Ambermoon whdload ? - Page 4

Wolfus · 19 November 2011, 18:00

Ambermoon is probably the most user friendly game ever made. I don't understand why are you people so lazy. Just download it here http://hobring.esero.net/games.htm and you have all the comfort of WHD version...

Dwyloc · 23 November 2011, 21:49

@Wolfus
Silly question but how does that help fix any of the bugs that need to be patched to make the English version completable?

And wont help at all running it on an Amiga :-)

meynaf · 24 November 2011, 10:54

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Originally Posted by Dwyloc

@Wolfus
Silly question but how does that help fix any of the bugs that need to be patched to make the English version completable?

And wont help at all running it on an Amiga :-)

If what you want is just having english (1.07) version that can be finished, patches already exist for that. Just replace original files by these found here :
http://meynaf.free.fr/tmp/amberpatch.lzx

Dwyloc · 24 November 2011, 12:59

Quote:

Originally Posted by meynaf

If what you want is just having english (1.07) version that can be finished, patches already exist for that. Just replace original files by these found here :
http://meynaf.free.fr/tmp/amberpatch.lzx

Thanks I was sure I needed a pack to make the game finish-able does this one fix all the known crashes with the 1.07?

There are also 2 different 040/060 patches on aminet Do I need them as well if I want the game to work on my A1200 Tower with a Blizzard 040 card? or am I better off just installing the game on my ECS 68k Minimig with 2MB chip and 1.5MB slow ram.

Thanks for the help, I have wanted to play Ambermoon for a number of years but so far I have been put off by the need to work round issues rather than having a pack such as the ones normally offered by whdload to work round any issues.

meynaf · 26 November 2011, 09:16

My patch allows finishing the game on my A1200/030 ; I did it several times.
So I guess it's fine this way.

alexh · 26 November 2011, 20:53

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Originally Posted by meynaf

If what you want is just having english (1.07) version that can be finished, patches already exist for that.

There are no need for any patches to finish English v1.07. I did it myself before I ever released it to the world. Ok so patches are required to make all areas accessible but those areas are not needed to finish the game.

dlfrsilver · 26 November 2011, 21:55

Well, the game in english needs to be Ok ; all areas should be accessible since the devs means it to be like this, no ?

meynaf · 28 November 2011, 10:00

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Originally Posted by alexh

There are no need for any patches to finish English v1.07. I did it myself before I ever released it to the world. Ok so patches are required to make all areas accessible but those areas are not needed to finish the game.

Of course, but you knew the game in advance and all the tricks that are necessary to get past problematic areas.

A new player certainly does not want to crash at some parts, even if they can be avoided.

macce2 · 26 March 2012, 19:21

Btw... I suppose someone there have noticed the recent update in the Amberworlds site:
http://amberworld.sourceforge.net/ambrwrld.htm ;-)

- If I were a (680x0 expert) coder, I'd be in this project, too...

Washac · 14 May 2020, 21:55

Last I heard of this game the English version had issues that would cause problems that meant you could not finish the game without messing with files
things, like moving files from the working german version etc to get you past certain points in the game.

Has the English version over the years ever been fixed to solve these issues and if so where I can get a working disk version and/or a WHDload version ?

Solo Kazuki · 14 May 2020, 21:59

Yes. From Grandis. Download version with Meynaf patch.

Washac · 14 May 2020, 22:00

Quote:

Originally Posted by Solo Kazuki

Yes. From Grandis.

Ah yes thank you

jotd · 14 May 2020, 22:03

shouldn't Meynaf patch be included in the whdload install package?

alexh · 15 May 2020, 01:36

You can play the game to the end without messing with any files there are one or two places the game crashes but they are all side quests and not needed to finish the game. The Meynaf patch brings together lots of fixes discovered by lots of people for the main crashes and a few textual errors. It doesn't fix them all but quite a lot. The WHDload patch isn't needed. The original HD installer plus the Meynaf patch is all you need

kriz · 15 May 2020, 01:41

A WHDload patch is always good to have if you ask me

meynaf · 15 May 2020, 08:12

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Originally Posted by kriz

A WHDload patch is always good to have if you ask me

For having what, a quit option ? It's already there. There is nothing whdload would bring, apart using more memory and/or messing the display while doing file i/o.

dlfrsilver · 15 May 2020, 09:51

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Originally Posted by meynaf

For having what, a quit option ? It's already there. There is nothing whdload would bring, apart using more memory and/or messing the display while doing file i/o.

this game still needs a lot of fixing, some spells are not working correctly and make the amiga crash.

