C64 mini

malko · 18 February 2018, 22:46

Some months ago I have heard about a C64 mini.
As many of "old"* C= user, my attention has been drawn to the stuff.
Since then it seem that the official site is in deep hibernation.
Did someone have any news about it ?

*everything is relative

spudje · 18 February 2018, 23:06

Yes, it's about to go on sale (I guess on pre-order almost everywhere) and you can find some initial reviews on Youtube.

malko · 19 February 2018, 00:44

Thanks

After seeing some videos, I actually know that the official release is for the 29.03.2018 and it will cost € 80.-
[ Show youtube player ] (in french)

demolition · 19 February 2018, 10:39

I also saw an ad with it from our local electronics-chain and they expect to have it by 27th March:
https://www.elgiganten.dk/product/ga...64-mini-konsol
The price of 699 DKK is ~94€ (including tax).

Kitty · 19 February 2018, 11:51

Pre-Ordered mine yesterday, nice little addition to have on my pc desk.
The keys are only for show though, you have to plug in a usb keyboard. It does allow you to load more games from usb stick though and the gui is lovely.
Pictures are from: https://twitter.com/llamasoft_ox

Amigajay · 19 February 2018, 12:16

Nice! This is what we need for the Amiga.

demolition · 19 February 2018, 13:02

Quote:

Originally Posted by Amigajay

Nice! This is what we need for the Amiga.

No thank you.

spudje · 19 February 2018, 14:52

So Kitty, you can now be the judge of the following. Is it the Breadbin that contains the logic or the Joystick. Rumors say, all logic is in the joystick, i.e. just a rerelease of the older Commodore 64DTV https://nl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Commodore_64_DTV and the breadbin simply acts as a HDMI adapter and USB hub.

Could you try with the breadbin and a different USB joystick instead of the one it came with?

Amigajay · 19 February 2018, 14:53

Quote:

Originally Posted by demolition

No thank you.

Why not? Its not intended for people who have Amigas, these mini devices are for nostalgia ridden people who dont want all the hassle of buying old hardware or all the pain of kickstarts, disk images and pc usage that emulation brings, exactly why the nes and snes mini consoles have sold millions is proof of that.

dalek · 19 February 2018, 14:56

Oooh teardown please! I read somehere (unverified) that it is just a C64DTV Joystick and the mini itself is just use as a breakout for USB and HDMI.

Can anyone verify please?

EDIT: lol spudje beat me to it

stainy · 19 February 2018, 15:09

Isn`t it a bit light for a C64? looks like the colour of a C16 or plus4.

Retro-Nerd · 19 February 2018, 15:13

It has no functionally keyboard, so crap. The full version with keyboard will follow later. Still crap. Indeed only a toy for nostalgia feelings. Due to license problems a lot of games are missing. The "Joystick" doesn't look like quality.

malko · 19 February 2018, 15:14

Quote:

Originally Posted by demolition

No thank you..

Why not ?!
It is also a good entry point for new generations.

Plug it on the TV and let the children play.

So question @kitty, is it worth the buy ?

demolition · 19 February 2018, 15:19

Quote:

Originally Posted by Amigajay

Why not? Its not intended for people who have Amigas, these mini devices are for nostalgia ridden people who dont want all the hassle of buying old hardware or all the pain of kickstarts, disk images and pc usage that emulation brings, exactly why the nes and snes mini consoles have sold millions is proof of that.

I can understand why someone would want to buy a product that they can just hook up to the TV, power on and start playing without hassle. But I don't get the point of putting a fake keyboard on it.

That joystick looks a lot like a C64DTV so a teardown would indeed be very interesting. The DTV was a proper ASIC design and a modern version of that with HDMI output would be nice. Then if the joystick is lousy, one could just pull out the board inside to get to the C64 which can hopefully be modded as much as a real C64DTV.

Retro-Nerd · 19 February 2018, 15:23

Quote:

Originally Posted by Amigajay

Nice! This is what we need for the Amiga.

What i would like to see is a high quality FPGA like the Super NT in a proper case with keyboard. A new Amiga with all legacy ports but modern ports too, like HDMI and USB. Well, Amiga Reloaded from icomp. Maybe.

malko · 19 February 2018, 15:49

Quote:

Originally Posted by Retro-Nerd

What i would like to see is a high quality FPGA like the Super NT in a proper case with keyboard. A new Amiga with all legacy ports but modern ports too, like HDMI and USB. Well, Amiga Reloaded from icomp. Maybe.

I only recently heard about it, are you thinking at something like the 2012 "amiga mini" from C= USA ? link (french)

The icomp.de site is impossible to browse (big menu on top, big picture at the bottom, so interesting middle part is so small that it's useless on my laptop screen...)

Retro-Nerd · 19 February 2018, 15:55

No, a keyboard Amiga like the A1200 or A500. The reloaded is planned as an A1200 similar computer in an A500 case. A hybrid of real chips and FPGA.

Full compatibility to the old software is mandatory. I don't care about the useless nextgen Amiga stuff.

http://wiki.icomp.de/wiki/Commodore_A1200_Reloaded

demolition · 19 February 2018, 16:09

Quote:

Originally Posted by malko

I only recently heard about it, are you thinking at something like the 2012 "amiga mini" from C= USA ?

That link shows a regular PC with an Amiga logo on the front, so there's not much Amiga about it, not even so-called 'next-gen' Amiga.. Although it can probably run WinUAE just like all other PCs.

