First Samurai (100% working)

andreas · 11 February 2003, 03:57

Hi,

could anyone of you supply a non-tosec (!) version of First Samurai that works until the end?
Another EAB guy PM'ed me about this issue, and we found out that the CRYSTAL crack crashes after finishing level 4.
All levels except level 5 are working with this version.

Now I test-played the QUARTEX crack (in the zone), and same thing - but it happens MUCH later. After finishing level 8, the QUARTEX version shows level 9 for 1/10 second, then the screen goes black and nothing seems to happen anymore...!

So, does anyone have a 100% version of this addictive game?

haynor666 · 11 February 2003, 16:44

I've never played this versions because they never works on A1200 but there is oryginal version (WHDLoad). It may help You.

andreas · 11 February 2003, 17:08

Yeah, it may help but we need a 100% working ADF also in the collection, for the ones that are IN the collection are (partly) worthless.

Big-Byte · 11 February 2003, 21:10

Ive got a version in my Unrecognised directory.
Its cracked by Crystal but tosec doesnt recognise it yet.

I will upload it to the Zone.

I havent got time to play it so let me know if its a good version.

andreas · 11 February 2003, 21:20

Thanks so much!

I'll report you back how it plays.

[EDIT] Argh! Disk 2 is badly broken, and it's only disk 2 that matters here!

After you're prompted for disk 2, WinUAE loads up to track #19 and then stops and/or crashes. You don't even get to level 1. That's a knackered version. I'd suggest to delete it and to NOT TOSECize it because it's a pile of data junk.

But do keep Disk 1 as an untrained variant of the CRYSTAL/GOONIES version! Your disk 1 in the zone is the original CRYSTAL release, without the trainer.

So, could someone else help out?

Twistin'Ghost · 11 February 2003, 21:53

I have a couple of disks in my Unrecognized dir...I was gonna look at them last night and forgot. Should be a short day at work today, so I have it on my TODO list.

Was looking at usenet earlier and it seems that the non-TOSEC flood occuring is nothing more than yet more [a] versions of already existing games in the dats (sigh), so there will no doubt be a bunch of First Samurai alts coming up. Matter of fact, that was what the new TOSEC additions looked like, as well.

Has anyone tested these disks on a real Amiga? Or has anyone checked the actual disks themselves (iow, if DOS, tried copying the data to ram) or any other method to test the integrity of the actual disk/data?

I have the pair of DMS files from when the game was first released, so I'll convert those as well and see what happens.

andreas · 11 February 2003, 21:59

Hey thanks, sounds exciting.

Quote:

Has anyone tested these disks on a real Amiga? Or has anyone checked the actual disks themselves (iow, if DOS, tried copying the data to ram) or any other method to test the integrity of the actual disk/data?

I've been expecting this question, and there's a right to ask it

Well, I think there are cases when this is NOT needed. You can see that all levels are structured on the same pattern, so I really don't see a necessity for a real-thing test if you can play the game till the end by mixing several cracks. (But you will agree for sure that this doesn't deserve the term "solution"

)

Big-Byte · 11 February 2003, 22:38

Ive deleted disk 2.

Sorry couldnt be more help.

fiath · 12 February 2003, 09:31

Quote:

Originally posted by andreas
So, could someone else help out?

Sure, if you have the original, you know what to do.

We actually don't have a dump of this game which surprised me somewhat...

andreas · 12 February 2003, 10:01

Me too!

Twistin'Ghost · 12 February 2003, 15:22

I dumped my Crystal crack DMS files and Disk 1 was not TOSEC recognized, and disk 2 was already in TOSEC. Sorry that was no help.

andreas · 12 February 2003, 23:37

No prob. At least I know now that the CRYSTAL stuff did come *as-is* from the BBS world, so it's CRYSTAL's fault that level #5 is screwed!
Just look again if you have any other cracks...thanks in advance.

Twistin'Ghost · 13 February 2003, 01:06

I'll check my unrecognized folder in a bit.

7-Zark-7 · 13 February 2003, 14:05

@andreas. Completely off-topic, but you do remember that the game ending sucked anyway!
I recall "The One" doing an article on games with good & bad endings & they mentioned F.S. as an example of the latter!

andreas · 13 February 2003, 17:05

Well yes, it's not spectacular, in case that's what you were pointing to.

But Rainbow Islands' ending isn't that spectacular either ... both mentioned remind me of a cheap demo

Dastardly · 13 June 2003, 01:29

Was this problem ever solved? I want to add FS to my collection now and I remembered reading this thread about all the TOSEC versions being bad.
Has anyone got a 100% working version they can upload for me please?

TIA

haynor666 · 13 June 2003, 22:05

Probably noone, but someone can crack original from WHDLoad images.

andreas · 14 June 2003, 00:56

The tip I got was to just mix two different cracks and then it works.

Dastardly · 14 June 2003, 10:35

C'mon all you coding experts! crack the WHDload of First Samurai for all us (or is it just me?) non WHD users.

oh go on, pleeese?

derSammler · 14 June 2003, 12:27

Quote:

Originally posted by andreas
The tip I got was to just mix two different cracks and then it works.

What about the version that I've sent you ? It works 100%...

