Transfer an adf to Amiga 500 Kickstart 1.2 problem?

scifi · 03 September 2002, 17:20

PROBLEM!!

Well, is there any way to transfer an adf from PC to Amiga without a null cable and without owning CrossDos or something like that on your Amiga?

I know that you must have a program on your Amiga in order to read PC disks. Isn't it? Can Tequilla solve this problem?

Note: I don't have an Internet connection on my Amiga to download CrossDos via Aminet

03 September 2002, 19:31

Quote:

Originally posted by scifi
PROBLEM!!

Well, is there any way to transfer an adf from PC to Amiga without a null cable and without owning CrossDos or something like that on your Amiga?

I know that you must have a program on your Amiga in order to read PC disks. Isn't it? Can Tequilla solve this problem?

Tequilla needs a program on your Amiga, sorry.

BippyM · 03 September 2002, 20:01

If you have an kick 2.1+ mount PC0: (It can be found on your storage disk on kick 3.0+)

Now format a 720k floppy and copy said adf (Packed as a .lha) onto disk and then put on Amiga!

If adf is too big you'll need to split it and rejoin on the Amiga (use winUAE and an Amiga splitter/joiner to be 100% certain! and same on real miggy)

Amiga1992 · 04 September 2002, 06:05

ADF to disk teleporting has not been yet conceived, sorry

Perhaps Paul has some alien technology capable of this, but you can;t use it, so... you must use crossdoss at the very LEAST.

gary · 04 September 2002, 12:45

Cross dos, cross dos, cross dos.
Always with the cross dos.

DOS2DOS (c)1988 works on Kickstart 1.2 Amigas.

You can use DF0: to read files 720K PC disks.
If you only have one floppy drive you should probably copy
to PC files to RAM, quit dos2dos, then use 'transdisk' to copy the adf to a real Amiga disk.

The real problem is how much memory you have. If you have 1 meg you might be able to get most single-disk ADF's into RAM: but it will be a tight fit.

You'll need files like these:

c/cd
c/copy
c/add44k (free more chip memory)
c/transdisk
l/ramdisk.device (so you can use RAM

c/dos2dos (most important)

Boot up and type:

add44k
copy c:transdisk ram:
cd ram:
dos2dos
df0:
(eject Amiga disk, insert PC disk)
COPY df0:GAME.ADF RAM:GAME.ADF
QUIT (or EXIT)
(eject PC disk, insert Amiga disk)
transdisk RAM:GAME.ADF

For large ADF files you'll have to either archive them or split them up which makes it more difficult on the Amiga side but not impossible. It could be annoying if you did all of that only to find out that the game was crap.

scifi · 04 September 2002, 16:03

Well, we've rouled out every possibility, so we've ended that I need CrossDos or something like that in order to trnasfer an adf to amiga disk.

But how can I retrieve such a program?

Amiga1992 · 04 September 2002, 17:39

yeah that's what I mean, with Crossdos i was also meaning messydos, or whatever

Anyway, if you have a terminal program, and a serial cable, you can use that. that's how I made the first amiga transfers, with JR.Comm and Terminate on the PC.

scifi · 04 September 2002, 18:13

Thanks Akira but the problem is that I don't have on my Miggy none of the prementioned programs!
F
urthermore, i don't have a network connection to download any of them from Aminet.

Can anyone provide them to me on a floppy

or... where can I buy them?

04 September 2002, 19:16

Quote:

Originally posted by scifi
Thanks Akira but the problem is that I don't have on my Miggy none of the prementioned programs!

You only need a serial cable and your workbench disk:

http://homepage.uibk.ac.at/homepage/c725/c72578/amiga/

gary · 05 September 2002, 03:08

Haha. Please read the original post guys:

"... without a null cable and without owning CrossDos or something like that on your Amiga? ..."

Hmmm. Unless you want to do some programming yourself I think you're stuck unless you can get hold of a floppy disk with PC floppy reading software. You could try scouring the newpaper classifieds for Amiga sales and ask the seller if they have such software, but personally I think you'd be better off buying a null-modem cable which is probably called something else these days:

"Null modem cable"?
"Laplink cable"?
"Microsoft Windows'95 compatible plug and play serial transfer link system adapter (TM)" - minimum spec: Pentium 2 or better CPU, 64 meg RAM and at least 300 meg hard drive space available. recommended spec: Pentium 4 1 ghz, 256 meg ram 10 Gig hard drive.

