Amiga Inc. will die in the current bad economy? Opinions?

Pyromania · 18 February 2009, 19:08

Amiga Inc. will die in the current bad economy? Opinions?

They recently lost their main financier due to death. Sorry to hear about that, it's never good when anyone dies. Our guess is that AI will die in the current bad climate that is the world economy. They have no compelling new products and have alienated the Amiga community for years. AA2 appears dead and the Win Mobile market it requires to survive is struggling against Nokia, iPhone, Blackberry & Google Andriod.

DoogUK · 18 February 2009, 19:15

I can see it happening to be honest, god knows where Amiga will end up if it becomes so.

I've never once thought that their mobile phone route was going to be successful for them.

Retro-Nerd · 18 February 2009, 19:20

It's time to bury this shitty firm once and for all.... and now back to our still working classic Amigas. Hurray!!!

pubzombie · 18 February 2009, 19:32

silver linings and all that! Perhaps a new company will buy up the name and things will be better? perhaps the/a community could buy the name and do great things with it?
can i have lots of kewl things please
Pz

Galahad/FLT · 18 February 2009, 19:33

I didn't even know they were still going.

As far as I am concerned, Amiga is dead, its now a retro hobbyist machine, any pretence that having the company name of 'Amiga Inc' somehow making them legitimate is laughable.

StingRay · 18 February 2009, 19:51

The real question is: who cares about LAmiga Inc. these days? It doesn't make any difference if that company dies or not as it wouldn't change anything.

Ironclaw · 18 February 2009, 19:56

Quote:

Originally Posted by DoogUK

god knows where Amiga will end up if it becomes so.

Meh, and I've never even been to that site :P.... so this happening won't even make a dent in my amiga future :P

Retro-Nerd · 18 February 2009, 19:59

OK, when they close their doors? I buy a round of Kickstarts for all EAB's then.

TCD · 18 February 2009, 20:06

Amiga Inc is dead, long live the Amiga

Ah that would be too good to be true...

Amiga1992 · 18 February 2009, 20:12

Fuck' em and bury them deep enough so they don't surface ever enough.
They been long bankrupt anyway.
When hey finally announce i, I'll celebrate.

One can only dream, but I hope someday the stuff gets public domain for pleasure of hackists and hobbyists.

paranoid · 18 February 2009, 21:23

If they did fold, the rights and assets would just pass along to someone. I'm not sure of the details of what owns what part of Commodore and the Amiga, but if Amiga Inc. files bankruptcy the rights and other assets, intellectual and otherwise, would be auctioned to scrape any remaining value to pay creditors.

Best case scenario is a philanthropist that scoops it up on the cheap and releases it for fans. This would nullify what Cloanto does, for good or bad, if the kickstarts are all into the public domain. Worst case scenario, some bank buys it for a song, or just gets it by default because they lent Amiga Inc. some money and let it die, Cloanto's deal with it.

I'm not sure how much of Amiga Inc's assets would be of much value, though, other than having kickstarts freely distributable and that seems to not really stop anyone..

Eliotg · 18 February 2009, 21:29

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pyromania

Amiga Inc. will die in the current bad economy? Opinions?

They recently lost their main financier due to death. Sorry to hear about that, it's never good when anyone dies. Our guess is that AI will die in the current bad climate that is the world economy. They have no compelling new products and have alienated the Amiga community for years. AA2 appears dead and the Win Mobile market it requires to survive is struggling against Nokia, iPhone, Blackberry & Google Andriod.

As far as I am concerned,the amiga died in 1994 when commodore goes bankrupt
the corrupt ppl on amiga.inc site...sincerely I don't know what they are doing there

Predabot · 18 February 2009, 22:16

Hmm... how much is the Commodore Amiga hacked up to different pieces nowadays? Amiga Inc owns the brand-name and logo? Hyperion owns the OS?

But isn't there more to this stuff? Like... who owns all of those copyrighted special chip and bioses and such? Does Amiga Inc really own that stuff?

TCD · 18 February 2009, 22:29

Seems like Predabot. I would say they own all the things that Commodore (and the original Amiga Inc of course) developed back then now.

turrican3 · 18 February 2009, 22:56

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pyromania

Amiga Inc. will die in the current bad economy? Opinions?

They recently lost their main financier due to death. Sorry to hear about that, it's never good when anyone dies. Our guess is that AI will die in the current bad climate that is the world economy. They have no compelling new products and have alienated the Amiga community for years. AA2 appears dead and the Win Mobile market it requires to survive is struggling against Nokia, iPhone, Blackberry & Google Andriod.

Perhaps you will finally own the amiga, and will put it to the good path .

Merlin · 18 February 2009, 23:08

'Amiga Ink', is that what I can use in my fountain pen? Maybe I should develop some 'Amiga Ink', just to pi$$ them off.....

wilshy · 18 February 2009, 23:21

Amiga Inc are laughable. Let's hope they fold.

Snowman Maker (bet Apple are shaking in their iPhone boots) - http://amiga.com/shop/?prod_id=236&cat_id=46

I need say no more.

