Cadaver hard-to-reach rooms

[demoniac]

In Level 4, there are at 3 least rooms that I'm unable to reach. Judging by the online solutions, they weren't reached either. Has anyone reached them?

The first one is Room #75 that's east of the room one starts from in Level 4. One can see it's outlined in green on the right hand map.

[demoniac]

The second one (Room #64) labeled Kings Room is disconnected from everything else. I don't think this is a game internal room.

[demoniac]

The third Level 4 room (Room #65), Lesser Store, is also disjointed from the others.

[jotd]

I just remember that the game doesn't remove or create objects, it just teleports them to/from unreachable rooms.

What a great game! Tremendous work from Kroah and his viewer/disassembly.

[demoniac]

I believe these room are accessible somehow. The map spell seems to randomly generate the map as I had different results the 2 times that I cast it.

Room #65 seem to show up one time.



Kroah's viewer is terrific. Had to use an old laptop to use it.

[jotd]

then it means that you can be teleported there. I played a lot but don't remember all details. This looks like level 4.

[demoniac]

Originally Posted by jotd

then it means that you can be teleported there. I played a lot but don't remember all details. This looks like level 4.

Yep, see below. I only included the rooms that I think aren't used by the game's internals (or unreachable rooms like you called them).

Originally Posted by demoniac

In Level 4, there are at 3 least rooms that I'm unable to reach. Judging by the online solutions, they weren't reached either. Has anyone reached them?

I'm pretty much done with this level. I will try a few things before moving on.

[jotd]

it's frustating but the most likely explanation is that those rooms aren't connected to anything.

The kings room seems to have a lot of objects in it. Looks like storage...

The fact that those rooms aren't necessary to finish the levels / don't contain necessary objects to move to the next level are an extra clue.

[demoniac]

Room #75 (the room next to the where the player starts for Level 4) is connected by a locked door.

I'm not certain if the following clue is for it or something else.



These rooms aren't necessary as the solutions and longplays all skip them. 94% completion is the max so far.

[jotd]

the locked door symbolizes the door you entered the level. You can't go there.

(I don't remember this particular case, but you'll notice that in all start of levels there's a locked door, except in the first level where you arrive by boat)

Yeah!! I love this game. We've been blessed by 3 demo levels + 5 regular levels + 4 payoff levels. Hard as nails too.

[kamelito]

My brother played Cadaver to death and finished it.
I remember that he didn’t knew how pass a door.
What he did was to collect enough objects to be higher than the door climb to the top and jump to the other side.
Doing so make the game crawl but it worked.

[jotd]

You cannot pass doors by just piling objects.

You can use that to escape bars inside a room though. I used that technique with candles and other narrow & high objects.

Beware as sometimes by doing so you workaround certain puzzles and you get stuck. Happened to me on level 3.

[demoniac]

Originally Posted by jotd

the locked door symbolizes the door you entered the level. You can't go there.

This isn't the case with Level 4 as you come up these stairs that disappear with the message, "The way back is closed for ever [sic]". Room #75 is to the east of here as one can see the door that's locked.

Originally Posted by jotd

Yeah!! I love this game. We've been blessed by 3 demo levels + 5 regular levels + 4 payoff levels. Hard as nails too.

This game has certainly grown on me. Like you, I didn't like it when I first tried it.

[demoniac]

Originally Posted by kamelito

I remember that he didn’t knew how pass a door.
What he did was to collect enough objects to be higher than the door climb to the top and jump to the other side.
Doing so make the game crawl but it worked.

Hmmm, I'll give this shot whenever I return to it. Maybe tomorrow.

[jotd]

If you can pass a door like that I'd like a video! It is also cheating as I'm pretty sure the designers would not allow it.

[malko]

^ it is certainly a feature

[jotd]

the above pic is just 16 colors! I remembed vividly the moment I reached level 4, more than 30 years ago!! I was just in awe!

[demoniac]

Originally Posted by demoniac

Hmmm, I'll give this shot whenever I return to it. Maybe tomorrow.

I stacked objects and gotten one with 5 potions height. Standing from the stack, I was unable to walk or jump over into the locked room. Casting unlock door spell didn't work either.

Likely the east and west locked doors at the exit room don't have anything to do with the Lesser Store and Kings Room, but I was surprised they were still locked after using the 4 gold keys to exit the level when stepping in the center square. I'll see if I can open the east and west doors from those rooms.

[demoniac]

Checking the W door of the level exit room, part of the reason why I didn't pull on the lever on the other side was due to this message:



Unlocking it didn't seem to affect anything for me.

[jotd]

unlock door spell notoriously only works where the game designers said it would

Still mysteries in this great game I see