BetterWB 4.0 27-February-2015 - Page 3

Overflow · 14 September 2015, 02:20

So, I reinstalled a clean WB 3.1.

Downloaded the BetterWB 4.0 ADFs and transfered them onto floppies.

Then I open the floppy and start the "Update_betterWB". Doesnt seem to do a whole lot. It wants to write to disk, and then procedes to inflate tons of files. But at the end of the day I dont see a whole lot of change..?

Today was my first "serious" dabble with my A1200 evening Ive had in years, and Ive hunted down many of the old "must" have programs, plus some new ones I didnt know off. Found this page intresting http://amiga911maker.site11.com/index-1280.htm

Anyhow. Wanting to have a low impact WB enhancement so BetterWB seems like the way to go, but as a novice, I cant seem to even install it :P

ptyerman · 14 September 2015, 03:44

You won't see a lot of change with BetterWB, it looks exactly the same as a stock WB 3.xx install. The changes are under the hood, play around with it a little and you will find the differences.

Leffmann · 14 September 2015, 08:08

Quote:

Originally Posted by Overflow

So, I reinstalled a clean WB 3.1.

Downloaded the BetterWB 4.0 ADFs and transfered them onto floppies.

Then I open the floppy and start the "Update_betterWB". Doesnt seem to do a whole lot. It wants to write to disk, and then procedes to inflate tons of files. But at the end of the day I dont see a whole lot of change..?

That's the update disk. The disk set for the full installation is just a bit further down on the BetterWB page.

Overflow · 14 September 2015, 12:10

Ah! /hangs his head in shame...

It was there in plain english.

Thanks for the reminder to read the info available

Retrofan · 02 October 2015, 23:49

Hi:
So I've sold my ACA1231/42 but I have an old Hawk Ramboard. I remember it never was working with 8mb fast ram, so I've decided to use a simple OS like BetterWB.

To my surprise it has booted with near 7Mb of fast

.

I want to tell that "Don't ShowIBorder" in the WBStartup was hanging the system (not in WinUAE though), so I've disabled it. Appart of that it works perfect

I've got a problem though. A bit offtopic but maybe you can help me. When I try to play any game using Whdload it hangs. They don't hang if I change the jumpers of the Hawk to use 4Mb, but then some games don't work as they need more fast mem.

I've tried for example Indiana Jones Fate of Atlantis Adv (8mb selected in the ramboard) and it hangs with WHDload, but as I've got the floppies I've installed it using them and the game works perfect.

Is there any tool I should try changing in WHDload?

Edit: Forget about that. I've re-read my old post about the Hawk and it's normal that it shows 8Mb, but they don't work. At least it works right with 4Mb and your OS wastes few memory.

B14ck W01f · 06 May 2016, 06:16

Quote:

Requirements:
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About 10MB of storage space on a harddrive.

Really?
I just did a fresh WB3.0 install on my 40MB drive and that gives me 29% full on the main drive (where I installed WB3.0 to), yet it fails on disk 4 ("Volume Workbench is full").

seb132 · 06 May 2016, 12:50

You probably try to do the install on the floppy...?

B14ck W01f · 06 May 2016, 13:10

No, it was the WB drive, otherwise it would have said "Volume Misc3.1 is full" instead.

gulliver · 06 May 2016, 14:20

BetterWB 4.0 + a clean Workbench 3.1 = 11.477.622 bytes

Since AmigaOS 3.1 (or 3.0 for that matter) is a prerequisite, BetterWB 4.0 requires well under 10MB of HDD space.

If you are running out of space, you can alternatively delete documentation located in HELP: and/or icon sets you are not using which are located in SYS:Prefs/Presets/IconSets/

B14ck W01f · 06 May 2016, 16:41

When I installed WB on my hard drive, I used HDSetup. Not HDToolBox. As a result, it automatically created a Work: partition also. This partition uses so much space, so that's the reason why.

Thanks for your help.