05 September 2002, 20:55

Quote:

Originally posted by gary
Haha. Please read the original post guys:

I READ the original post

03 September 2002, 17:20	#1
scifi Resurrected... Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: Athens/Greece Age: 50 Posts: 290	Transfer an adf to Amiga 500 Kickstart 1.2 problem? PROBLEM!! Well, is there any way to transfer an adf from PC to Amiga without a null cable and without owning CrossDos or something like that on your Amiga? I know that you must have a program on your Amiga in order to read PC disks. Isn't it? Can Tequilla solve this problem? Note: I don't have an Internet connection on my Amiga to download CrossDos via Aminet

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03 September 2002, 20:01	#3
BippyM Global Moderator Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Derby, UK Age: 48 Posts: 9,355	If you have an kick 2.1+ mount PC0: (It can be found on your storage disk on kick 3.0+) Now format a 720k floppy and copy said adf (Packed as a .lha) onto disk and then put on Amiga! If adf is too big you'll need to split it and rejoin on the Amiga (use winUAE and an Amiga splitter/joiner to be 100% certain! and same on real miggy)

04 September 2002, 06:05	#4
Amiga1992 Registered User Join Date: May 2001 Location: ? Posts: 19,645	ADF to disk teleporting has not been yet conceived, sorry Perhaps Paul has some alien technology capable of this, but you can;t use it, so... you must use crossdoss at the very LEAST.

04 September 2002, 12:45	#5
gary Junior Member Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Perth, Western Australia Age: 50 Posts: 283	Cross dos, cross dos, cross dos. Always with the cross dos. DOS2DOS (c)1988 works on Kickstart 1.2 Amigas. You can use DF0: to read files 720K PC disks. If you only have one floppy drive you should probably copy to PC files to RAM, quit dos2dos, then use 'transdisk' to copy the adf to a real Amiga disk. The real problem is how much memory you have. If you have 1 meg you might be able to get most single-disk ADF's into RAM: but it will be a tight fit. You'll need files like these: c/cd c/copy c/add44k (free more chip memory) c/transdisk l/ramdisk.device (so you can use RAM c/dos2dos (most important) Boot up and type: add44k copy c:transdisk ram: cd ram: dos2dos df0: (eject Amiga disk, insert PC disk) COPY df0:GAME.ADF RAM:GAME.ADF QUIT (or EXIT) (eject PC disk, insert Amiga disk) transdisk RAM:GAME.ADF For large ADF files you'll have to either archive them or split them up which makes it more difficult on the Amiga side but not impossible. It could be annoying if you did all of that only to find out that the game was crap.

04 September 2002, 16:03	#6
scifi Resurrected... Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: Athens/Greece Age: 50 Posts: 290	Well, we've rouled out every possibility, so we've ended that I need CrossDos or something like that in order to trnasfer an adf to amiga disk. But how can I retrieve such a program?

04 September 2002, 17:39	#7
Amiga1992 Registered User Join Date: May 2001 Location: ? Posts: 19,645	yeah that's what I mean, with Crossdos i was also meaning messydos, or whatever Anyway, if you have a terminal program, and a serial cable, you can use that. that's how I made the first amiga transfers, with JR.Comm and Terminate on the PC.

04 September 2002, 18:13	#8
scifi Resurrected... Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: Athens/Greece Age: 50 Posts: 290	Thanks Akira but the problem is that I don't have on my Miggy none of the prementioned programs! F urthermore, i don't have a network connection to download any of them from Aminet. Can anyone provide them to me on a floppy or... where can I buy them?

05 September 2002, 03:08	#10
gary Junior Member Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Perth, Western Australia Age: 50 Posts: 283	Haha. Please read the original post guys: "... without a null cable and without owning CrossDos or something like that on your Amiga? ..." Hmmm. Unless you want to do some programming yourself I think you're stuck unless you can get hold of a floppy disk with PC floppy reading software. You could try scouring the newpaper classifieds for Amiga sales and ask the seller if they have such software, but personally I think you'd be better off buying a null-modem cable which is probably called something else these days: "Null modem cable"? "Laplink cable"? "Microsoft Windows'95 compatible plug and play serial transfer link system adapter (TM)" - minimum spec: Pentium 2 or better CPU, 64 meg RAM and at least 300 meg hard drive space available. recommended spec: Pentium 4 1 ghz, 256 meg ram 10 Gig hard drive.

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