampire users soon in theory) and I personally don't think there's enough stuff out there to really justify the existence of the more powerful hardware. At least from a gaming point of view anyway. Note that I'm aware of all the SDL ports and the 1st person 3D stuff but I don't mean that, I mean original content and preferably 2D since (again in my opinion) 3D looks like sh*t on the Amiga.

McTrinsic · 20 August 2019, 13:27

Does it have to be a beat em‘ up?

I’d love to see ‚Star Trek: The Revel Universe‘ on the Amiga.

Almost bought an Atari because of that game back then. I was really into Star Trek at that time...

View Poll Results: What game do you want to see ported to the Amiga?
Rolling Thunder (Arcade)	21	6.58%
Gauntlet (Arcade)	29	9.09%
Shinobi (Arcade)	49	15.36%
Pacman (Arcade)	7	2.19%
Final Fight (Arcade)	35	10.97%
Rastan (Arcade)	30	9.40%
Side Arms (Arcade)	1	0.31%
Nemesis/Gradius (Arcade)	13	4.08%
Raiden (Arcade)	10	3.13%
Raiden II (Arcade)	11	3.45%
Space Invaders (Arcade)	2	0.63%
Bad Dudes vs Dragon Ninja (Arcade)	6	1.88%
Wonder Boy (Arcade)	46	14.42%
Axelay (SNES)	9	2.82%
Double Dragon (Arcade)	13	4.08%
None - Do my own game!	37	11.60%
Voters: 319. You may not vote on this poll

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20 August 2019, 10:19	#41
d4rk3lf Registered User Join Date: Jul 2015 Location: Novi Sad, Serbia Posts: 1,645	@JudasEZT This is very cool looking. Great job! Yeah, unique beat em up would be also great. The important thing (for me) would be to copy Capcom fighing moves and feel. So, for example, "grab" move is a must. I don't know if mcgeezer played any arcade Capcom beat em up's, or if he is interested in the genre at all (I hope that the answer for both question is "yes"). I think Richard Aplin (coder for the Final Fight) didn't understand the very basic principles of good beat em up, and gameplay feel. With some tweaks, even current Final Fight would be more then acceptable.

20 August 2019, 10:36	#43
JudasEZT Registered User Join Date: May 2003 Location: mercury Posts: 577	@Mcgeezer,... if you need original graphics count me in. @d4rk3lf, glad you liked it

20 August 2019, 10:43	#45
Tigerskunk Inviyya Dude! Join Date: Sep 2016 Location: Amiga Island Posts: 2,770	sorry for the OT, but: Once again, I really have no idea why Amiga users are not having a problem of spending hundreds to thousands of euros in upgrades for their machines, but cannot be arsed to spend 15 bucks on a Joypad or -stick that has more than one button.

20 August 2019, 10:56	#46
Retro1234 Phone Homer Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: 5150 Posts: 5,773	Would there be any point remaking such a game and having 1 button joystick?

20 August 2019, 11:06	#47
alpine9000 Registered User Join Date: Mar 2016 Location: Australia Posts: 881	I would LOVE a quality Shinobi or Rolling Thunder port. I voted Shinobi only because as a kid I enjoyed the Shinobi gfx more.

20 August 2019, 11:18	#48
Irek´72 ´040 User Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Emsland/Germany Age: 51 Posts: 450	It would be cool Rastan as the next Amiga game to see.

20 August 2019, 11:46	#49
Lord Aga MI clan prevails Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: Belgrade, Serbia Posts: 1,443	Well it has to be Final Fight, of course. Because Amiga never got the arcade port. No, it didn't !!!

20 August 2019, 11:49	#50
whitegiant89 Lone CBM user Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Atherton / Australia Age: 52 Posts: 148	The Amiga needs a better version of Castlevania for sure.

20 August 2019, 12:34	#56
nobody Registered User Join Date: Dec 2013 Location: GR Age: 46 Posts: 1,416	Curse of issyos (Castlevania clone) probably the A500 can do it. Or Maldida Castilla, probably too much for A500

20 August 2019, 13:10	#58
DanScott Lemon. / Core Design Join Date: Mar 2016 Location: Tier 5 Posts: 1,211	Both shinobi and rolling thunder could have almost near perfect ports on a500, certainly on a1200 How about Speed Rumbler? It's a great game that never got a port to any home system AFAIK Although an original game might be better.. Even if it was inspired by a classic coin-op

20 August 2019, 13:12	#59
MartinW Registered User Join Date: Mar 2017 Location: Minehead / UK Posts: 608	I would like to see McGeezer's talents put to his own game and further more I'd like to see it use some of the more powerful features of AGA and maybe even higher CPUs. I know the ratio of target users is lower but more and more of us have AGA and higher (there's going to be a LOT more Vampire users soon in theory) and I personally don't think there's enough stuff out there to really justify the existence of the more powerful hardware. At least from a gaming point of view anyway. Note that I'm aware of all the SDL ports and the 1st person 3D stuff but I don't mean that, I mean original content and preferably 2D since (again in my opinion) 3D looks like sh*t on the Amiga.

20 August 2019, 13:27	#60
McTrinsic Registered User Join Date: Feb 2014 Location: Germany Posts: 527	Does it have to be a beat em‘ up? I’d love to see ‚Star Trek: The Revel Universe‘ on the Amiga. Almost bought an Atari because of that game back then. I was really into Star Trek at that time...

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