Relokick older games

CHRIS-F · 26 June 2016, 20:50

Hi Guys, I'm new here sorry if it's in the wrong section.

I retrieved my very dirty Amiga 500+ from the loft, (been through a roof collapse/repair) I dismantled it carefully cleaned the fdd with cotton buds and washed the yellowed case, I found a guide on removing the yellowing using b-blonde peroxide cling film and sun. it worked quite well apart from a few white blooms not really noticeable though. I was happy when it booted first time, I bought a rgb to scart cable and tried a few games.

I have a couple of questions though, some games don't work and after reading a few forums, I am assuming because it's it's a 500+ and the games are not compatible, I tried them in the winuae emulator with the same results (not working) most of the games work if I change the config to A500 with a lower kickstart, so a bit more reading and I came across relokick I tried it in winuae with a 500+ and it worked fine and the said games worked exolon, nebulus to name a few.

Now my problem is I transferred relokick to the amiga using amiga explorer and wrote it back to a real disc, but it doesn't work, I can view the read me but if I try to run relokick it crashes.

is it possible that it's being corrupted when I transfer it to disc? most games I transfer work so I'm assuming it's something else I am using relokick 1.4, any advice would be appreciated, it seems to be most of my fav games that require an older kickstart.

Also something else I noticed when cleaning it, in my sound filter section one of the diodes has been lifted at one end and soldered to a different point is that normal for these machines I can take a pic when I get a min.

Thanks,
Chris.

Sandro · 26 June 2016, 20:57

relokick is basically for the Amiga 1200, surely will not work in the A500+
you must use another kickswitch program like skick

http://aminet.net/util/boot/skick346.lha

Retro1234 · 26 June 2016, 21:00

Relokick is very much for the A500+
This is probably one of the A500+ must haves

Lord Aga · 26 June 2016, 23:16

Also, take out the battery. If it hasn't leaked yet, it will tomorrow.

ptyerman · 27 June 2016, 05:25

I always found Relokick 1.3 to be the best one for the A500+ for some reason.

CHRIS-F · 27 June 2016, 18:40

Quote:

Originally Posted by ptyerman

I always found Relokick 1.3 to be the best one for the A500+ for some reason.

I have tried searching for relokick 1.3 but can't seem to find it, can anyone point me in the right direction?

Regards,
Chris.

CHRIS-F · 27 June 2016, 18:43

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lord Aga

Also, take out the battery. If it hasn't leaked yet, it will tomorrow.

Is the battery needed for anything? I assume it's just to keep the date and time, as I only want to use the Amiga for games can it be removed for good? I could replace it and clean up the very slight corrosion if needed.

Regards,
Chris.

CHRIS-F · 27 June 2016, 18:48

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sandro

relokick is basically for the Amiga 1200, surely will not work in the A500+
you must use another kickswitch program like skick

http://aminet.net/util/boot/skick346.lha

I will give that a try, but what is this lha file business, I am a complete beginner, the extent of my Amiga use was insert a game and play, if it's not a real disc or an adf I haven't the first clue how to run it.

Regards,
Chris.

CHRIS-F · 27 June 2016, 18:51

Quote:

Originally Posted by Retro1234

Relokick is very much for the A500+
This is probably one of the A500+ must haves

Am I just using the wrong version of relokick? or is there some reason it's not booting properly? I've been trying to use version 1.4, it does indeed work in winuae with it configured as a 500+ just won't work in the real machine :-( Help!

Regards,
Chris.

Amiga1992 · 27 June 2016, 18:51

Chris-F, don't listen to what Sandro says, it's a load of shit.
skick won't work in your setup with only 1MB RAM because it uses proper KS images. Relokick uses a cut-down kickstart image that would fit better in a 1MB Amiga.

Relokick 1.4 will work fine on an A500+ as much as it does on an A600. I used it plenty in my A600 back in the day .

You need to discard the possibility of transfer or write corruption, after that, you don't say much about the problem but "doesn't work". Doesn't work how? Black screen? Doesn't "degrade"? Please be a little bit more specific.

zipper · 27 June 2016, 19:34

Quote:

Originally Posted by CHRIS-F

Am I just using the wrong version of relokick? or is there some reason it's not booting properly? I've been trying to use version 1.4, it does indeed work in winuae with it configured as a 500+ just won't work in the real machine :-( Help!

When it's telling "kicking up" remove the relokick floppy.

CHRIS-F · 27 June 2016, 21:08

Quote:

Originally Posted by zipper

When it's telling "kicking up" remove the relokick floppy.

Yes, I tried this in winuae and it works fine but it doesn't get that far on the real amiga, I will try again later and will see exactly what it does, I think it was just flashing the power and disc light and then just hanging.

Regards,
Chris.

Retro1234 · 27 June 2016, 21:47

Relokick 1.3 is probably on the EAB file server or here
http://amr.abime.net/issue_443_coverdisks

zipper · 27 June 2016, 21:50

Just try the other versions, 1.3 / 1.41 / 1.4a

zipper · 27 June 2016, 21:52

ftp://ftp:any@grandis.nu/TheZone/fil...floppies!].rar

-Acid- · 28 June 2016, 00:02

Quote:

Originally Posted by CHRIS-F

Is the battery needed for anything? I assume it's just to keep the date and time

That's about it only of use in Workbench really for timestamps on files and displaying the time. Amigas function perfectly fine without one.

CHRIS-F · 28 June 2016, 21:44

Quote:

Originally Posted by Akira

Chris-F, don't listen to what Sandro says, it's a load of shit.
skick won't work in your setup with only 1MB RAM because it uses proper KS images. Relokick uses a cut-down kickstart image that would fit better in a 1MB Amiga.

