Copy FDD amiga games to CD to play on CD32? - Page 3

TheCorfiot · 17 April 2008, 11:15

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fingerlickin_B

Preload option in what application? Nero? Can't find it there.

PZ.

This is a WHDload option which can be set or removed by selecting the program's icon then from the WB bar look for information.
This will give you a window displaying relevent parameters applied to that file selected including tool types.
Similar to setting Tool types in HDToolbox.

Graham Humphrey · 17 April 2008, 11:15

WHDLoad... check the games' tooltypes.

@TheCorfiot: Thanks for clearing that one up.

TheCorfiot · 17 April 2008, 11:18

Quote:

Originally Posted by Graham Humphrey

WHDLoad... check the games' tooltypes.

@TheCorfiot: Thanks for clearing that one up.

NO probs, It worked for me but I'm no real WHDload expert...
I was a bit upset because my four slots of ram in the HD8+ were filled & I thought I would have to go and find 2MB SIMMS to expand to 8MB,

Fingerlickin_B · 17 April 2008, 11:19

I'll quote myself:

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fingerlickin_B

If you are talking about something in the WDHload installation...I can't do that...I'm working with disc images here.

PZ.

TheCorfiot · 17 April 2008, 11:22

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fingerlickin_B

I'll quote myself:

Fingers you have to set this option before burning to CD.

To confirm the changes work, you should test it on HD first, Use WinUAE to simulate a bog standard 2MB AGA A1200

Fingerlickin_B · 17 April 2008, 11:35

Ok, I understand what you are saying now...but these are the CD32-200, CD32-350, CD32-444 & CD32-888 compilation images.

Obviously they already work for everyone else...but why don't they work for me?

PZ.

TheCorfiot · 17 April 2008, 11:40

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fingerlickin_B

Ok, I understand what you are saying now...but these are the CD32-200, CD32-350, CD32-444 & CD32-888 compilation images.

Obviously they already work for everyone else...but why don't they work for me?

PZ.

Sorry Fingers I don't have any of those images to be able to look into them for you..

Fingerlickin_B · 17 April 2008, 11:42

Quote:

Originally Posted by TheCorfiot

Sorry Fingers I don't have any of those images to be able to look into them for you..

That's cool, I don't expect you to man

Either both my "new" CD32s are stuffed, I need to try yet more types of CD-R, or NTSC machines don't play these CDs properly...f*cking annoying sh!t these Amigas!

PZ.

TheCorfiot · 17 April 2008, 11:45

@Fingers..

If I had the images I would have been happy to look into it, it's not a case of you not expecting me to, thats why EAB is a successful community, We help each other

Fingerlickin_B · 17 April 2008, 13:26

Nah man, I just mean't that I wouldn't want to push things that far as to pressure you into doing such a thing...especially given the A520 thing we've already got going

I've just finished recalibrating the drive on my "non-stored" unit (I'm keeping one as a spare). There has been a remarkable improvement in loading times, funky noises gone, etc, but still no luck with the games in these compilations that have been screwing up.

It looks like I'll just have to get better media to record them on, so I'll get that massive pack of CDs I was looking at...even if they don't work I can always use extra CDs for car glovebox copies, etc.

On the up-side, I did get to listen to Paid in Full whilst calibrating the drive!

PZ.

Fingerlickin_B · 22 April 2008, 10:54

Nope Taiyo Yuden disks didn't fix the problem.

Alex, I'm using the images you directed me to, so I figure they are good images and I've also tried some others as well that use WHDload...these are the ones that fuck out...any ideas?

PZ.

alexh · 22 April 2008, 11:14

Name a game and compilation disc number and maybe someone can test it to see if it's just you?

cane · 22 April 2008, 13:15

Quote:

Originally Posted by alexh

Name a game and compilation disc number and maybe someone can test it to see if it's just you?

That's just what I wanted to say, but you were faster. Just say game and CD and I'll test it out on my PAL CD32. Maybe that will lead to some wise conclusions.

Fingerlickin_B · 22 April 2008, 14:25

Cheers fellas

Ok, a CD/game that fails non-stop is this one:
Compilation Disc: CD32-350
Game: Mortal Kombat
Symptoms: "Insert disk into DF0" requester flashes on screen, goes no further.

Loads of the games don't work, but this is one that I've had a 100% failure rate with and have tried a million times, so using it as a "benchmark of failure".

Thanks for all your help too...I really do appreciate it and I'm documenting the lot so I can help others in future!

PZ.

alexh · 22 April 2008, 15:25

Mortal Kombat is a 2 disk game and so it will NOT work on CD32 with preload option. It requires 3Mbytes. (CD32 has 2Mbytes)

The result is that it will give strange "stuttering" results when loading from emulated disk.

Dunno why it says "Insert disk into DF0:" perhaps it requires a keypress or something else when not preloading? You need to ask Codetapper, author of this slave.

Fingerlickin_B · 22 April 2008, 15:37

Ok thanks man, I guess that means these compilations are meant for expanded CD32s which make sense.

PZ.

alexh · 22 April 2008, 15:40

I am wondering if they were tested at all and if they were just "shoved on" a disc.

While the preload option is not required for operation it can have strange effects when left out (or if the slave is too big for memory)

Not supposed to be non working without preload though.

Fingerlickin_B · 22 April 2008, 16:01

I have noticed that most "smaller" games on these compilations work (example Great Giana Sisters, etc), so again...makes sense.

