OS4.1 FE in WinUAE, blizzard PPC instead of cyberstorm PPC

jonssonj · 06 February 2015, 10:03

Hello all!

Now when I have AmigaOS 4.1 installed with cyberstorm PPC emulation, I experience that the memory of 128MB is not enough.

I was trying to do the installation with Blizzard PPC emulation instead, because of it supporting 256MB of memory, but I do not know which (SCSI/IDE) I should use. I have tried with IDE (Auto) and with SCSI (Auto), I have tried with A4000 (IDE), Apollo IDE and some more options, but I can't get the CD-reader to read from the OS4 installation CD.

The furthest I have come is to be able to load the AmigaOS 4.1 FE kickstart, but then it refuses to recognize that there is a CD inserted. It will not boot from the CD.

So, What should IDE option should I use in WinUAE together with Blizzard PPC?

BR
Jörgen

Toni Wilen · 06 February 2015, 11:17

Check OS4.x hardware requirements. A1200 mainboard IDE only. Put HD in IDE0 and CD in IDE1. BPPC SCSI is _not_ supported by OS4.

Make sure you use correct A1200 KS ROM and emulated hardware is A1200.

Snake79 · 06 February 2015, 19:50

I have tried the A1200 Blizzard PPC 256MB / IDE, but it was sooo slooow, day and night difference in comparison with A4000 Cyberstorm PPC 128MB / SCSI... Sadly...

jonssonj · 06 February 2015, 19:52

So, A1200 mainboard IDE only, is it the one called "IDE (Auto)"? Because I can't find anything named A1200 in the controller list when creating the hardfile.

Anyway, it seemed to work with IDE (Auto), I could add the SFS/02 filesystem, partition the disk, format the disk and install the OS4.1 without any problems. When rebooting I get a requester from "Smart File System" that says:

================================
Device DH0: (scsi.device, unit 0)

There was an error while accessing this volume:

General device failure.
The disk is in an unreadable format.

errorcode = 20
io_Command=2
io_Offset=1887428608
io_Length=8192
io_Actual=0
==============================

First I thought that maybe the IDE on the A1200, could'nt handle the 3,6GB size, so I tried one more time with only 1,6GB System disk, but with the same result.

Does the SFS/02 work on A1200 IDE controller? or should I try some other filesystem? Or did I choose the wrong harddrive controller ( IDE (Auto) )?

Here is my config and log files from WinUAE.
winuae_debug.zip

BR
Jörgen Jönsson

Snake79 · 06 February 2015, 20:01

http://radzikpl.blogspot.de/2015/01/...a1200-ppc.html
It's in Polish language, but there are screenshots of the whole installation process...

jonssonj · 07 February 2015, 20:15

Hello!

I followed the guide on the polish site, and it worked, so now I have a working installation of OS 4.1 FE with 256MB Memory instead.

Yes, it takes a little longer to load, compared to the cyberstorm SCSI, but I don't think it matter. When it is loaded it is quite responsive anyway.

BUT, I have one more problem. I can't seem to have more than ONE harddrive. I have tried to make another hardfile in WinUAE with standard filesystem, and MediaToolbox can find the harddrive, I can create a partition on it, I can add a filesystem to it and I can save all changes to the disk, but it never shows up, as an uninitialized volume. The format program does not find it. Why is this? Is it impossible to have two harddrives in A1200 with BlizzPPC? I thought it had support for up to four devices on the IDE controller, anyway it should at least have support for TWO, because I could have the boot drive and the CD, simultaneously, So how do I do to create another harddrive to make it visible in OS4.1FE:s format program?

I have tried to use IDE 1 and IDE 2, but it has not worked.

BR
Jörgen

Snake79 · 07 February 2015, 21:02

Try creating new dynamic disk (no bootable) under a1200 config in Workbench3.x (HDToolBox), restart, then format it in FFS f.e., then add created one to AOS4.1 A1200 config (IDE auto). I don't have A1200 AOS4.1 HDF (vhd) anymore, so i can't try it, BUT i have added successfully new one to A4000 config 5min ago using this method and it worked.
PS. must be RDB mode for sure as Toni said

Toni Wilen · 07 February 2015, 21:21

RDB mode is enabled? Trying to partition non-RDB hardfile will cause strange side-effects.

jonssonj · 10 February 2015, 10:47

Hello!

It was a OS4.x thing. I had to enable IDEFix Express function in the OS, by editing the

"Sys:Kickstart/KickLayout-A1200"

I removed the leading semicolon on the line:
"MODULE Kickstart/A1200/ATAPIismajik"

and now I can have up to four devices.

