CD-32 exclusive games ?

Overdoc · 19 June 2006, 00:37

Hi !

Just wanted to know if there ever existed some CD-32 exclusive games ? I mean such which actually made use of the Akiko chip so you cannot play them on a unexpanded A-1200 ?

Also, which games only appeared on the CD-32 ? e.g. Flink, Litil Divil,... ? ( these are playable on an AGA Amiga in cracked versions, right ?! so no exclusive CD-32...)

Anyone has a list ?
Thanks !!

wanderer · 19 June 2006, 01:18

It's not a list but... Microcosm

Dizzy · 19 June 2006, 16:20

By Exclusive I would take it's not avaible on any other machine either, and Microcosm is avaible on alot of console

Overdoc · 19 June 2006, 23:02

Ok, but doesn't have to be really exclusive.
I would be happy with some more CD-32 games which won't work on any other Amiga, even in cracked versions. Are there any more ?

wanderer · 19 June 2006, 23:15

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dizzy

By Exclusive I would take it's not avaible on any other machine either, and Microcosm is avaible on alot of console

Yeah, I tend to ignore non-Commodore machines...

musashi5150 · 19 June 2006, 23:52

Quote:

Originally Posted by Overdoc

Ok, but doesn't have to be really exclusive.
I would be happy with some more CD-32 games which won't work on any other Amiga, even in cracked versions. Are there any more ?

I heard Wing Commander uses the Akiko, so maybe that can't work on other Amigas...

wanderer · 20 June 2006, 00:06

Wasn't Akiko one the greatest hoax ever? I mean, what the hell, we heard so much at the time (PC-3D-type games easily on the Amiga etc...), but nothing, absolutely nothing happenned with it.

RetroMan · 20 June 2006, 00:10

Sorry, but even Microcosm works on a real A1200/A4000 without Akiko

I´m pretty sure there is NO CD32 game that cannot be run on any other AGA Amiga

Overdoc · 20 June 2006, 18:09

Hmm, that's a pity

So why do so many people love the CD-32 then ?
Are there any good demos which show what would have been possible on this console ?

I have never dealt much with the CD-32, but I thought there was more difference between a CD-32 and an AGA Amiga than between a CDTV and a Amiga-500.
So, was the CD-32 just an A-1200 with CD-ROM for gamers who wouldn't want to deal with a computer instead ?

RetroMan · 20 June 2006, 18:30

Quote:

Originally Posted by Overdoc

So, was the CD-32 just an A-1200 with CD-ROM for gamers who wouldn't want to deal with a computer instead ?

Uhhhh .... yes

Except the fact, that you can get more movie scenes etc. on a CD than you can get on any Disk

z00mba · 20 June 2006, 19:03

Wing Commander CD32 does use Akiko, the version ripped for Amiga AGA are patched to replace calls to Akiko with some software C2P functions.

redblade · 23 June 2006, 06:51

how good and fast is Akiko?

good enough to run a flawless version of Wolf3d?

good enough for warcraft and perhaps warcraft2?

musashi5150 · 23 June 2006, 10:25

On my SX32-Pro Akiko C2P is faster than CPU+Blitter C2P - but it's not MEGA fast... it still can't do 320x256 1x1 in 1 frame.

Slayer · 24 June 2006, 08:14

hey now...

CD32 does have SVHS... a standard someone told me years ago would be phased out... I looked at him like he had two heads... even now, the SVHS widescreen display on my 29" digital tv (set for widescreen) is better than the HDTV display on my 32" widescreen tv (default widescreen)

sure the pixel ratio etc might be slightly different and if the HDTV was 720 or 1080 etc it might look better but
I expected a little more significance...

anyway, also, the cd32 had the FMV unit... I made the mistake of selling my years ago (how did I know they would
become rather hard to get later

) but since then in
recent years acquired two now... heh

anyway, back in the early 90s... I was going to generate Imagine animations and save them out in widescreen frames (believe it or not) compile an mpeg from them, use a worm
drive, create a cd etc, play mpeg through SHVS at real
speed etc...

never happened but hey, would have made a good impression
way back then...

but enough about the business side of Amigas in the early 90s...

jimbo100 · 14 July 2006, 12:41

Quote:

Originally Posted by Slayer

anyway, also, the cd32 had the FMV unit... I made the mistake of selling my years ago (how did I know they would
become rather hard to get later

) but since then in
recent years acquired two now... heh

How did you find two? I can only find silly prices on Ebay. Who on earth would pay $400AUS (160 UK Pounds) for a mpeg FMV cartridge?

musashi5150 · 14 July 2006, 14:11

Quote:

Originally Posted by jimbo100

Who on earth would pay $400AUS (160 UK Pounds) for a mpeg FMV cartridge?

Somebody who wants it more than you

Slayer · 14 July 2006, 14:43

don't get them started musashi5150

I can't stand those dweebs who simply must inform us that there is 999 different things more worth while to spend our money on than something 'god forbid' that we actually want...

anyway to elaborate somewhat I actually paid about $350 for the FMV unit I reclaimed... I had decided earlier I'd pay up to $1500...

musashi5150 · 14 July 2006, 15:06

Indeed, I agree. When I bought my GVP A530 from eBay I got it for £80, but I'd have paid up to £200 for it

jimbo100 · 14 July 2006, 18:23

Quote:

Originally Posted by Slayer

anyway to elaborate somewhat I actually paid about $350 for the FMV unit I reclaimed... I had decided earlier I'd pay up to $1500...

