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Old 11 July 2017, 01:42   #1
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HD options for A1000.

Hi,

What are my options for setting up an A1000 with a HDD?

* Really really expensive and rare side-car?
* TF 530 (that has IDE right?)?
* Parallel ZIP drive (I'm told ZIPs can function as slow HDDs)
* Something else?

I'd prefer an option that doesn't stick out the side (can an ACA 500+ be mounted internally?) as I don't really have the desk space, and I'm concerned children will destroy anything not contained within the case.

To get it to boot from HDD I need 2.04 ROMs right? I have 2.x ROMs from an A500 and an A2000 lying around, are they useable? (This is a PAL machine, so it doesn't have that daughterboard thing I'm told the early NTSC ones did).

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Old 11 July 2017, 02:10   #2
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The A1000 doesn't have a Kickstart ROM, so you won't be able to autoboot unless you do some real upgrading (rare Kickstart adaptors or a new motherboard).

The parallel ZIP is out of the question.

Side cars aren't very expensive, no more than any other solution.

The TF530 is as of yet not proven working in an A1000.

The HC508 might work, but is a sidecar. Same goes for the ACA500+.
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Old 11 July 2017, 02:13   #3
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To get it to boot from HDD I need 2.04 ROMs right? I have 2.x ROMs from an A500 and an A2000 lying around, are they useable? (This is a PAL machine, so it doesn't have that daughterboard thing I'm told the early NTSC ones did).



Thanks all.

Hey, Marchie!

You'll need at least Kickstart 2.05 (the A600 version) as 2.04 does not have the scsi.device.

I believe @tachyon has both an A1000 and a TF530, so he may be able to tell you how it fits.
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Old 11 July 2017, 04:59   #4
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kickstart 1.3 will allow booting of a hard drive, i have a 2091 installed on one of my A1000s via a zorro adapter and works great. got tired of waiting to find an internal ide adapter.

i am using a multiple rom adapter to switch between 1.3 and 2.x and everything works fine.

i can also hook up the hard drive setup on my second A1000 and boot kickstart 1.3 and it works just fine also.
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Old 11 July 2017, 05:38   #5
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I use the a aca500 plus. It is not recommended and won't work everytime without reboot but fine for me.
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Old 11 July 2017, 11:25   #6
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kickstart 1.3 will allow booting of a hard drive
.. as long as the HD controller has a ROM chip with its driver on there, like the 2091 has. :-)

If you have a HC508, it uses the scsi.device built in to kickstart 37.300 and newer.
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.. as long as the HD controller has a ROM chip with its driver on there, like the 2091 has. :-)

If you have a HC508, it uses the scsi.device built in to kickstart 37.300 and newer.
Just use something like kickwork to create a boot disk.
Should be able to kick the rom, then load the driver and pass control to the controller..

That's how my A1000 is set up using a tomthul CF-IDE sidecar..

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I have a few A1000s and there seems to be 3 reasonable options:

(1) Vampire 500 v2 -- plugs right in and gives you an SD card.
(2) ACA500+ -- plugs into the side, a little flakey, but does the trick.
(3) Kickstart ROM switcher + IDE68K board -- requires some soldiering but gives your 1000 a real KS (use 2.05+ for IDE) plus an IDE socket for CF/SD card. Add an 8MB fast RAM board and you can do WHDLoad.

There's probably other options, but those are 3 I've identified. I've done #1 and #2, and am waiting on a couple of parts to do #3.
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I looked into #3 and it looked like quite a lot of 'surgery' was involved, more than I was comfortable doing on an A1000. Will be keen to hear what results you get.
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Old 14 July 2017, 17:51   #10
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If you use the Tuxbar81 rom switcher, the surgery is relatively minor.
I have one working with the Kipper2k 8meg ram IDE board.
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Vampire 500 works with A1000 and it mounts internally.
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Old 24 July 2017, 18:29   #13
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I looked into #3 and it looked like quite a lot of 'surgery' was involved, more than I was comfortable doing on an A1000. Will be keen to hear what results you get.
So it works just fine, the problem is that the boards I am using don't fit with the floppy installed. Seems to always be the problem with these things. So I need a CPU offset adapter or to remove the floppy. ugh.
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Old 19 August 2020, 04:31   #14
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Hey people,

Pardon me resurrecting my own ancient thread. I've had some time to attend my 1000 again recently and tried installing the mkl 8meg + IDE expansion in the 68k socket.

The machine will start with the RAM installed, but as soon as I attach the CF adapter the machine won't even boot to the Kickstart screen.

I understand there are issues around getting IDE drivers working with KS 1.3 but I 'm not understanding why I'm not even getting as far as the insert Kickstart screen. It seems like there is some or other reset line being held up/down that's stopping the machine from even doing it's early startup (ie: those grey screens, that little tune thing).

What's being triggered by the connection of a CF adapter? Is there some kind of basic pre-ROM function/logic that's used even before you insert the kickstart disk?
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ACA500 works well with it and no need to fit a kickstart. That way you can easily revert back to original configuration.
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