Not all of the compilations you linked me to rely on WHDload. The ones that don't use WHDload work great on my expanded A1200 in CD32 emulation, so again, makes even more sense.

My verdict: If you own a standard CD32, don't freak out when compilation discs dont work.........they just dont!

Wow, 150+ CD "coasters" later, I was wasting my time all along, hahahahahaha!

PZ.

Rochabian · 22 April 2008, 16:32

CD32-350 was a prerelease of the CD32-444 i think , that's perhaps why some games doesn't work.
I've tested quite all compilations and they work quite good for me

Fingerlickin_B · 22 April 2008, 16:41

I get the same problems with 444 as well...

22 April 2008, 15:25	#55
alexh Thalion Webshrine Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Oxford Posts: 14,330	Mortal Kombat is a 2 disk game and so it will NOT work on CD32 with preload option. It requires 3Mbytes. (CD32 has 2Mbytes) The result is that it will give strange "stuttering" results when loading from emulated disk. Dunno why it says "Insert disk into DF0:" perhaps it requires a keypress or something else when not preloading? You need to ask Codetapper, author of this slave. Last edited by alexh; 22 April 2008 at 15:32.

22 April 2008, 15:37	#56
Fingerlickin_B Amiga Nut Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Belco, Australia Posts: 2,242	Ok thanks man, I guess that means these compilations are meant for expanded CD32s which make sense. PZ. Last edited by Fingerlickin_B; 22 April 2008 at 15:58.

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17 April 2008, 11:15	#42
Graham Humphrey Moderator Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Norwich, Norfolk, UK Age: 37 Posts: 11,167	WHDLoad... check the games' tooltypes. @TheCorfiot: Thanks for clearing that one up.

17 April 2008, 11:35	#46
Fingerlickin_B Amiga Nut Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Belco, Australia Posts: 2,242	Ok, I understand what you are saying now...but these are the CD32-200, CD32-350, CD32-444 & CD32-888 compilation images. Obviously they already work for everyone else...but why don't they work for me? PZ.

17 April 2008, 11:45	#49
TheCorfiot Amibay Senior Staff Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Cardiff / Wales Posts: 1,302	@Fingers.. If I had the images I would have been happy to look into it, it's not a case of you not expecting me to, thats why EAB is a successful community, We help each other

17 April 2008, 13:26	#50
Fingerlickin_B Amiga Nut Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Belco, Australia Posts: 2,242	Nah man, I just mean't that I wouldn't want to push things that far as to pressure you into doing such a thing...especially given the A520 thing we've already got going I've just finished recalibrating the drive on my "non-stored" unit (I'm keeping one as a spare). There has been a remarkable improvement in loading times, funky noises gone, etc, but still no luck with the games in these compilations that have been screwing up. It looks like I'll just have to get better media to record them on, so I'll get that massive pack of CDs I was looking at...even if they don't work I can always use extra CDs for car glovebox copies, etc. On the up-side, I did get to listen to Paid in Full whilst calibrating the drive! PZ.

22 April 2008, 10:54	#51
Fingerlickin_B Amiga Nut Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Belco, Australia Posts: 2,242	Nope Taiyo Yuden disks didn't fix the problem. Alex, I'm using the images you directed me to, so I figure they are good images and I've also tried some others as well that use WHDload...these are the ones that fuck out...any ideas? PZ.

22 April 2008, 11:14	#52
alexh Thalion Webshrine Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Oxford Posts: 14,330	Name a game and compilation disc number and maybe someone can test it to see if it's just you?

22 April 2008, 14:25	#54
Fingerlickin_B Amiga Nut Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Belco, Australia Posts: 2,242	Cheers fellas Ok, a CD/game that fails non-stop is this one: Compilation Disc: CD32-350 Game: Mortal Kombat Symptoms: "Insert disk into DF0" requester flashes on screen, goes no further. Loads of the games don't work, but this is one that I've had a 100% failure rate with and have tried a million times, so using it as a "benchmark of failure". Thanks for all your help too...I really do appreciate it and I'm documenting the lot so I can help others in future! PZ.

22 April 2008, 15:40	#57
alexh Thalion Webshrine Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Oxford Posts: 14,330	I am wondering if they were tested at all and if they were just "shoved on" a disc. While the preload option is not required for operation it can have strange effects when left out (or if the slave is too big for memory) Not supposed to be non working without preload though.

22 April 2008, 16:01	#58
Fingerlickin_B Amiga Nut Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Belco, Australia Posts: 2,242	I have noticed that most "smaller" games on these compilations work (example Great Giana Sisters, etc), so again...makes sense. Not all of the compilations you linked me to rely on WHDload. The ones that don't use WHDload work great on my expanded A1200 in CD32 emulation, so again, makes even more sense. My verdict: If you own a standard CD32, don't freak out when compilation discs dont work.........they just dont! Wow, 150+ CD "coasters" later, I was wasting my time all along, hahahahahaha! PZ.

22 April 2008, 16:32	#59
Rochabian The Big White Cat Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: France Age: 44 Posts: 828	CD32-350 was a prerelease of the CD32-444 i think , that's perhaps why some games doesn't work. I've tested quite all compilations and they work quite good for me

22 April 2008, 16:41	#60
Fingerlickin_B Amiga Nut Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Belco, Australia Posts: 2,242	I get the same problems with 444 as well...

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