SAS/C: Undefined symbols

Yesideez · 12 February 2014, 14:12

I've been playing around with integers without problem but now I want to play with floats I'm now being told I've got undefined symbols and it's asking me to enter a DEFINE value of which I've got no idea. All I know is that no matter what I enter the program fails.

At the end of compiling (after I've given it junk info) it does say:

Code:

Warning 625: Proper math library has not been included

I have tried including proto/mathffp.h in the first include line but still no luck.

(The manual I'm following is the "Amiga Shopper Complete Amiga C" which was given away with a free version of DICE although I'm using SAS/C v6.58 instead so if anyone knows of a much better source of learning material - I'd welcome it with open arms)

marduk_kurios · 12 February 2014, 15:20

*checks bookmarks*

http://www.pcguru.plus.com/tutorial/amiga_c.html
http://www.bombjack.org/commodore/am..._Beginners.zip
http://www.bombjack.org/commodore/am...d_Atari_ST.zip
http://www.bombjack.org/commodore/am...nd_Edition.zip

Yesideez · 12 February 2014, 15:41

Thanks for the links but any chance a quick explanation of what I need to do to be able to use floats please?

EDIT: Thanks for that first HTML reference manual/guide - amazing read

Leffmann · 12 February 2014, 16:49

You need to specify a math model, and possibly a math library depending on what model and what functionality you use. I think the command line option is "MATH=model" for the compiler, and "LIB library" for the linker, but I can't remember what to specify.

It's easier if you use scsetup to set up a project, and then use scoptions to configure it.

EDIT: try MATH=standard and LIB scm.lib, it should use the software-based math library that runs on all machines.

Yesideez · 12 February 2014, 18:14

I just typed "scoptions" and nothing happened. Tried it with a ? on the end and the template makes no sense without a manual.

Yesideez · 12 February 2014, 18:31

While I'm extremely appreciate of the assistance I'm receiving here, SAS/C is by no means simple.

Using the instructions on http://www.pcguru.plus.com/tutorial/screens.html to try and open a screen, I've typed everything in exactly and this is what I get:

marduk_kurios · 12 February 2014, 19:40

it's "scopts"

thomas · 12 February 2014, 19:41

This is a horrible piece of a tutorial. Full of mistakes. Most information given there is just wrong.

CloseScreen needs a pointer to the screen as returned by OpenScreen and not the NewScreen pointer.

OpenScreenTagList takes a pointer to a taglist. OpenScreenTags is the function which uses inline tags.

Yesideez · 12 February 2014, 19:59

See, that's what I don't understand. I can see some of the errors in that tutorial and I much PREFER TO USE ASSEMBLER BUT IT TAKES SO MUCH DAMN TIME TO MAKE anything (excuse damn caps key bloody thing) and some routines need to be coded from scratch.

I'm half tempted to finish expanding my 1200 and use it for a games machine.

Anyone used GCC and think much of it? That's been suggested to me but if it's as user unfriendly as SAS/C I don't think I'll bother.

(Hate this mix of diazepam/morphine and naproxen)

Leffmann · 13 February 2014, 00:05

You don't have to do everything via command line. Run scsetup to create a project template, open your project drawer and click on scoptions, click on Code Options, and click on NoMath until it says Math=STANDARD, click save, and you're done.

I linked a complete SAS/C 6.58 install in another thread of yours, and it contains all the SAS/C help-files in Amigaguide format. I think I also included the SAS/C 6.50 manual in it.

Yesideez · 13 February 2014, 10:23

I've run scsetup and nothing happens.

bubbob42 · 13 February 2014, 10:56

Did you clone the SAS-C example project as a starting point? You will get all the necessary icons and tools, if you do.

Reading the manual is also recommended.

Yesideez · 13 February 2014, 11:17

To be honest - no idea. I'm a typical bloke and I dived straight in and I've just started reading the manual now.

I tried SnoopDOS to see if scsetup needs something it can't find and nothing flagged up but I did try this in AmigaDOS...

Code:

makedir tester
scsetup tester

I now have several info files in that folder: Build.info, Debug,info, Find.info, Debug, Edit.info and SCoptions.info although I'm running everything through AmigaDOS - seeing all those info file should I be running this all through Workbench?

bubbob42 · 13 February 2014, 13:23

Quote:

Originally Posted by Yesideez

I now have several info files in that folder: Build.info, Debug,info, Find.info, Debug, Edit.info and SCoptions.info although I'm running everything through AmigaDOS - seeing all those info file should I be running this all through Workbench?

Yes, try it. And continue reading that manual.

Yesideez · 13 February 2014, 16:36

Aye, I've been reading the manual for a little while now and it's amazing what I've learnt so far.

Typical bloke thing, eh? Manuals as the last resort

While I'm on these pain killers due to severe muscle spasm taking me out of work for a week this is the ideal thing to relieve boredom. I tried watching a film and the diazepam knocked me out and I slept all day. This is keeping my mind active

12 February 2014, 14:12	#1
Yesideez (2b)\|\|!(2b) Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Cranbrook, Devon, UK Age: 50 Posts: 241	SAS/C: Undefined symbols I've been playing around with integers without problem but now I want to play with floats I'm now being told I've got undefined symbols and it's asking me to enter a DEFINE value of which I've got no idea. All I know is that no matter what I enter the program fails. At the end of compiling (after I've given it junk info) it does say: Code: Warning 625: Proper math library has not been included I have tried including proto/mathffp.h in the first include line but still no luck. (The manual I'm following is the "Amiga Shopper Complete Amiga C" which was given away with a free version of DICE although I'm using SAS/C v6.58 instead so if anyone knows of a much better source of learning material - I'd welcome it with open arms) Last edited by Yesideez; 12 February 2014 at 14:44.