Can I just ask why? I can't really believe you would pay $1500 for what a $50 DVD player could so a lot better?

musashi5150 · 14 July 2006, 20:50

Quote:

Originally Posted by jimbo100

Can I just ask why? I can't really believe you would pay $1500 for what a $50 DVD player could so a lot better?

While waiting for Mr Slayer I'll give my point of view. It's not about the money, or necessarily about what the FMV unit does - it's about having a CD32 with FMV capability because he WANTS one.

I bought my whole PC for £600 GBP. It does pretty much EVERYTHING 'better' than my Amiga 4000. But I was happy to spend £600 GBP on an 68060 processor and a graphics card for the Amiga - because I WANTED it.

It just depends what your passion is. Perhaps you don't love the CD32 as much as Slayer does - but it doesn't matter, does it? As long as he is happy.

My friends at work think I'm stupid because I'd spend £15K GBP on an old Honda NSX, but I would really like one if I had that kind of money spare. They would all be happy riding around in stock Peugoet/Renault etc. It just depends on what you really like in life I guess...

19 June 2006, 00:37	#1
Overdoc Commodore Collector Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Austria Age: 53 Posts: 944	CD-32 exclusive games ? Hi ! Just wanted to know if there ever existed some CD-32 exclusive games ? I mean such which actually made use of the Akiko chip so you cannot play them on a unexpanded A-1200 ? Also, which games only appeared on the CD-32 ? e.g. Flink, Litil Divil,... ? ( these are playable on an AGA Amiga in cracked versions, right ?! so no exclusive CD-32...) Anyone has a list ? Thanks !!

20 June 2006, 19:03	#11
z00mba Registered User Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Fr Age: 47 Posts: 185	Wing Commander CD32 does use Akiko, the version ripped for Amiga AGA are patched to replace calls to Akiko with some software C2P functions. Last edited by z00mba; 20 June 2006 at 22:40.

23 June 2006, 10:25	#13
musashi5150 move.w #$4489,$dff07e Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Norfolk, UK Age: 42 Posts: 2,351	On my SX32-Pro Akiko C2P is faster than CPU+Blitter C2P - but it's not MEGA fast... it still can't do 320x256 1x1 in 1 frame. Last edited by musashi5150; 23 June 2006 at 10:30.

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19 June 2006, 01:18	#2
wanderer I want an A1000 Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Pac-Land Posts: 738	It's not a list but... Microcosm

19 June 2006, 16:20	#3
Dizzy Pirate Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Denmark Posts: 3,395	By Exclusive I would take it's not avaible on any other machine either, and Microcosm is avaible on alot of console

19 June 2006, 23:02	#4
Overdoc Commodore Collector Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Austria Age: 53 Posts: 944	Ok, but doesn't have to be really exclusive. I would be happy with some more CD-32 games which won't work on any other Amiga, even in cracked versions. Are there any more ?

20 June 2006, 00:06	#7
wanderer I want an A1000 Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Pac-Land Posts: 738	Wasn't Akiko one the greatest hoax ever? I mean, what the hell, we heard so much at the time (PC-3D-type games easily on the Amiga etc...), but nothing, absolutely nothing happenned with it.

20 June 2006, 00:10	#8
RetroMan Registered User Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Germany Age: 51 Posts: 3,704	Sorry, but even Microcosm works on a real A1200/A4000 without Akiko I´m pretty sure there is NO CD32 game that cannot be run on any other AGA Amiga

20 June 2006, 18:09	#9
Overdoc Commodore Collector Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Austria Age: 53 Posts: 944	Hmm, that's a pity So why do so many people love the CD-32 then ? Are there any good demos which show what would have been possible on this console ? I have never dealt much with the CD-32, but I thought there was more difference between a CD-32 and an AGA Amiga than between a CDTV and a Amiga-500. So, was the CD-32 just an A-1200 with CD-ROM for gamers who wouldn't want to deal with a computer instead ?

23 June 2006, 06:51	#12
redblade Zone Friend Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Middle Earth Age: 40 Posts: 2,127	how good and fast is Akiko? good enough to run a flawless version of Wolf3d? good enough for warcraft and perhaps warcraft2?

24 June 2006, 08:14	#14
Slayer Amiga Member Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: New Zealand Age: 56 Posts: 695	hey now... CD32 does have SVHS... a standard someone told me years ago would be phased out... I looked at him like he had two heads... even now, the SVHS widescreen display on my 29" digital tv (set for widescreen) is better than the HDTV display on my 32" widescreen tv (default widescreen) sure the pixel ratio etc might be slightly different and if the HDTV was 720 or 1080 etc it might look better but I expected a little more significance... anyway, also, the cd32 had the FMV unit... I made the mistake of selling my years ago (how did I know they would become rather hard to get later ) but since then in recent years acquired two now... heh anyway, back in the early 90s... I was going to generate Imagine animations and save them out in widescreen frames (believe it or not) compile an mpeg from them, use a worm drive, create a cd etc, play mpeg through SHVS at real speed etc... never happened but hey, would have made a good impression way back then... but enough about the business side of Amigas in the early 90s...

14 July 2006, 14:43	#17
Slayer Amiga Member Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: New Zealand Age: 56 Posts: 695	don't get them started musashi5150 I can't stand those dweebs who simply must inform us that there is 999 different things more worth while to spend our money on than something 'god forbid' that we actually want... anyway to elaborate somewhat I actually paid about $350 for the FMV unit I reclaimed... I had decided earlier I'd pay up to $1500...

14 July 2006, 15:06	#18
musashi5150 move.w #$4489,$dff07e Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Norfolk, UK Age: 42 Posts: 2,351	Indeed, I agree. When I bought my GVP A530 from eBay I got it for £80, but I'd have paid up to £200 for it

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