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11 February 2003, 03:57	#1
andreas Zone Friend Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: Germany Age: 50 Posts: 5,857	First Samurai (100% working) Hi, could anyone of you supply a non-tosec (!) version of First Samurai that works until the end? Another EAB guy PM'ed me about this issue, and we found out that the CRYSTAL crack crashes after finishing level 4. All levels except level 5 are working with this version. Now I test-played the QUARTEX crack (in the zone), and same thing - but it happens MUCH later. After finishing level 8, the QUARTEX version shows level 9 for 1/10 second, then the screen goes black and nothing seems to happen anymore...! So, does anyone have a 100% version of this addictive game? Last edited by andreas; 11 February 2003 at 17:09.

11 February 2003, 16:44	#2
haynor666 retro maniac Join Date: May 2002 Location: Tarnobrzeg/Poland Age: 45 Posts: 1,769	I've never played this versions because they never works on A1200 but there is oryginal version (WHDLoad). It may help You.

11 February 2003, 17:08	#3
andreas Zone Friend Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: Germany Age: 50 Posts: 5,857	Yeah, it may help but we need a 100% working ADF also in the collection, for the ones that are IN the collection are (partly) worthless.

11 February 2003, 21:10	#4
Big-Byte Long time member Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: UK Posts: 754	Ive got a version in my Unrecognised directory. Its cracked by Crystal but tosec doesnt recognise it yet. I will upload it to the Zone. I havent got time to play it so let me know if its a good version.

11 February 2003, 21:20	#5
andreas Zone Friend Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: Germany Age: 50 Posts: 5,857	Thanks so much! I'll report you back how it plays. [EDIT] Argh! Disk 2 is badly broken, and it's only disk 2 that matters here! After you're prompted for disk 2, WinUAE loads up to track #19 and then stops and/or crashes. You don't even get to level 1. That's a knackered version. I'd suggest to delete it and to NOT TOSECize it because it's a pile of data junk. But do keep Disk 1 as an untrained variant of the CRYSTAL/GOONIES version! Your disk 1 in the zone is the original CRYSTAL release, without the trainer. So, could someone else help out? Last edited by andreas; 11 February 2003 at 21:56.

11 February 2003, 21:53	#6
Twistin'Ghost Give up the ghost Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: U$A Age: 33 Posts: 4,662	I have a couple of disks in my Unrecognized dir...I was gonna look at them last night and forgot. Should be a short day at work today, so I have it on my TODO list. Was looking at usenet earlier and it seems that the non-TOSEC flood occuring is nothing more than yet more [a] versions of already existing games in the dats (sigh), so there will no doubt be a bunch of First Samurai alts coming up. Matter of fact, that was what the new TOSEC additions looked like, as well. Has anyone tested these disks on a real Amiga? Or has anyone checked the actual disks themselves (iow, if DOS, tried copying the data to ram) or any other method to test the integrity of the actual disk/data? I have the pair of DMS files from when the game was first released, so I'll convert those as well and see what happens.

11 February 2003, 22:38	#8
Big-Byte Long time member Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: UK Posts: 754	Ive deleted disk 2. Sorry couldnt be more help.

12 February 2003, 10:01	#10
andreas Zone Friend Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: Germany Age: 50 Posts: 5,857	Me too!

12 February 2003, 15:22	#11
Twistin'Ghost Give up the ghost Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: U$A Age: 33 Posts: 4,662	I dumped my Crystal crack DMS files and Disk 1 was not TOSEC recognized, and disk 2 was already in TOSEC. Sorry that was no help.

12 February 2003, 23:37	#12
andreas Zone Friend Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: Germany Age: 50 Posts: 5,857	No prob. At least I know now that the CRYSTAL stuff did come as-is from the BBS world, so it's CRYSTAL's fault that level #5 is screwed! Just look again if you have any other cracks...thanks in advance.

13 February 2003, 01:06	#13
Twistin'Ghost Give up the ghost Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: U$A Age: 33 Posts: 4,662	I'll check my unrecognized folder in a bit.

13 February 2003, 14:05	#14
7-Zark-7 Zone Friend Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Brisbane/Australia Posts: 1,270	@andreas. Completely off-topic, but you do remember that the game ending sucked anyway! I recall "The One" doing an article on games with good & bad endings & they mentioned F.S. as an example of the latter!

13 February 2003, 17:05	#15
andreas Zone Friend Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: Germany Age: 50 Posts: 5,857	Well yes, it's not spectacular, in case that's what you were pointing to. But Rainbow Islands' ending isn't that spectacular either ... both mentioned remind me of a cheap demo

13 June 2003, 01:29	#16
Dastardly Into the Wonderful Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: England Age: 49 Posts: 2,335	Was this problem ever solved? I want to add FS to my collection now and I remembered reading this thread about all the TOSEC versions being bad. Has anyone got a 100% working version they can upload for me please? TIA

13 June 2003, 22:05	#17
haynor666 retro maniac Join Date: May 2002 Location: Tarnobrzeg/Poland Age: 45 Posts: 1,769	Probably noone, but someone can crack original from WHDLoad images.

14 June 2003, 00:56	#18
andreas Zone Friend Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: Germany Age: 50 Posts: 5,857	The tip I got was to just mix two different cracks and then it works.

14 June 2003, 10:35	#19
Dastardly Into the Wonderful Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: England Age: 49 Posts: 2,335	C'mon all you coding experts! crack the WHDload of First Samurai for all us (or is it just me?) non WHD users. oh go on, pleeese?

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