Relokick 1.4 will work fine on an A500+ as much as it does on an A600. I used it plenty in my A600 back in the day .

You need to discard the possibility of transfer or write corruption, after that, you don't say much about the problem but "doesn't work". Doesn't work how? Black screen? Doesn't "degrade"? Please be a little bit more specific.

I checked last night, I am actually using relokick v1.41, I put the disc in and get the GEESUS logo, left click and it loads the intro, if I right click I get the read me that works fine, but when I left click to run relokick I get the message "Software Faliure Kick141, program failure (error #80000003) wait for disc activity to finish, suspend or reboot".

Regards,
Chris.

CHRIS-F · 28 June 2016, 21:47

Quote:

Originally Posted by zipper

ftp://ftp:any@grandis.nu/TheZone/fil...floppies!].rar

Thanks for that, will try a different version as soon as I get a min, much appreciated :-)

Regards,
Chris.

CHRIS-F · 28 June 2016, 21:55

Thanks Guys, I will try to dump one of the other versions back to disc and see how I get on :-) thanks for the advice/links, much appreciated.

Regards,
Chris.

spannernick · 02 July 2016, 13:23

Are you still using a drive,get a Gotek for it,are you sure the disk you are copying Relokick to is ok..?

You can get Relokick 1.3 here.. Under applications..https://www.dropbox.com/sh/r44ycp3zj...3zgguojwa?dl=0

26 June 2016, 20:50	#1
CHRIS-F Registered User Join Date: Jun 2016 Location: Liverpool Posts: 37	Relokick older games Hi Guys, I'm new here sorry if it's in the wrong section. I retrieved my very dirty Amiga 500+ from the loft, (been through a roof collapse/repair) I dismantled it carefully cleaned the fdd with cotton buds and washed the yellowed case, I found a guide on removing the yellowing using b-blonde peroxide cling film and sun. it worked quite well apart from a few white blooms not really noticeable though. I was happy when it booted first time, I bought a rgb to scart cable and tried a few games. I have a couple of questions though, some games don't work and after reading a few forums, I am assuming because it's it's a 500+ and the games are not compatible, I tried them in the winuae emulator with the same results (not working) most of the games work if I change the config to A500 with a lower kickstart, so a bit more reading and I came across relokick I tried it in winuae with a 500+ and it worked fine and the said games worked exolon, nebulus to name a few. Now my problem is I transferred relokick to the amiga using amiga explorer and wrote it back to a real disc, but it doesn't work, I can view the read me but if I try to run relokick it crashes. is it possible that it's being corrupted when I transfer it to disc? most games I transfer work so I'm assuming it's something else I am using relokick 1.4, any advice would be appreciated, it seems to be most of my fav games that require an older kickstart. Also something else I noticed when cleaning it, in my sound filter section one of the diodes has been lifted at one end and soldered to a different point is that normal for these machines I can take a pic when I get a min. Thanks, Chris.

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26 June 2016, 20:57	#2
Sandro Banned Join Date: Feb 2013 Location: spain Posts: 897	relokick is basically for the Amiga 1200, surely will not work in the A500+ you must use another kickswitch program like skick http://aminet.net/util/boot/skick346.lha

26 June 2016, 21:00	#3
Retro1234 Phone Homer Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: 5150 Posts: 5,773	Relokick is very much for the A500+ This is probably one of the A500+ must haves

26 June 2016, 23:16	#4
Lord Aga MI clan prevails Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: Belgrade, Serbia Posts: 1,443	Also, take out the battery. If it hasn't leaked yet, it will tomorrow.

27 June 2016, 05:25	#5
ptyerman Registered User Join Date: Jun 2012 Location: Worksop/UK Age: 59 Posts: 1,328	I always found Relokick 1.3 to be the best one for the A500+ for some reason.

27 June 2016, 18:51	#10
Amiga1992 Registered User Join Date: May 2001 Location: ? Posts: 19,645	Chris-F, don't listen to what Sandro says, it's a load of shit. skick won't work in your setup with only 1MB RAM because it uses proper KS images. Relokick uses a cut-down kickstart image that would fit better in a 1MB Amiga. Relokick 1.4 will work fine on an A500+ as much as it does on an A600. I used it plenty in my A600 back in the day . You need to discard the possibility of transfer or write corruption, after that, you don't say much about the problem but "doesn't work". Doesn't work how? Black screen? Doesn't "degrade"? Please be a little bit more specific.

27 June 2016, 21:47	#13
Retro1234 Phone Homer Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: 5150 Posts: 5,773	Relokick 1.3 is probably on the EAB file server or here http://amr.abime.net/issue_443_coverdisks

27 June 2016, 21:50	#14
zipper Registered User Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: finland Posts: 1,837	Just try the other versions, 1.3 / 1.41 / 1.4a

27 June 2016, 21:52	#15
zipper Registered User Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: finland Posts: 1,837	ftp://ftp:any@grandis.nu/TheZone/fil...floppies!].rar

28 June 2016, 21:55	#19
CHRIS-F Registered User Join Date: Jun 2016 Location: Liverpool Posts: 37	Thanks Guys, I will try to dump one of the other versions back to disc and see how I get on :-) thanks for the advice/links, much appreciated. Regards, Chris.

02 July 2016, 13:23	#20
spannernick Retro Nuts Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: London/UK Age: 53 Posts: 1,184	Are you still using a drive,get a Gotek for it,are you sure the disk you are copying Relokick to is ok..? You can get Relokick 1.3 here.. Under applications..https://www.dropbox.com/sh/r44ycp3zj...3zgguojwa?dl=0

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