Burseg's non-tosec adfs - Page 3

andreas · 22 March 2002, 02:50

@utri
Here I managed to dig something out.
There's one. A Poker game in Finnish!
Thanks a lot to Archyx for dumping them!

I upped both DMSes (the 100 Fmk version and the 200 Fmk version) to the zone!

06 September 2002, 21:10

I explicitly stated that these games must be named as "[Tr]". I even pm'ed idoru about this and made the [unk] flag of umut tarlalari into [Tr] but with some unknown reason all Turkish games are now flagged as "Tu" in the latest DATs. There's nothing such as "Tu", please fix it tosec people.

06 September 2002, 21:22

I bought 500 floppy disks loaded with games and utilities today. Two of the disks contains an application that is not yet in tosec, the sequel of it is tosecized but this one is not.

Name: World Atlas
Disks: 2
Company: Centaur Software
Language: English (En)
Year: 1989
Protection: None

It's adfized, transferred to the pc and now in the zone

alkis21 · 10 September 2002, 07:10

Quote:

Originally posted by andreas

This brings me to a new question:
Who else has games that are neither of Danish, English, French, German, Spanish, Italian or Turkish?

I have some Greek games but although they're not bad at all, they're all mind games like Trivial Pursuit, you can't play them if you don't speak Greek.

Twistin'Ghost · 13 September 2002, 10:43

Quote:

Originally posted by alkis21

I have some Greek games but although they're not bad at all, they're all mind games like Trivial Pursuit, you can't play them if you don't speak Greek.

Are these commercial games? If so (or actually even if they aren't) can you post them to the Zone. Just because they're Greek is no reason for them to be lost and not preserved. They were a part of the Amiga scene and should thus be preserved!

CodyJarrett · 27 February 2003, 00:46

I'm updating all the Turkish games in the HOL.

I'm working on:

Ýstanbul Efsaneleri - Lale Savaþçýlarý
http://hol.abime.net/?id=3661

I still need to add stuff like the credit info.

Burseg - is this screen from Ýstanbul Efsaneleri advertising other Turkish games? Umut Tarlalarý is in the HOL (but MIA) - I'm not sure what the other two are.

27 February 2003, 01:23

Yes this screen is advertising other games.
Afaik, "Son Çað" and "Krobb" are never released.

I'll try to grab a screen of umut tarlalari.

andreas · 11 November 2003, 23:09

Quote:

Originally posted by Magix
Another Turkish Puzzle Game

Name: Zeka Kutusu
Disks: 1
Company: Vefa Software
Language: Turkish (Tr)
Year: 1992
Protection: Manual

Has anyone managed to grab this?
I missed it -- please re-upload if possible.
No screenshots at all in HOL yet, nor are there any credits.
Thanks.

CodyJarrett · 11 November 2003, 23:19

I've uploaded it to the Zone, but there is manual protection in the game.

andreas · 11 November 2003, 23:21

Thanks Cody!

There's save-state, which I've already managed to bypass some manual protections with (trial and error

)

andreas · 12 November 2003, 00:54

so here's the codes:

note: might be necessary to tweak your config a little ... sometimes has problems with the menu it seems :hoo

Codetapper · 12 November 2003, 10:48

Quote:

Originally posted by CodyJarrett
I've uploaded it to the Zone, but there is manual protection in the game.

Not anymore

The stupid bootblock prevents the game running on AGA machines so the version I've uploaded has the bootblock replaced with a standard one. At the protection screen for both games just click any combination of buttons and it'll let you through and into the game.

Also Zeka Kutusu (haven't checked Tetramem) has a really crappy memory detection routine so a machine with 2 Mb chip ram but no fast memory will be told that the game needs 1 Mb and refuse to run! Lame!

turk182 · 12 November 2003, 12:46

Good job !, now I can see what the hell this Turkish game is about...
Did you send a note to burseg about this? , he probably still lurkes around like me

andreas · 12 November 2003, 14:17

GRR

All work in vain!

Codetapper, mate, since people NEVER know whether you're currently being too busy with another install, it was safe to provide the codes!

(A bird in the hand is worth two more in the bush!

)
If I had known that you would provide the ADF version in a blink of an eye, I would definitely not have done the work for the codes!

BTW: Correct, that mem detection routine works for slow mem only, therefore it would NOT work on A1000 + Megabox. (A1000 does _not_ have that same slow RAM type as the A500!)

andreas · 12 November 2003, 22:51

Hehe, I'm using the search function again -- and end up in this thread again!

Quote:

Actually Caverns of Palle seems to exist on a compilation disk.

Correct, it's Trilogy Mega Game Pack #7.

I have a copy, but I don't upload it because the boot block is completely crushed. Games work, but I get completely weird characters. (Yes, also on teh real thing

)

Codetapper · 12 November 2003, 23:16

Quote:

Originally posted by andreas
GRR
All work in vain!

Codetapper, mate, since people NEVER know whether you're currently being too busy with another install, it was safe to provide the codes! (A bird in the hand is worth two more in the bush! )
If I had known that you would provide the ADF version in a blink of an eye, I would definitely not have done the work for the codes!

Andreas: Did you realise you can view the codes in plain text in the game file? Depack the file, search for that string that the game asks you and you will see 15 six character strings just below it like so: ##@#@@. Those are the codes the game is comparing your answer to. You could change them all to the same character so 6 left clicks would work for any code.

Of course the crack is much sneakier, it fools the game into comparing the correct answer with the correct answer rather than the correct answer with what you typed in

As for never knowing what I'm doing, join the club! If I feel like doing an ADF crack for HOL I will often do it just for a change!

andreas · 13 November 2003, 00:06

Quote:

Originally posted by Codetapper
Andreas: Did you realise you can view the codes in plain text in the game file?