12 February 2014, 15:41	#3
Yesideez (2b)\|\|!(2b) Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Cranbrook, Devon, UK Age: 50 Posts: 241	Thanks for the links but any chance a quick explanation of what I need to do to be able to use floats please? EDIT: Thanks for that first HTML reference manual/guide - amazing read Last edited by Yesideez; 12 February 2014 at 15:56.

13 February 2014, 11:17	#13
Yesideez (2b)\|\|!(2b) Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Cranbrook, Devon, UK Age: 50 Posts: 241	To be honest - no idea. I'm a typical bloke and I dived straight in and I've just started reading the manual now. I tried SnoopDOS to see if scsetup needs something it can't find and nothing flagged up but I did try this in AmigaDOS... Code: makedir tester scsetup tester I now have several info files in that folder: Build.info, Debug,info, Find.info, Debug, Edit.info and SCoptions.info although I'm running everything through AmigaDOS - seeing all those info file should I be running this all through Workbench?

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12 February 2014, 15:20	#2
marduk_kurios move $dff006,$dff180 Join Date: Feb 2014 Location: USA Posts: 66	checks bookmarks http://www.pcguru.plus.com/tutorial/amiga_c.html http://www.bombjack.org/commodore/am..._Beginners.zip http://www.bombjack.org/commodore/am...d_Atari_ST.zip http://www.bombjack.org/commodore/am...nd_Edition.zip

12 February 2014, 16:49	#4
Leffmann Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Sweden Posts: 2,269	You need to specify a math model, and possibly a math library depending on what model and what functionality you use. I think the command line option is "MATH=model" for the compiler, and "LIB library" for the linker, but I can't remember what to specify. It's easier if you use scsetup to set up a project, and then use scoptions to configure it. EDIT: try MATH=standard and LIB scm.lib, it should use the software-based math library that runs on all machines.

12 February 2014, 18:14	#5
Yesideez (2b)\|\|!(2b) Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Cranbrook, Devon, UK Age: 50 Posts: 241	I just typed "scoptions" and nothing happened. Tried it with a ? on the end and the template makes no sense without a manual.

12 February 2014, 18:31	#6
Yesideez (2b)\|\|!(2b) Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Cranbrook, Devon, UK Age: 50 Posts: 241	While I'm extremely appreciate of the assistance I'm receiving here, SAS/C is by no means simple. Using the instructions on http://www.pcguru.plus.com/tutorial/screens.html to try and open a screen, I've typed everything in exactly and this is what I get:

12 February 2014, 19:40	#7
marduk_kurios move $dff006,$dff180 Join Date: Feb 2014 Location: USA Posts: 66	it's "scopts"

12 February 2014, 19:41	#8
thomas Registered User Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Germany Posts: 6,985	This is a horrible piece of a tutorial. Full of mistakes. Most information given there is just wrong. CloseScreen needs a pointer to the screen as returned by OpenScreen and not the NewScreen pointer. OpenScreenTagList takes a pointer to a taglist. OpenScreenTags is the function which uses inline tags.

12 February 2014, 19:59	#9
Yesideez (2b)\|\|!(2b) Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Cranbrook, Devon, UK Age: 50 Posts: 241	See, that's what I don't understand. I can see some of the errors in that tutorial and I much PREFER TO USE ASSEMBLER BUT IT TAKES SO MUCH DAMN TIME TO MAKE anything (excuse damn caps key bloody thing) and some routines need to be coded from scratch. I'm half tempted to finish expanding my 1200 and use it for a games machine. Anyone used GCC and think much of it? That's been suggested to me but if it's as user unfriendly as SAS/C I don't think I'll bother. (Hate this mix of diazepam/morphine and naproxen)

13 February 2014, 00:05	#10
Leffmann Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Sweden Posts: 2,269	You don't have to do everything via command line. Run scsetup to create a project template, open your project drawer and click on scoptions, click on Code Options, and click on NoMath until it says Math=STANDARD, click save, and you're done. I linked a complete SAS/C 6.58 install in another thread of yours, and it contains all the SAS/C help-files in Amigaguide format. I think I also included the SAS/C 6.50 manual in it.

13 February 2014, 10:23	#11
Yesideez (2b)\|\|!(2b) Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Cranbrook, Devon, UK Age: 50 Posts: 241	I've run scsetup and nothing happens.

13 February 2014, 10:56	#12
bubbob42 Registered User Join Date: Oct 2012 Location: Germany Posts: 585	Did you clone the SAS-C example project as a starting point? You will get all the necessary icons and tools, if you do. Reading the manual is also recommended.

13 February 2014, 16:36	#15
Yesideez (2b)\|\|!(2b) Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Cranbrook, Devon, UK Age: 50 Posts: 241	Aye, I've been reading the manual for a little while now and it's amazing what I've learnt so far. Typical bloke thing, eh? Manuals as the last resort While I'm on these pain killers due to severe muscle spasm taking me out of work for a week this is the ideal thing to relieve boredom. I tried watching a film and the diazepam knocked me out and I slept all day. This is keeping my mind active

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