ADF to floppy, without hastle?

Hammy · 15 April 2003, 18:39

how do i put an .adf file onto a floppy on pc?
i tried the tequilla program, but faild misrabley.

Severin · 15 April 2003, 22:21

You can't (not without a lot of hassle) PC floppies are not compatible with the amiga floppy format, most ADF images are of 880k floppies, some old PC drives can be modified to work on amiga's but they stop working on PC's

The easiest way is to dump them on a cd, bung it in an amiga and copy them to floppy there

you must have an amiga or know someone who has or you wouldn't want them on floppy, so all you need is a cdrom drive connected to it and one of many software utils on aminet to write the floppies...

Hammy · 15 April 2003, 22:53

i watnted them so i could use them on my amiga, i havent got a cd for my amiga, i got my amiga second hand with just about nothing, i diddnt get a workbench disk

scaf · 15 April 2003, 23:51

i use a null-modem serial cable between the amiga and the PC.
Then i use this disk : http://amigadump.emu-france.com/fichier.php?id=115 on the amiga.

This disk can read 720Kb PC disks, and send/receive ADFs through the serial link (Amiga floppy to ADF on PC, and ADF on PC to Amiga floppy).

If you want to use this method, and really have no workbench floppy, you'll have to find someone near you who can send you this disk (in order to have the less postal charges).

Drake1009 · 16 April 2003, 00:07

Well if he could get a program which could transfer directly and write to disk there are a couple of games which boot into a sort of workbench when booting from them. Games such as Sim city and many others.

Problem would be the lack of a way to actually transfer the program to the Amiga to use it there.

Hammy · 16 April 2003, 22:02

nope, i really dont have a workbench disk...
isnt there a program that will write ADF's on pc?

scaf · 17 April 2003, 00:17

Hammy : definitly not. The PC can't write an amiga floppy.
The program Disk2FDI can force the PC to read an amiga disk an make an ADF, but can't write an ADF to an amiga disk.
Just copying the adf on a floppy isn't enough, because the ADF contains "control areas" which indicate the ADF is an amiga floppy.
You 'll need an amiga program, like transwarp, transdisk, ADF2disk... to write the ADF on a real amiga disk.
Transwarp is on the "ADFDump" disk i gave you the link above.

Drake & Hammy : only a disk that has a minimal workbench, with CLI and serial.library, a null modem serial cable, and a software, like "ADF Sender Terminal" are needed.
Then, follow instructions here : http://homepage.uibk.ac.at/homepage/...l/methods.html

After these instructions, ADFDump can be transfered, and making ADFs from Amiga disks, and making Amiga disks from ADFs will be easier.

But, as i remember, Hammy has no amiga disk at all...

Severin · 17 April 2003, 00:21

Which amiga did you get?

I'll try to sort out some system disks for you if they're not too old...

PM or email me to sort out details...

Hammy · 17 April 2003, 10:58

so that tequilla program was fake?, i should've known..

scaf: where can i get a serial cable from?

Severin: thanks! ive pm'ed you details about my amiga and what disks were with it..

scaf · 17 April 2003, 13:42

you can buy a serial cable in any computer shop.
i think they're always too expensive.

You build it yourself, just follows the instructions :
http://www.technick.net/public/code/...08e49a9f317b76

If the link doesn't work, go to www.technick.net, click on "pinouts", then on "cables". You'll be able to choose you null-modem cable to build.

Hammy · 17 April 2003, 21:39

so there's no special serial cable?
cool

scaf · 17 April 2003, 23:33

yes.

No need in a special cable.
Just remember the serial cable used to connect Amiga <-> PC is null-modem . Don't use a modem cable : they're not the same.

Hammy · 18 April 2003, 11:52

scaf:
hmmm, ok, so i need a null modem :)
but on my pc the serial port is smaller...

Severin:
Thanks allot :))))) is there anything you want in return?

Steve · 18 April 2003, 12:35

Quote:

Originally posted by Hammy
scaf:
hmmm, ok, so i need a null modem
but on my pc the serial port is smaller...

Yes, as well as the Null Modem (Serial) cable you will also have to buy a little 25pin->9pin converter plug that plugs into your PC's COM port and then you can plug the cable into that. For transfering to my Amiga I use a 25 pin female Null Modem cable and a small adapter which connects the other end of the cable into my PC's 9 pin COM port. The adapter only costs about 3 or 4 pounds so it's not expensive.

STOP THE PRESS!

I've found you don't actually need that adapter. For £5.99 you can buy a 25pin female to 9pin female Null Modem cable from Maplin.

http://www.maplin.co.uk/products/mod...10&modulecode=

Hammy · 18 April 2003, 13:50

sweet

thanks all for your help..

))))

Severin · 18 April 2003, 14:02

Quote:

Originally posted by Hammy

Severin:
Thanks allot )))) is there anything you want in return?

No M8, I'll stick the WB disks¹ in the post after the bank holiday, the post office is shut till then anyway

¹yes I mean disks, all mine are ancient, so I'm sending 3 copies, hopefully between them you can get 1 working one...

PS. you also have my permission to seriously damage whoever sold/gave you an Amiga without a workbench disk...

Hammy · 18 April 2003, 15:26

some bloke called 'ian'(or someone called ian was related to it) at a carboot sale sold it to me for £5.50..
i doubt i will see him again..

anyway, thanks again!

Hammy · 24 April 2003, 22:13

the've arrived

i got a couple working (!)
thanks a million!!

how do i customise the backgrounds?

