Commodore 64 Thread - Page 23

Retro-Nerd · 12 February 2019, 02:14

Awesome. Looks great. So, Summer 2019 then.

chip · 12 February 2019, 07:09

Does exist a Windows tool to analyze D64 disk images ?

In other words, something like ADF-Workshop, but for the C64

hitchhikr · 12 February 2019, 08:31

chip: DirMaster ?

chip · 12 February 2019, 08:35

Thanks for suggest, but i would like a "specific" tool, not a general file manager which is able to look inside D64

BarryB · 12 February 2019, 22:27

Try http://www.d64editor.com

Not been updated for a while though

chip · 13 February 2019, 05:43

Thanks BarryB .... i will try it

Neil79 · 13 February 2019, 09:56

You've posted most of the stuff we've wrote about ages ago Retrofan

Baboon · 16 February 2019, 13:36

New C64 model video... [ Show youtube player ]

chip · 21 February 2019, 19:04

I used a little WinVICE 3.1 64 bit

Is that normal that it crashes a lot of times ?

Am i missing to configure some settings perhaps ?

Retro-Nerd · 21 February 2019, 19:12

No, it's not normal. Try the latest 3.2 before it got the experimental GTK3.No need for a 64bit version, 32bit is just fine.

http://www.c64games.de/phpseiten/emulatoren.php

For general info: Some games/demos with custom loaders aren't compatible with the virtual floppy option in Vice, you have to enable True Drive Emulation.

chip · 21 February 2019, 19:15

What a quick reply .... thanks

Retroplay · 21 February 2019, 19:19

GTK3 version has come a looong way since the slow and bugged pokefinder releases.
Latest 64-bit SVN compiles is in my user upload folder.
/~Uploads/Retroplay/VICE_win64/

roondar · 21 February 2019, 19:29

Hmm, I have no love for GTK3 on Windows. IMHO applications should always strive to use the target OS's native UI.

I do understand why they did it, but it has honestly made VICE less attractive to me going forward.

Retro-Nerd · 21 February 2019, 19:31

Because they want to maintain one GUI only for all platforms. And they selected the worst that you could image. Sadly. I have high hopes for Denise though, which is already a great new C64 (and later Amiga) emulator.

edit: btw: Even the current GTK3 doesn't scroll smooth (looks like 15 frames despite the fact that the internal emulator show solid 50fps). It's a mess. After such a long time they don't get it right.

Retroplay · 21 February 2019, 19:49

VICE devs did ask for maintainers for WinVICE, nobody stepped forward though.

Then again, SDL/SDL2 versions have that authentic C64 look, I quite like that.

Retro-Nerd · 21 February 2019, 19:59

True. Nobody wanted to do it. The WinVice GUI with all the renderer, input devices stuff etc was highly outdated. But GTK3 doesn't make it better i'm afraid. Even if it scrolls smooth some day.

I miss shader support, WASAPI audio, custom button mapping, integer scaling etc. The Vice team always was a Linux bunch anyway. So, no surprise here.

Anubis · 21 February 2019, 21:43

Not sure, what are those different version of vice emulator? Just compiled with different tools??

I see that nightly build has some cool features, but haven't been able to test any games with it.

Reason I disliked all versions since 2.4 on winvice is that all of sudden requires way too much resources to run - on my old mini laptop it did not run well at all.

lordofchaos · 21 February 2019, 21:51

I jumped ship from Vice a few years ago, couldn't get smooth 50hz scrolling in full screen without the sound grating.. These days I stick to Hoxs64, seems very solid and highly compatible, doesn't have much latency either using the Line-Sync option. Really like the filters on the older vice though..

Anubis · 21 February 2019, 21:59

For some stuff I am using RetroArch (windows and RPi), and I am testing Batocera as well.

On laptop I am using RetroArch, C64 games are started from LaunchBox. I have option to add different emulators, but never got time to play with them.

lordofchaos · 21 February 2019, 22:02

Yeah, RetroArch is really quite nice. Had a few issues getting c64 stuff to work, keyboard set-up I think.. For consoles it's great, had issues with Atari ST too. Choice paralysis doesn't help either.

21 February 2019, 19:31	#454
Retro-Nerd Missile Command Champion Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Germany Age: 52 Posts: 12,435	Because they want to maintain one GUI only for all platforms. And they selected the worst that you could image. Sadly. I have high hopes for Denise though, which is already a great new C64 (and later Amiga) emulator. edit: btw: Even the current GTK3 doesn't scroll smooth (looks like 15 frames despite the fact that the internal emulator show solid 50fps). It's a mess. After such a long time they don't get it right. Last edited by Retro-Nerd; 21 February 2019 at 19:44.

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12 February 2019, 02:14	#441
Retro-Nerd Missile Command Champion Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Germany Age: 52 Posts: 12,435	Awesome. Looks great. So, Summer 2019 then.