No!!

Quote:

Depack the file, search for that string that the game asks you and you will see 15 six character strings just below it like so: ##@#@@. Those are the codes the game is comparing your answer to.

LOOOL!

Well, I used the l4me h4x0r's method (simply trying through all of them, realizing that I got 64 (0x40) possibilities to get the corresponding code

Do NOT dare ask me if I had still done this if there was 7 digits with 0x100 combinations

)

Quote:

As for never knowing what I'm doing, join the club!

hehe

Quote:

If I feel like doing an ADF crack for HOL I will often do it just for a change!

Yeah, and I bet if I ask you next time, you're incredibly busy with one nasty track-loaded image, trying to bake another WHD installer out of it

Codetapper · 13 November 2003, 02:12

Quote:

Originally posted by andreas
Well, I used the l4me h4x0r's method (simply trying through all of them, realizing that I got 64 (0x40) possibilities to get the corresponding code Do NOT dare ask me if I had still done this if there was 7 digits with 0x100 combinations )

Well if there are games which have not been cracked and are not custom formats you should upload them here to see if Galahad, Amigaboy or myself are available to crack them.

Now that I know how you worked out the codes I can see how you might have been a little annoyed to find the full crack!

For next time, here are some hints:

Always depack the main file with XFDDecrunch.
Search for any ASCII text on the protection screen!
If you find some text, search around it for a table. Often values are stored very near to the text.
If in doubt, contact your local cracker!

cai24 · 29 November 2006, 13:53

Quote:

Originally Posted by utri007

Finnis amiga games:

Super stardust / Stardust, they are allso makers of Max Payne. They still make amiga demos, Lapsuus can found on aminet

Elfmania same makers than stardust???

Terramaque=Blood house=Remedy?????

I don't know any finnis localed games for amiga ;-) maybe cause only 5 million finnis. Some multi language titles has a possibility
to choose a finnis language like.

May I clear something out?

-bloodhouse = stardust and super stardust
-terramarque = elfmania (remedy lead artist reward/sami did freelance -touching up for unreleased VGA version)
-bloodhouse+terramarque merged 1995. original elfmania team had all departed by then, except for stavvy & me
-remedy was formed by scene people. they have no further connection with other 2 early finnish companies
-in housemarque, only scy/harri remains from original bloodhouse. only ceo/ilari remains from terramarque. new game coming soon with familiar title.
-new, upcoming game company recoil has one original bloodhouse member and one or two original remedy guys

22 March 2002, 02:50	#41
andreas Zone Friend Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: Germany Age: 50 Posts: 5,857	A Finnish game in Finnish! :-P @utri Here I managed to dig something out. There's one. A Poker game in Finnish! Thanks a lot to Archyx for dumping them! I upped both DMSes (the 100 Fmk version and the 200 Fmk version) to the zone! Last edited by andreas; 22 March 2002 at 16:10.

27 February 2003, 00:46	#46
CodyJarrett Global Moderator Join Date: Mar 2001 Location: UK Age: 46 Posts: 6,160	I'm updating all the Turkish games in the HOL. I'm working on: Ýstanbul Efsaneleri - Lale Savaþçýlarý http://hol.abime.net/?id=3661 I still need to add stuff like the credit info. Burseg - is this screen from Ýstanbul Efsaneleri advertising other Turkish games? Umut Tarlalarý is in the HOL (but MIA) - I'm not sure what the other two are. Attached Thumbnails

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06 September 2002, 21:10	#42
oldpx Posts: n/a	I explicitly stated that these games must be named as "[Tr]". I even pm'ed idoru about this and made the [unk] flag of umut tarlalari into [Tr] but with some unknown reason all Turkish games are now flagged as "Tu" in the latest DATs. There's nothing such as "Tu", please fix it tosec people.

06 September 2002, 21:22	#43
oldpx Posts: n/a	I bought 500 floppy disks loaded with games and utilities today. Two of the disks contains an application that is not yet in tosec, the sequel of it is tosecized but this one is not. Name: World Atlas Disks: 2 Company: Centaur Software Language: English (En) Year: 1989 Protection: None It's adfized, transferred to the pc and now in the zone

27 February 2003, 01:23	#47
oldpx Posts: n/a	Yes this screen is advertising other games. Afaik, "Son Çað" and "Krobb" are never released. I'll try to grab a screen of umut tarlalari.

11 November 2003, 23:19	#49
CodyJarrett Global Moderator Join Date: Mar 2001 Location: UK Age: 46 Posts: 6,160	I've uploaded it to the Zone, but there is manual protection in the game.

11 November 2003, 23:21	#50
andreas Zone Friend Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: Germany Age: 50 Posts: 5,857	Thanks Cody! There's save-state, which I've already managed to bypass some manual protections with (trial and error )

12 November 2003, 12:46	#53
turk182 Junior Member Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: london Posts: 188	Good job !, now I can see what the hell this Turkish game is about... Did you send a note to burseg about this? , he probably still lurkes around like me

12 November 2003, 14:17	#54
andreas Zone Friend Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: Germany Age: 50 Posts: 5,857	GRR All work in vain! Codetapper, mate, since people NEVER know whether you're currently being too busy with another install, it was safe to provide the codes! (A bird in the hand is worth two more in the bush! ) If I had known that you would provide the ADF version in a blink of an eye, I would definitely not have done the work for the codes! BTW: Correct, that mem detection routine works for slow mem only, therefore it would NOT work on A1000 + Megabox. (A1000 does _not_ have that same slow RAM type as the A500!)

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