Severin · 24 April 2003, 22:57

erm, pass, I've not used 1.3 in over 12 years

can anyone out there still using (or remember) 1.3 help out here?

scaf · 24 April 2003, 23:29

i've never seen a customized background under 1.3 .
You can only customize colours.

15 April 2003, 18:39	#1
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15 April 2003, 22:21	#2
Severin Registered User Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Gloucester / UK Posts: 700	You can't (not without a lot of hassle) PC floppies are not compatible with the amiga floppy format, most ADF images are of 880k floppies, some old PC drives can be modified to work on amiga's but they stop working on PC's The easiest way is to dump them on a cd, bung it in an amiga and copy them to floppy there you must have an amiga or know someone who has or you wouldn't want them on floppy, so all you need is a cdrom drive connected to it and one of many software utils on aminet to write the floppies...

15 April 2003, 22:53	#3
Hammy Junior Member Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: England Age: 36 Posts: 113	i watnted them so i could use them on my amiga, i havent got a cd for my amiga, i got my amiga second hand with just about nothing, i diddnt get a workbench disk

15 April 2003, 23:51	#4
scaf Registered User Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: france Age: 48 Posts: 116	i use a null-modem serial cable between the amiga and the PC. Then i use this disk : http://amigadump.emu-france.com/fichier.php?id=115 on the amiga. This disk can read 720Kb PC disks, and send/receive ADFs through the serial link (Amiga floppy to ADF on PC, and ADF on PC to Amiga floppy). If you want to use this method, and really have no workbench floppy, you'll have to find someone near you who can send you this disk (in order to have the less postal charges).

16 April 2003, 00:07	#5
Drake1009 Registered User Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Denmark Posts: 2,284	Well if he could get a program which could transfer directly and write to disk there are a couple of games which boot into a sort of workbench when booting from them. Games such as Sim city and many others. Problem would be the lack of a way to actually transfer the program to the Amiga to use it there.

16 April 2003, 22:02	#6
Hammy Junior Member Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: England Age: 36 Posts: 113	nope, i really dont have a workbench disk... isnt there a program that will write ADF's on pc?

17 April 2003, 00:17	#7
scaf Registered User Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: france Age: 48 Posts: 116	Hammy : definitly not. The PC can't write an amiga floppy. The program Disk2FDI can force the PC to read an amiga disk an make an ADF, but can't write an ADF to an amiga disk. Just copying the adf on a floppy isn't enough, because the ADF contains "control areas" which indicate the ADF is an amiga floppy. You 'll need an amiga program, like transwarp, transdisk, ADF2disk... to write the ADF on a real amiga disk. Transwarp is on the "ADFDump" disk i gave you the link above. Drake & Hammy : only a disk that has a minimal workbench, with CLI and serial.library, a null modem serial cable, and a software, like "ADF Sender Terminal" are needed. Then, follow instructions here : http://homepage.uibk.ac.at/homepage/...l/methods.html After these instructions, ADFDump can be transfered, and making ADFs from Amiga disks, and making Amiga disks from ADFs will be easier. But, as i remember, Hammy has no amiga disk at all...

17 April 2003, 00:21	#8
Severin Registered User Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Gloucester / UK Posts: 700	Which amiga did you get? I'll try to sort out some system disks for you if they're not too old... PM or email me to sort out details...

17 April 2003, 10:58	#9
Hammy Junior Member Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: England Age: 36 Posts: 113	so that tequilla program was fake?, i should've known.. scaf: where can i get a serial cable from? Severin: thanks! ive pm'ed you details about my amiga and what disks were with it..

17 April 2003, 13:42	#10
scaf Registered User Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: france Age: 48 Posts: 116	you can buy a serial cable in any computer shop. i think they're always too expensive. You build it yourself, just follows the instructions : http://www.technick.net/public/code/...08e49a9f317b76 If the link doesn't work, go to www.technick.net, click on "pinouts", then on "cables". You'll be able to choose you null-modem cable to build.

17 April 2003, 21:39	#11
Hammy Junior Member Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: England Age: 36 Posts: 113	so there's no special serial cable? cool

17 April 2003, 23:33	#12
scaf Registered User Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: france Age: 48 Posts: 116	yes. No need in a special cable. Just remember the serial cable used to connect Amiga <-> PC is null-modem . Don't use a modem cable : they're not the same.

18 April 2003, 11:52	#13
Hammy Junior Member Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: England Age: 36 Posts: 113	scaf: hmmm, ok, so i need a null modem :) but on my pc the serial port is smaller... Severin: Thanks allot :))))) is there anything you want in return?

18 April 2003, 13:50	#15
Hammy Junior Member Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: England Age: 36 Posts: 113	sweet thanks all for your help.. ))))

18 April 2003, 15:26	#17
Hammy Junior Member Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: England Age: 36 Posts: 113	some bloke called 'ian'(or someone called ian was related to it) at a carboot sale sold it to me for £5.50.. i doubt i will see him again.. anyway, thanks again!

24 April 2003, 22:13	#18
Hammy Junior Member Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: England Age: 36 Posts: 113	the've arrived i got a couple working (!) thanks a million!! how do i customise the backgrounds?

24 April 2003, 22:57	#19
Severin Registered User Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Gloucester / UK Posts: 700	erm, pass, I've not used 1.3 in over 12 years can anyone out there still using (or remember) 1.3 help out here?

24 April 2003, 23:29	#20
scaf Registered User Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: france Age: 48 Posts: 116	i've never seen a customized background under 1.3 . You can only customize colours.

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