IFW · 18 February 2009, 23:23

Realistically, the current economic issues have nothing to do whether AInc will fold or not.
They wouldn't have appeared in the first place without the dotcom bubble and any fool being able to attract VC with a website at the time...

Amiga1992 · 18 February 2009, 23:45

Quote:

Originally Posted by Predabot

Like... who owns all of those copyrighted special chip and bioses and such? Does Amiga Inc really own that stuff?

As far as I remember, all that stuff was bought and kept by Gateway.... who has that now? Gateway has probably been absorbed by another company by now.,.

The current shit that goes by the name of Amiga Inc. now only nought the name (not Commodore name) and the OS, on the deal Gateway kept the Commodore hardware stuff.

TheCorfiot · 19 February 2009, 00:03

Fu*k Em

TC

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18 February 2009, 19:15	#2
DoogUK Doogster Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Dorset Posts: 1,069	I can see it happening to be honest, god knows where Amiga will end up if it becomes so. I've never once thought that their mobile phone route was going to be successful for them.

18 February 2009, 19:20	#3
Retro-Nerd Missile Command Champion Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Germany Age: 52 Posts: 12,447	It's time to bury this shitty firm once and for all.... and now back to our still working classic Amigas. Hurray!!!

18 February 2009, 19:32	#4
pubzombie Registered User Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: westmids Posts: 900	silver linings and all that! Perhaps a new company will buy up the name and things will be better? perhaps the/a community could buy the name and do great things with it? can i have lots of kewl things please Pz

18 February 2009, 19:33	#5
Galahad/FLT Going nowhere Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: United Kingdom Age: 50 Posts: 9,003	I didn't even know they were still going. As far as I am concerned, Amiga is dead, its now a retro hobbyist machine, any pretence that having the company name of 'Amiga Inc' somehow making them legitimate is laughable.

18 February 2009, 19:51	#6
StingRay move.l #$c0ff33,throat Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Berlin/Joymoney Posts: 6,863	The real question is: who cares about LAmiga Inc. these days? It doesn't make any difference if that company dies or not as it wouldn't change anything.

18 February 2009, 19:59	#8
Retro-Nerd Missile Command Champion Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Germany Age: 52 Posts: 12,447	OK, when they close their doors? I buy a round of Kickstarts for all EAB's then.

18 February 2009, 20:06	#9
TCD HOL/FTP busy bee Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Germany Age: 46 Posts: 31,612	Amiga Inc is dead, long live the Amiga Ah that would be too good to be true...

18 February 2009, 20:12	#10
Amiga1992 Registered User Join Date: May 2001 Location: ? Posts: 19,645	Fuck' em and bury them deep enough so they don't surface ever enough. They been long bankrupt anyway. When hey finally announce i, I'll celebrate. One can only dream, but I hope someday the stuff gets public domain for pleasure of hackists and hobbyists.

18 February 2009, 21:23	#11
paranoid Phone Zen Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Banned Age: 52 Posts: 234	If they did fold, the rights and assets would just pass along to someone. I'm not sure of the details of what owns what part of Commodore and the Amiga, but if Amiga Inc. files bankruptcy the rights and other assets, intellectual and otherwise, would be auctioned to scrape any remaining value to pay creditors. Best case scenario is a philanthropist that scoops it up on the cheap and releases it for fans. This would nullify what Cloanto does, for good or bad, if the kickstarts are all into the public domain. Worst case scenario, some bank buys it for a song, or just gets it by default because they lent Amiga Inc. some money and let it die, Cloanto's deal with it. I'm not sure how much of Amiga Inc's assets would be of much value, though, other than having kickstarts freely distributable and that seems to not really stop anyone..

18 February 2009, 22:16	#13
Predabot Registered User Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Swedun' Posts: 397	Hmm... how much is the Commodore Amiga hacked up to different pieces nowadays? Amiga Inc owns the brand-name and logo? Hyperion owns the OS? But isn't there more to this stuff? Like... who owns all of those copyrighted special chip and bioses and such? Does Amiga Inc really own that stuff?

18 February 2009, 22:29	#14
TCD HOL/FTP busy bee Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Germany Age: 46 Posts: 31,612	Seems like Predabot. I would say they own all the things that Commodore (and the original Amiga Inc of course) developed back then now.

18 February 2009, 23:08	#16
Merlin AmiBay MegaMod Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Manchester, UK Age: 62 Posts: 1,163	'Amiga Ink', is that what I can use in my fountain pen? Maybe I should develop some 'Amiga Ink', just to pi$$ them off.....

18 February 2009, 23:21	#17
wilshy Registered User Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: SouthEast-ish UK Posts: 372	Amiga Inc are laughable. Let's hope they fold. Snowman Maker (bet Apple are shaking in their iPhone boots) - http://amiga.com/shop/?prod_id=236&cat_id=46 I need say no more.

18 February 2009, 23:23	#18
IFW Moderator Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: ... Age: 52 Posts: 1,838	Realistically, the current economic issues have nothing to do whether AInc will fold or not. They wouldn't have appeared in the first place without the dotcom bubble and any fool being able to attract VC with a website at the time...

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