And next, there are some patching i did myself that are needed to get the game parts. One of them is oblitered due to an error, that makes you miss a big chunk of the story.

meynaf · 15 May 2020, 10:19

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Originally Posted by dlfrsilver

this game still needs a lot of fixing, some spells are not working correctly and make the amiga crash.

And next, there are some patching i did myself that are needed to get the game parts. One of them is oblitered due to an error, that makes you miss a big chunk of the story.

This has nothing to do with whdload. The game can be patched directly, and already has for a lot of things - including unavailable game part.

Washac · 15 May 2020, 11:09

OK, just to get things straight in Retroplays WHDLoad files there is an Ambermoon V2, can this version be played from start to finish ?

Solo Kazuki · 15 May 2020, 11:12

It depends what version was used, if not this patched by Meynaf then no.

Better listen what Meynaf said and get normal (not WHDLoad) version with Meynaf patch. WHDLoad version of this game is without sense.

Edit: Don't get me wrong, i'm for WHDLoad overall. But there are some games which are better in standard version and Ambermoon is one of them.

15 May 2020, 11:12	#80
Solo Kazuki Registered User Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Poland Posts: 1,301	It depends what version was used, if not this patched by Meynaf then no. Better listen what Meynaf said and get normal (not WHDLoad) version with Meynaf patch. WHDLoad version of this game is without sense. Edit: Don't get me wrong, i'm for WHDLoad overall. But there are some games which are better in standard version and Ambermoon is one of them. Last edited by Solo Kazuki; 15 May 2020 at 11:18.

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19 November 2011, 18:00	#61
Wolfus Registered User Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Slovakia Age: 41 Posts: 84	Ambermoon is probably the most user friendly game ever made. I don't understand why are you people so lazy. Just download it here http://hobring.esero.net/games.htm and you have all the comfort of WHD version...

23 November 2011, 21:49	#62
Dwyloc Registered User Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Glasgow, Scotland Age: 47 Posts: 81	@Wolfus Silly question but how does that help fix any of the bugs that need to be patched to make the English version completable? And wont help at all running it on an Amiga :-)

26 November 2011, 09:16	#65
meynaf son of 68k Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Lyon / France Age: 51 Posts: 5,323	My patch allows finishing the game on my A1200/030 ; I did it several times. So I guess it's fine this way.

26 November 2011, 21:55	#67
dlfrsilver CaptainM68K-SPS France Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Melun nearby Paris/France Age: 46 Posts: 10,413	Well, the game in english needs to be Ok ; all areas should be accessible since the devs means it to be like this, no ?

26 March 2012, 19:21	#69
macce2 Retro maniac Join Date: May 2005 Location: Finland Age: 49 Posts: 1,219	Btw... I suppose someone there have noticed the recent update in the Amberworlds site: http://amberworld.sourceforge.net/ambrwrld.htm ;-) - If I were a (680x0 expert) coder, I'd be in this project, too...

14 May 2020, 21:55	#70
Washac Junior Member Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: UK Southern End Posts: 704	Last I heard of this game the English version had issues that would cause problems that meant you could not finish the game without messing with files things, like moving files from the working german version etc to get you past certain points in the game. Has the English version over the years ever been fixed to solve these issues and if so where I can get a working disk version and/or a WHDload version ?

14 May 2020, 21:59	#71
Solo Kazuki Registered User Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Poland Posts: 1,301	Yes. From Grandis. Download version with Meynaf patch.

14 May 2020, 22:03	#73
jotd This cat is no more Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: FRANCE Age: 52 Posts: 8,170	shouldn't Meynaf patch be included in the whdload install package?

15 May 2020, 01:36	#74
alexh Thalion Webshrine Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Oxford Posts: 14,340	You can play the game to the end without messing with any files there are one or two places the game crashes but they are all side quests and not needed to finish the game. The Meynaf patch brings together lots of fixes discovered by lots of people for the main crashes and a few textual errors. It doesn't fix them all but quite a lot. The WHDload patch isn't needed. The original HD installer plus the Meynaf patch is all you need

15 May 2020, 01:41	#75
kriz Junior Member Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: No(R)Way Age: 41 Posts: 3,188	A WHDload patch is always good to have if you ask me

15 May 2020, 11:09	#79
Washac Junior Member Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: UK Southern End Posts: 704	OK, just to get things straight in Retroplays WHDLoad files there is an Ambermoon V2, can this version be played from start to finish ?

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