Atlantyda - Clean Disk? - Page 2

Asman · 30 August 2017, 09:52

@mai - Yes values are disk positions in decimal, but I still don't understand. Can you explain a bit more about this bad bytes, where they located or so. Thank you.

mai · 30 August 2017, 12:08

See picture in post #5 of this thread!
The bad bytes are in rootblock of the disk.
I am not at home right now, so cant tell you exact disk position.
Compare available Atlantyda disks by using a hex editor!
The difference in rootblock are some of the bad bytes - result of doscopy on NDOS disk!
$6E014 if i remember correctly.

...see also this post for detailed information:
http://eab.abime.net/showpost.php?p=...&postcount=584

the question still remains, is it worth for more investigations!?
There is still no longplay available to see if this corrupt bytes have any visible influence.
I think this corrupt data has no serious damage in this case.

mai · 30 August 2017, 17:09

@Asman
now i am confused,
this uploaded file "06-gameData"
comes not from uploaded "Atlantyda.adf" crc32=3470E515

ok, i see its from WHDLoad image.

btw: just a proof:
extract "06-gameData" from each known Atlantyda disk and the file has always different crc32!!

...and see what happens if you use Workbench Diskcopy command, the destination disk has different crc32. because diskcopy writes data to rootblock(checksum), this is just fine for pure DOS disks but for NDOS disks its sometimes fatal, especially if packed data are affected.
This is not the first time that a publisher mastered a disk with such an issue:
Lollypop from Rainbow Arts, SPS release Lollypop (1995)(Rainbow Arts)[2864], they later published version without this issue.

DamienD · 30 August 2017, 17:28

Quote:

Originally Posted by mai

ok, i see its from WHDLoad image.

...and this contains the disk (CRC32 = 1703627B).

mai · 30 August 2017, 17:57

so, volunteers for doing a longplay

, this game looks not that bad, maybe a nice platform puzzle game, where are the gamer here?

s2325 · 30 August 2017, 18:48

Dan Warren recorded ending
[ Show youtube player ]

honx · 30 August 2017, 19:06

what does this ending say? can't read anyhing there...
is there any english version of this game?

s2325 · 30 August 2017, 19:16

"Evil sorcerer was defeated. Atlantis is rising from ocean and inhabitants can back now to their houses."

hipoonios · 30 August 2017, 19:29

Quote:

Originally Posted by mai

so, volunteers for doing a longplay, this game looks not that bad, maybe a nice platform puzzle game, where are the gamer here?

I'm here

Good to know the game can be played to the end - Will do a longplay soon. Will also try Lazarus, which seems to be another good Polish platform game.

honx · 30 August 2017, 19:34

why are polish games only available in polish language?
that's a big downside which locks out non polish users.
english is world language which everyone understands.

s2325 · 30 August 2017, 19:36

I think Lazarus is much better. No pits without exit, no "dancing" floor.

mai · 30 August 2017, 19:39

Quote:

Originally Posted by hipoonios

I'm here

nice

, please post here, if you notice any corruption (graphics, sound)!

mai · 30 August 2017, 20:00

Quote:

Originally Posted by haynor666

I recently played this game from original disk (works fine on A1200 with EC030) that's why I

can you create disk image of your original disk?

DamienD · 30 August 2017, 23:51

Quote:

Originally Posted by haynor666

mai: disk in the zone

This has a completely different CRC32 to the other 4 posted here.

This "new" disk has CRC32 = 0B260F27

...unfortunately it still has the same bad stuff as detailed here:

30 August 2017, 12:08	#22
mai Registered User Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Federativnaya Respublika Germaniya Posts: 4,994	See picture in post #5 of this thread! The bad bytes are in rootblock of the disk. I am not at home right now, so cant tell you exact disk position. Compare available Atlantyda disks by using a hex editor! The difference in rootblock are some of the bad bytes - result of doscopy on NDOS disk! $6E014 if i remember correctly. ...see also this post for detailed information: http://eab.abime.net/showpost.php?p=...&postcount=584 the question still remains, is it worth for more investigations!? There is still no longplay available to see if this corrupt bytes have any visible influence. I think this corrupt data has no serious damage in this case. Last edited by mai; 30 August 2017 at 16:00.

30 August 2017, 17:09	#23
mai Registered User Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Federativnaya Respublika Germaniya Posts: 4,994	@Asman now i am confused, this uploaded file "06-gameData" comes not from uploaded "Atlantyda.adf" crc32=3470E515 ok, i see its from WHDLoad image. btw: just a proof: extract "06-gameData" from each known Atlantyda disk and the file has always different crc32!! ...and see what happens if you use Workbench Diskcopy command, the destination disk has different crc32. because diskcopy writes data to rootblock(checksum), this is just fine for pure DOS disks but for NDOS disks its sometimes fatal, especially if packed data are affected. This is not the first time that a publisher mastered a disk with such an issue: Lollypop from Rainbow Arts, SPS release Lollypop (1995)(Rainbow Arts)[2864], they later published version without this issue. Last edited by mai; 30 August 2017 at 17:38.

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30 August 2017, 09:52	#21
Asman 68k Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Somewhere Posts: 828	@mai - Yes values are disk positions in decimal, but I still don't understand. Can you explain a bit more about this bad bytes, where they located or so. Thank you.

30 August 2017, 17:57	#25
mai Registered User Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Federativnaya Respublika Germaniya Posts: 4,994	so, volunteers for doing a longplay, this game looks not that bad, maybe a nice platform puzzle game, where are the gamer here?

30 August 2017, 18:48	#26
s2325 Zone Friend Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Gargore Age: 43 Posts: 17,789	Dan Warren recorded ending [ Show youtube player ]

30 August 2017, 19:06	#27
honx Registered User Join Date: Oct 2014 Location: Klagenfurt / Austria Posts: 1,569	what does this ending say? can't read anyhing there... is there any english version of this game?

30 August 2017, 19:16	#28
s2325 Zone Friend Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Gargore Age: 43 Posts: 17,789	"Evil sorcerer was defeated. Atlantis is rising from ocean and inhabitants can back now to their houses."

30 August 2017, 19:34	#30
honx Registered User Join Date: Oct 2014 Location: Klagenfurt / Austria Posts: 1,569	why are polish games only available in polish language? that's a big downside which locks out non polish users. english is world language which everyone understands.

30 August 2017, 19:36	#31
s2325 Zone Friend Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Gargore Age: 43 Posts: 17,789	I think Lazarus is much better. No pits without exit, no "dancing" floor.

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