DesktopDynamite · 06 May 2016, 17:13

Is there a tutorial on how to install betterwb onto an 8gb cf with PFS3, whdload and e.g. ag launch? Can I for e.g. boot the amiga and hold the left/right button to go straight to a whdload front end launcher such as ag launch, igame etc?
TIA

Sent from my GT-I9301I using Tapatalk

Ratte · 22 May 2016, 20:54

I miss the xtreme-driver (mk2 + mk2cr) with 1280x1024.
http://www.a1k.org/forum/showthread.php?t=31827

br
André

gulliver · 23 May 2016, 09:15

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ratte

I miss the xtreme-driver (mk2 + mk2cr) with 1280x1024.
http://www.a1k.org/forum/showthread.php?t=31827

br
André

Thanks

02 October 2015, 23:49	#45
Retrofan Ruler of the Universe Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: Lanzarote/Spain Posts: 6,185	Hi: So I've sold my ACA1231/42 but I have an old Hawk Ramboard. I remember it never was working with 8mb fast ram, so I've decided to use a simple OS like BetterWB. To my surprise it has booted with near 7Mb of fast . I want to tell that "Don't ShowIBorder" in the WBStartup was hanging the system (not in WinUAE though), so I've disabled it. Appart of that it works perfect I've got a problem though. A bit offtopic but maybe you can help me. When I try to play any game using Whdload it hangs. They don't hang if I change the jumpers of the Hawk to use 4Mb, but then some games don't work as they need more fast mem. I've tried for example Indiana Jones Fate of Atlantis Adv (8mb selected in the ramboard) and it hangs with WHDload, but as I've got the floppies I've installed it using them and the game works perfect. Is there any tool I should try changing in WHDload? Edit: Forget about that. I've re-read my old post about the Hawk and it's normal that it shows 8Mb, but they don't work. At least it works right with 4Mb and your OS wastes few memory. Last edited by Retrofan; 04 October 2015 at 12:02.

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14 September 2015, 02:20	#41
Overflow Registered User Join Date: Nov 2014 Location: Norway Posts: 387	So, I reinstalled a clean WB 3.1. Downloaded the BetterWB 4.0 ADFs and transfered them onto floppies. Then I open the floppy and start the "Update_betterWB". Doesnt seem to do a whole lot. It wants to write to disk, and then procedes to inflate tons of files. But at the end of the day I dont see a whole lot of change..? Today was my first "serious" dabble with my A1200 evening Ive had in years, and Ive hunted down many of the old "must" have programs, plus some new ones I didnt know off. Found this page intresting http://amiga911maker.site11.com/index-1280.htm Anyhow. Wanting to have a low impact WB enhancement so BetterWB seems like the way to go, but as a novice, I cant seem to even install it :P

14 September 2015, 03:44	#42
ptyerman Registered User Join Date: Jun 2012 Location: Worksop/UK Age: 59 Posts: 1,328	You won't see a lot of change with BetterWB, it looks exactly the same as a stock WB 3.xx install. The changes are under the hood, play around with it a little and you will find the differences.

14 September 2015, 12:10	#44
Overflow Registered User Join Date: Nov 2014 Location: Norway Posts: 387	Ah! /hangs his head in shame... It was there in plain english. Thanks for the reminder to read the info available

06 May 2016, 12:50	#47
seb132 French in Australia Join Date: May 2012 Location: Gold Coast Age: 52 Posts: 507	You probably try to do the install on the floppy...?

06 May 2016, 13:10	#48
B14ck W01f m68k all the way Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: Koalaland Posts: 523	No, it was the WB drive, otherwise it would have said "Volume Misc3.1 is full" instead.

06 May 2016, 14:20	#49
gulliver BoingBagged Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: The South of nowhere Age: 46 Posts: 2,358	BetterWB 4.0 + a clean Workbench 3.1 = 11.477.622 bytes Since AmigaOS 3.1 (or 3.0 for that matter) is a prerequisite, BetterWB 4.0 requires well under 10MB of HDD space. If you are running out of space, you can alternatively delete documentation located in HELP: and/or icon sets you are not using which are located in SYS:Prefs/Presets/IconSets/

06 May 2016, 16:41	#50
B14ck W01f m68k all the way Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: Koalaland Posts: 523	When I installed WB on my hard drive, I used HDSetup. Not HDToolBox. As a result, it automatically created a Work: partition also. This partition uses so much space, so that's the reason why. Thanks for your help.

06 May 2016, 17:13	#51
DesktopDynamite Registered User Join Date: Mar 2016 Location: MALTA Posts: 104	Is there a tutorial on how to install betterwb onto an 8gb cf with PFS3, whdload and e.g. ag launch? Can I for e.g. boot the amiga and hold the left/right button to go straight to a whdload front end launcher such as ag launch, igame etc? TIA Sent from my GT-I9301I using Tapatalk

22 May 2016, 20:54	#52
Ratte Registered User Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Germany Posts: 331	I miss the xtreme-driver (mk2 + mk2cr) with 1280x1024. http://www.a1k.org/forum/showthread.php?t=31827 br André

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