Amigajay · 19 February 2018, 18:34

Quote:

Originally Posted by demolition

I can understand why someone would want to buy a product that they can just hook up to the TV, power on and start playing without hassle. But I don't get the point of putting a fake keyboard on it.

Well i guess this was for price reasons, as someone said a full version with working keyboard is coming.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Retro-Nerd

What i would like to see is a high quality FPGA like the Super NT in a proper case with keyboard. A new Amiga with all legacy ports but modern ports too, like HDMI and USB. Well, Amiga Reloaded from icomp. Maybe.

So would i, but general consumers wouldnt pay the amount this would cost, only software emulation via an ARM chip would be cheap enough to sell, but i guess this will never happen with the sad state of the Amigas IPs.

Retro-Nerd · 19 February 2018, 19:04

I will happen one day, but not for the mass market like this toys. 300-350 Euro maybe for such an Amiga like the reloaded. If not icomp then somebody else will build it. Just like the SpectrumNext or the Ultimate 64.

18 February 2018, 22:46	#1
malko Ex nihilo nihil Join Date: Oct 2017 Location: CH Posts: 4,856	C64 mini Some months ago I have heard about a C64 mini. As many of "old"* C= user, my attention has been drawn to the stuff. Since then it seem that the official site is in deep hibernation. Did someone have any news about it ? *everything is relative

19 February 2018, 11:51	#5
Kitty Registered User Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: London UK Posts: 1,532	Pre-Ordered mine yesterday, nice little addition to have on my pc desk. The keys are only for show though, you have to plug in a usb keyboard. It does allow you to load more games from usb stick though and the gui is lovely. Pictures are from: https://twitter.com/llamasoft_ox Last edited by Kitty; 19 February 2018 at 19:16. Reason: Reduced image sizes by 50%...

Similar Threads
Thread	Thread Starter	Forum	Replies	Last Post
Amiga Mini	Dunny	Amiga scene	33	19 June 2019 16:23
SNES mini	alexh	Retrogaming General Discussion	36	08 January 2018 16:13
mini arcanoid	honx	support.Games	11	01 January 2017 14:43
c64 .DATS and playing games on the C64 hardware	pubzombie	Retrogaming General Discussion	22	15 April 2011 13:40
my mini a1200	jimbob005	Hardware mods	66	01 January 2011 07:04

18 February 2018, 23:06	#2
spudje Registered User Join Date: Dec 2014 Location: Netherlands Posts: 1,406	Yes, it's about to go on sale (I guess on pre-order almost everywhere) and you can find some initial reviews on Youtube.

19 February 2018, 00:44	#3
malko Ex nihilo nihil Join Date: Oct 2017 Location: CH Posts: 4,856	Thanks After seeing some videos, I actually know that the official release is for the 29.03.2018 and it will cost € 80.- [ Show youtube player ] (in french)

19 February 2018, 10:39	#4
demolition Unregistered User Join Date: Sep 2012 Location: Copenhagen / DK Age: 43 Posts: 4,190	I also saw an ad with it from our local electronics-chain and they expect to have it by 27th March: https://www.elgiganten.dk/product/ga...64-mini-konsol The price of 699 DKK is ~94€ (including tax).

19 February 2018, 12:16	#6
Amigajay Registered User Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: > Posts: 2,881	Nice! This is what we need for the Amiga.

19 February 2018, 14:52	#8
spudje Registered User Join Date: Dec 2014 Location: Netherlands Posts: 1,406	So Kitty, you can now be the judge of the following. Is it the Breadbin that contains the logic or the Joystick. Rumors say, all logic is in the joystick, i.e. just a rerelease of the older Commodore 64DTV https://nl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Commodore_64_DTV and the breadbin simply acts as a HDMI adapter and USB hub. Could you try with the breadbin and a different USB joystick instead of the one it came with?

19 February 2018, 14:56	#10
dalek Registered User Join Date: Nov 2014 Location: NSW/Australia Posts: 462	Oooh teardown please! I read somehere (unverified) that it is just a C64DTV Joystick and the mini itself is just use as a breakout for USB and HDMI. Can anyone verify please? EDIT: lol spudje beat me to it

19 February 2018, 15:09	#11
stainy Zone Friend Join Date: Mar 2001 Location: Concord, NC, USA Age: 52 Posts: 1,712	Isn`t it a bit light for a C64? looks like the colour of a C16 or plus4.

19 February 2018, 15:13	#12
Retro-Nerd Missile Command Champion Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Germany Age: 52 Posts: 12,435	It has no functionally keyboard, so crap. The full version with keyboard will follow later. Still crap. Indeed only a toy for nostalgia feelings. Due to license problems a lot of games are missing. The "Joystick" doesn't look like quality.

19 February 2018, 15:55	#17
Retro-Nerd Missile Command Champion Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Germany Age: 52 Posts: 12,435	No, a keyboard Amiga like the A1200 or A500. The reloaded is planned as an A1200 similar computer in an A500 case. A hybrid of real chips and FPGA. Full compatibility to the old software is mandatory. I don't care about the useless nextgen Amiga stuff. http://wiki.icomp.de/wiki/Commodore_A1200_Reloaded

19 February 2018, 19:04	#20
Retro-Nerd Missile Command Champion Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Germany Age: 52 Posts: 12,435	I will happen one day, but not for the mass market like this toys. 300-350 Euro maybe for such an Amiga like the reloaded. If not icomp then somebody else will build it. Just like the SpectrumNext or the Ultimate 64.

Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests)