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Old 01 September 2017, 19:38   #221
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Because the serial port is dog slow and uses lots of CPU If you have a big box Amiga the X-Surf 100 is not too unreasonably priced.
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Old 01 September 2017, 21:08   #222
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I still don't get why you have an ethernet cable, can't you just wire this to the serial port and have a SLIP connection? It would save you a lot of cable fuckery and headaches.
Ok, let me explain it for you then...

Serial port, 57600 baud to be reliable, 5-6k/sec, CPU drain.
Ethernet, 100Mbit/sec, more than 500k/sec, no CPU drain.

See??!

The simple serial line between Amiga serial port and the Pi is so I have console access to the pi, in case I want to reinstall it from scratch, debug the kernel or whatever.

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If I understood right, you are connecting them through a NIC. So you need an Amiga NIC (not the easiest/cheapest thing to find and run, I never managed to get a PCMCIA card working).
Of course, PCMCIA, or in this case, the SDIO slot of the Vampire V600-V2.

I cannot believe you never got PCMCIA ethernet card to work, that is like the simplest Amiga networking option ever - way easier than messing with SLIP!

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If you do serial the GPIO to serial module is really cheap and widely available and you canwire it straight to the AMIga.
Not directly, no. You need MAX3232 chip to do leveling, the Amiga runs at 5V, the Raspberry pi at 3.3V. Well, the MAX3232 chip you see there on the wire is the "GPIO to serial module" you speak of.
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Old 01 September 2017, 21:37   #223
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I cannot believe you never got PCMCIA ethernet card to work, that is like the simplest Amiga networking option ever - way easier than messing with SLIP!
Tried both the 3Com and prism based ones. Never worked. Gave up.

CPU overhead is interesting, but how bad is it? How can we measure it?
If you only do things like Telnet, FTP and IRC, for example? No shitty web browsing.
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Old 03 September 2017, 01:01   #224
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Tried both the 3Com and prism based ones. Never worked. Gave up.
Prism is wifi, not ethernet - different beast all-together.

You should go for NE2000/CNET cards, or specifically those 3Com cards supported by 3c589.device.

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CPU overhead is interesting, but how bad is it? How can we measure it?
If you only do things like Telnet, FTP and IRC, for example?
Depends on what baud rate you want/expect. Of course, if you set it to 9600, you will do just fine, 19200 is typically OK too, 38400 and 57600 and you may start noticing jerkiness on the mouse pointer on traffic, and 115200 and you avoid doing anything on the system, holding your breath while the a file transfer is going, praying it will not do too many retransfer attempts.

It is not for nothing that alternative serial port solutions came around, the built in Amiga serial port sucks.

http://www.bigbookofamigahardware.co...ist.aspx?id=19
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Old 03 September 2017, 01:20   #225
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Right, I plan to make a card I can just stuff into one of the ISA slots in the A3000, for power etc. But so far it is just a card-board box, and power comes from Amiga PSU floppy power connector).
I made a card board prototype today, just to see if a Pi will run from the 5V out of the ISA extension slot. It does, it works, so guess I will draw and order a "proper" board
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Old 03 September 2017, 03:28   #226
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Old 03 September 2017, 03:32   #227
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You should go for NE2000/CNET cards, or specifically those 3Com cards supported by 3c589.device.
Indeed. Get a card with the wrong chipset, and it's NEVER going to work.
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Old 04 September 2017, 20:45   #228
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I have a plipbox on my A500 and it's very good. For downloading stuff from aminet or transferring things across the network it does the job. Transfer speeds faster than serial and no noticeable impact on workbench.
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