12 February 2019, 07:09	#442
chip Registered User Join Date: Oct 2012 Location: Italy Age: 49 Posts: 2,941	Does exist a Windows tool to analyze D64 disk images ? In other words, something like ADF-Workshop, but for the C64

12 February 2019, 08:31	#443
hitchhikr Registered User Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: somewhere else Posts: 510	chip: DirMaster ?

12 February 2019, 08:35	#444
chip Registered User Join Date: Oct 2012 Location: Italy Age: 49 Posts: 2,941	Thanks for suggest, but i would like a "specific" tool, not a general file manager which is able to look inside D64

12 February 2019, 22:27	#445
BarryB Amigaholic Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: UK Posts: 4,676	Try http://www.d64editor.com Not been updated for a while though

13 February 2019, 05:43	#446
chip Registered User Join Date: Oct 2012 Location: Italy Age: 49 Posts: 2,941	Thanks BarryB .... i will try it

13 February 2019, 09:56	#447
Neil79 Autistic 'n IRN! Join Date: Jul 2012 Location: - Posts: 2,978	You've posted most of the stuff we've wrote about ages ago Retrofan

16 February 2019, 13:36	#448
Baboon Moon Monkey Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: Plymouth, Devon Posts: 419	New C64 model video... [ Show youtube player ]

21 February 2019, 19:04	#449
chip Registered User Join Date: Oct 2012 Location: Italy Age: 49 Posts: 2,941	I used a little WinVICE 3.1 64 bit Is that normal that it crashes a lot of times ? Am i missing to configure some settings perhaps ?

21 February 2019, 19:12	#450
Retro-Nerd Missile Command Champion Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Germany Age: 52 Posts: 12,435	No, it's not normal. Try the latest 3.2 before it got the experimental GTK3.No need for a 64bit version, 32bit is just fine. http://www.c64games.de/phpseiten/emulatoren.php For general info: Some games/demos with custom loaders aren't compatible with the virtual floppy option in Vice, you have to enable True Drive Emulation.

21 February 2019, 19:15	#451
chip Registered User Join Date: Oct 2012 Location: Italy Age: 49 Posts: 2,941	What a quick reply .... thanks

21 February 2019, 19:19	#452
Retroplay Lemon Curry ? Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Denmark Age: 49 Posts: 4,079	GTK3 version has come a looong way since the slow and bugged pokefinder releases. Latest 64-bit SVN compiles is in my user upload folder. /~Uploads/Retroplay/VICE_win64/

21 February 2019, 19:29	#453
roondar Registered User Join Date: Jul 2015 Location: The Netherlands Posts: 3,406	Hmm, I have no love for GTK3 on Windows. IMHO applications should always strive to use the target OS's native UI. I do understand why they did it, but it has honestly made VICE less attractive to me going forward.

21 February 2019, 19:49	#455
Retroplay Lemon Curry ? Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Denmark Age: 49 Posts: 4,079	VICE devs did ask for maintainers for WinVICE, nobody stepped forward though. Then again, SDL/SDL2 versions have that authentic C64 look, I quite like that.

21 February 2019, 19:59	#456
Retro-Nerd Missile Command Champion Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Germany Age: 52 Posts: 12,435	True. Nobody wanted to do it. The WinVice GUI with all the renderer, input devices stuff etc was highly outdated. But GTK3 doesn't make it better i'm afraid. Even if it scrolls smooth some day. I miss shader support, WASAPI audio, custom button mapping, integer scaling etc. The Vice team always was a Linux bunch anyway. So, no surprise here.

21 February 2019, 21:43	#457
Anubis Retro Gamer Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Underworld Age: 51 Posts: 4,058	Not sure, what are those different version of vice emulator? Just compiled with different tools?? I see that nightly build has some cool features, but haven't been able to test any games with it. Reason I disliked all versions since 2.4 on winvice is that all of sudden requires way too much resources to run - on my old mini laptop it did not run well at all.

21 February 2019, 21:51	#458
lordofchaos TinkerTailorContentMaker Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Bedfordshire Age: 45 Posts: 1,205	I jumped ship from Vice a few years ago, couldn't get smooth 50hz scrolling in full screen without the sound grating.. These days I stick to Hoxs64, seems very solid and highly compatible, doesn't have much latency either using the Line-Sync option. Really like the filters on the older vice though..

21 February 2019, 21:59	#459
Anubis Retro Gamer Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Underworld Age: 51 Posts: 4,058	For some stuff I am using RetroArch (windows and RPi), and I am testing Batocera as well. On laptop I am using RetroArch, C64 games are started from LaunchBox. I have option to add different emulators, but never got time to play with them.

21 February 2019, 22:02	#460
lordofchaos TinkerTailorContentMaker Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Bedfordshire Age: 45 Posts: 1,205	Yeah, RetroArch is really quite nice. Had a few issues getting c64 stuff to work, keyboard set-up I think.. For consoles it's great, had issues with Atari ST too. Choice paralysis doesn't help either.

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