BR
Jörgen

06 February 2015, 10:03	#1
jonssonj Registered User Join Date: Jan 2015 Location: Bjärred Posts: 20	OS4.1 FE in WinUAE, blizzard PPC instead of cyberstorm PPC Hello all! Now when I have AmigaOS 4.1 installed with cyberstorm PPC emulation, I experience that the memory of 128MB is not enough. I was trying to do the installation with Blizzard PPC emulation instead, because of it supporting 256MB of memory, but I do not know which (SCSI/IDE) I should use. I have tried with IDE (Auto) and with SCSI (Auto), I have tried with A4000 (IDE), Apollo IDE and some more options, but I can't get the CD-reader to read from the OS4 installation CD. The furthest I have come is to be able to load the AmigaOS 4.1 FE kickstart, but then it refuses to recognize that there is a CD inserted. It will not boot from the CD. So, What should IDE option should I use in WinUAE together with Blizzard PPC? BR Jörgen

07 February 2015, 21:02	#7
Snake79 Registered User Join Date: Feb 2014 Location: Poland Posts: 190	Try creating new dynamic disk (no bootable) under a1200 config in Workbench3.x (HDToolBox), restart, then format it in FFS f.e., then add created one to AOS4.1 A1200 config (IDE auto). I don't have A1200 AOS4.1 HDF (vhd) anymore, so i can't try it, BUT i have added successfully new one to A4000 config 5min ago using this method and it worked. PS. must be RDB mode for sure as Toni said Last edited by Snake79; 07 February 2015 at 21:26.

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06 February 2015, 11:17	#2
Toni Wilen WinUAE developer Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Hämeenlinna/Finland Age: 49 Posts: 26,506	Check OS4.x hardware requirements. A1200 mainboard IDE only. Put HD in IDE0 and CD in IDE1. BPPC SCSI is _not_ supported by OS4. Make sure you use correct A1200 KS ROM and emulated hardware is A1200.

06 February 2015, 19:50	#3
Snake79 Registered User Join Date: Feb 2014 Location: Poland Posts: 190	I have tried the A1200 Blizzard PPC 256MB / IDE, but it was sooo slooow, day and night difference in comparison with A4000 Cyberstorm PPC 128MB / SCSI... Sadly...

06 February 2015, 19:52	#4
jonssonj Registered User Join Date: Jan 2015 Location: Bjärred Posts: 20	So, A1200 mainboard IDE only, is it the one called "IDE (Auto)"? Because I can't find anything named A1200 in the controller list when creating the hardfile. Anyway, it seemed to work with IDE (Auto), I could add the SFS/02 filesystem, partition the disk, format the disk and install the OS4.1 without any problems. When rebooting I get a requester from "Smart File System" that says: ================================ Device DH0: (scsi.device, unit 0) There was an error while accessing this volume: General device failure. The disk is in an unreadable format. errorcode = 20 io_Command=2 io_Offset=1887428608 io_Length=8192 io_Actual=0 ============================== First I thought that maybe the IDE on the A1200, could'nt handle the 3,6GB size, so I tried one more time with only 1,6GB System disk, but with the same result. Does the SFS/02 work on A1200 IDE controller? or should I try some other filesystem? Or did I choose the wrong harddrive controller ( IDE (Auto) )? Here is my config and log files from WinUAE. winuae_debug.zip BR Jörgen Jönsson

06 February 2015, 20:01	#5
Snake79 Registered User Join Date: Feb 2014 Location: Poland Posts: 190	http://radzikpl.blogspot.de/2015/01/...a1200-ppc.html It's in Polish language, but there are screenshots of the whole installation process...

07 February 2015, 20:15	#6
jonssonj Registered User Join Date: Jan 2015 Location: Bjärred Posts: 20	Hello! I followed the guide on the polish site, and it worked, so now I have a working installation of OS 4.1 FE with 256MB Memory instead. Yes, it takes a little longer to load, compared to the cyberstorm SCSI, but I don't think it matter. When it is loaded it is quite responsive anyway. BUT, I have one more problem. I can't seem to have more than ONE harddrive. I have tried to make another hardfile in WinUAE with standard filesystem, and MediaToolbox can find the harddrive, I can create a partition on it, I can add a filesystem to it and I can save all changes to the disk, but it never shows up, as an uninitialized volume. The format program does not find it. Why is this? Is it impossible to have two harddrives in A1200 with BlizzPPC? I thought it had support for up to four devices on the IDE controller, anyway it should at least have support for TWO, because I could have the boot drive and the CD, simultaneously, So how do I do to create another harddrive to make it visible in OS4.1FE:s format program? I have tried to use IDE 1 and IDE 2, but it has not worked. BR Jörgen

07 February 2015, 21:21	#8
Toni Wilen WinUAE developer Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Hämeenlinna/Finland Age: 49 Posts: 26,506	RDB mode is enabled? Trying to partition non-RDB hardfile will cause strange side-effects.

10 February 2015, 10:47	#9
jonssonj Registered User Join Date: Jan 2015 Location: Bjärred Posts: 20	Hello! It was a OS4.x thing. I had to enable IDEFix Express function in the OS, by editing the "Sys:Kickstart/KickLayout-A1200" I removed the leading semicolon on the line: "MODULE Kickstart/A1200/ATAPIismajik" and now I can have up to four devices. BR Jörgen

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