Hombre Project - PC to Amiga - Page 3

alexh · 01 February 2007, 15:52

Quote:

Originally Posted by EmuChicken

ADZ's are just zipped ADF files...

Not true. They are GZipped, not PKZipped. Why would you spread such false rumours?

Quote:

Originally Posted by EmuChicken

rename the ADZ to .zip and you can usually extract the adf like you would a normal zip file.

If you can do that, then your "zip" archive program (WinRAR or WinZip etc.) supports GZip. They are definately NOT PKZip files.

Look at the proof on the web

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amiga_Disk_File

Quote:

Originally Posted by Wiki

There is also an ADF file format called ADZ which is a Gzip compressed ADF file.

http://www.convert-extensions.com/fo...isk-Image.html

Quote:

ADZ - Amiga GZ-Packed Disk Image (Amiga)

killergorilla · 01 February 2007, 16:59

I don't think emu was contradicting anyone

He's very simple and only knows 'zip'. PKZip and GZip to him are types of motor oil.

alexh · 01 February 2007, 20:06

Oh, ok. My bad.

ppill · 06 February 2007, 22:26

Hombre's nearly there. (Bear with me guys

)

I just want to add extra keymaps to the devs/keymaps folder and as I got only two (usa1, dk) I wondered if some of you would be so kind and send a couple more

(especially for those german keyboards). There's a program on the disk to make your own keymaps (SetKey) but still it would be nice to have some readymade ones.

Thanks
email:
ppill_you-know-what-to-add_tlen.pl

EmuChicken · 07 February 2007, 06:04

uh, didnt mean to get you in a chuff... as kg said, yeah I thought all zip files were similar, yet I was wrong... I'm used to the "PKZip" on the pc, obviously its a different system then, doh!

I'm more of an Amiga gamer btw :-p

alexh · 07 February 2007, 09:52

FYI: Zip is the compression algorithm. GZip just applies that compression to the binary file it is given.

PKZip is an Archiver which uses the zip compression algorithm. Archiver means that it can bring together multiple files (and directories) into one file before compression and put them back on decompression.

Although in no way the same, PKZip is akin to Tar-GZip.

EmuChicken · 07 February 2007, 10:26

Quote:

Archiver means that it can bring together multiple files (and directories) into one file before compression and put them back on decompression.

With that line alone I feel like you're playing me like a complete dumbass. thanks.

I was under the impression that all zip archivers followed the similar algorythm, possibly in a different way, so all zip archivers basically created the similar file in the end which was portable as to speak. Obviously you cant open LHA files using pkunzip or whatever, I just thought all Zip files followed the same type.

As I said before, PKzip/ PKUnzip command lines were released on the PC, and pretty much set the standard for ZIP on the PC (Winzip just followed that as a Win32 executable / GUI) ... but if for the Amiga PKUnzip made a different format, as you said... fair enough.

heres another cheer for the people who get on off on knowing more than other people and rubbing it in their faces.

hope you had a good one

alexh · 07 February 2007, 10:50

Hey you are smarter than me. I had to look up "Archiver" in this context before I knew what it meant

killergorilla · 07 February 2007, 11:02

So Gzip can only be used on single files?

EDIT: Which I presume is why files are tar.gz because the tar is used to archive all of the gzip files together

coze · 07 February 2007, 12:47

Quote:

Originally Posted by killergorilla

Which I presume is why files are tar.gz because the tar is used to archive all of the gzip files together

wow. totally off topic but this talk had just enlightened me on one of linux's mysteries

thanks !

killergorilla · 07 February 2007, 13:22

Yeah sorry for drifting off topic, I never knew this before today

(If I was correct!)

I do really like this Hombre project, seems exactly what the Amiga community needs. I hope NOT to see this on ebay in a month however!

ppill · 07 February 2007, 17:59

Quote:

Originally Posted by killergorilla

So Gzip can only be used on single files?

EDIT: Which I presume is why files are tar.gz because the tar is used to archive all of the gzip files together

Well, it's the other way around. You tar all the files together and then gzip it

ppill · 07 February 2007, 18:08

Quote:

Originally Posted by killergorilla

I do really like this Hombre project, seems exactly what the Amiga community needs. I hope NOT to see this on ebay in a month however!

If any nobhead tries to sell it then I'm just gonna have inform the moderators/administrators of a site and simply inform them that what a given user is doing is against the law. Simple.

I want Hombre to spread just like the disks in the good old days -- swapping. I'll start a thread once it's released asking for links to sites from various countries where people could ask someone to send them a copy.

For example in Poland you should find people willing to send anyone a disk (for a small fee covering the price of a disk and postage) on these sites:

www.ppa.pl
www.exec.pl
www.cconline.pl
www.amiscena.org

ppill · 01 March 2007, 11:29

Since links on other sites point to this thread (thanks Sune for spreading the word), I'd just like to add that the first public release of Hombre is out and you can get it here:

http://wiki.abime.net/transfer:Hombre

Fingerlickin_B · 02 March 2007, 11:59

Quote:

Originally Posted by ppill

Since links on other sites point to this thread (thanks Sune for spreading the word), I'd just like to add that the first public release of Hombre is out and you can get it here:

http://wiki.abime.net/transfer:Hombre

Checking it out for sure!

PZ.

alexh · 11 March 2007, 14:27

Is it possible to have Compact Flash Device installed on the Hombre disk so that it mounts the card if present?

Then A600/A1200 users with no hard drive can use a compact Flash card + PCMCIA adapter to transfer files to their Amiga for dumping?

FAT95 is already on the disk.

I know it is a bit out of the scope of Hombre but if there is room on the disk and it wouldnt screw anything up on Amiga's with no PCMCIA port it would be good.

ppill · 11 March 2007, 15:13

I'm just working on the next release and I've got 100kb free space on the disk. I've got to fit a PowerPacker compatible TextViewer, docs, some sort of AUX: device and other bits and pieces. If there will be any space left I can't see why not.
But I'm already working on something better for A1200 users. Booting ClassiWB setups from HDF files on a CF FAT formatted card

Check this thread:
http://eab.abime.net/showthread.php?t=28217

frantic · 01 June 2007, 02:20

@ppill: Let me know if you need help with testing or something. I have a 1.3 a500 with harddrive and a nice null modem cable.

ppill · 01 June 2007, 10:16

Thanks for the offer. Next release is almost ready (if I get my sh*t together it should be out next week). If you've got a working WinUAE setup, HyperTerminal (or some other term) and ADF Sender Terminal you can try all the features regarding serial transfers. Just tell me where to send an ADF with the latest version

frantic · 14 June 2007, 20:13

Did this project get finished?

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01 February 2007, 16:59	#42
killergorilla Lesser Talent Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: UK Age: 42 Posts: 7,957	I don't think emu was contradicting anyone He's very simple and only knows 'zip'. PKZip and GZip to him are types of motor oil.

01 February 2007, 20:06	#43
alexh Thalion Webshrine Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Oxford Posts: 14,354	Oh, ok. My bad.

06 February 2007, 22:26	#44
ppill CON: artist Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Poland Age: 43 Posts: 1,250	Hombre's nearly there. (Bear with me guys ) I just want to add extra keymaps to the devs/keymaps folder and as I got only two (usa1, dk) I wondered if some of you would be so kind and send a couple more (especially for those german keyboards). There's a program on the disk to make your own keymaps (SetKey) but still it would be nice to have some readymade ones. Thanks email: ppill_you-know-what-to-add_tlen.pl

07 February 2007, 06:04	#45
EmuChicken Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Nagoya, Japan (moved!) Age: 41 Posts: 746	uh, didnt mean to get you in a chuff... as kg said, yeah I thought all zip files were similar, yet I was wrong... I'm used to the "PKZip" on the pc, obviously its a different system then, doh! I'm more of an Amiga gamer btw :-p

07 February 2007, 09:52	#46
alexh Thalion Webshrine Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Oxford Posts: 14,354	FYI: Zip is the compression algorithm. GZip just applies that compression to the binary file it is given. PKZip is an Archiver which uses the zip compression algorithm. Archiver means that it can bring together multiple files (and directories) into one file before compression and put them back on decompression. Although in no way the same, PKZip is akin to Tar-GZip.

07 February 2007, 10:50	#48
alexh Thalion Webshrine Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Oxford Posts: 14,354	Hey you are smarter than me. I had to look up "Archiver" in this context before I knew what it meant

07 February 2007, 11:02	#49
killergorilla Lesser Talent Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: UK Age: 42 Posts: 7,957	So Gzip can only be used on single files? EDIT: Which I presume is why files are tar.gz because the tar is used to archive all of the gzip files together

07 February 2007, 13:22	#51
killergorilla Lesser Talent Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: UK Age: 42 Posts: 7,957	Yeah sorry for drifting off topic, I never knew this before today (If I was correct!) I do really like this Hombre project, seems exactly what the Amiga community needs. I hope NOT to see this on ebay in a month however!

01 March 2007, 11:29	#54
ppill CON: artist Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Poland Age: 43 Posts: 1,250	Since links on other sites point to this thread (thanks Sune for spreading the word), I'd just like to add that the first public release of Hombre is out and you can get it here: http://wiki.abime.net/transfer:Hombre

11 March 2007, 14:27	#56
alexh Thalion Webshrine Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Oxford Posts: 14,354	Is it possible to have Compact Flash Device installed on the Hombre disk so that it mounts the card if present? Then A600/A1200 users with no hard drive can use a compact Flash card + PCMCIA adapter to transfer files to their Amiga for dumping? FAT95 is already on the disk. I know it is a bit out of the scope of Hombre but if there is room on the disk and it wouldnt screw anything up on Amiga's with no PCMCIA port it would be good.

11 March 2007, 15:13	#57
ppill CON: artist Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Poland Age: 43 Posts: 1,250	I'm just working on the next release and I've got 100kb free space on the disk. I've got to fit a PowerPacker compatible TextViewer, docs, some sort of AUX: device and other bits and pieces. If there will be any space left I can't see why not. But I'm already working on something better for A1200 users. Booting ClassiWB setups from HDF files on a CF FAT formatted card Check this thread: http://eab.abime.net/showthread.php?t=28217

01 June 2007, 02:20	#58
frantic Registered User Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Lund / Sweden Posts: 19	@ppill: Let me know if you need help with testing or something. I have a 1.3 a500 with harddrive and a nice null modem cable.

01 June 2007, 10:16	#59
ppill CON: artist Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Poland Age: 43 Posts: 1,250	Thanks for the offer. Next release is almost ready (if I get my sh*t together it should be out next week). If you've got a working WinUAE setup, HyperTerminal (or some other term) and ADF Sender Terminal you can try all the features regarding serial transfers. Just tell me where to send an ADF with the latest version

14 June 2007, 20:13	#60
frantic Registered User Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Lund / Sweden Posts: 19	Did this project get finished?

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