Is this as good as Indivision?

jimmer78 · 11 February 2012, 00:46

SO Indivision is pretty much sold out for now, but do you think this is a good replacement? I have a few doubts and it looks ugly...but maybe it does the job?? :

http://www.scandoubler.info/

Cheers.

amiman99 · 11 February 2012, 03:08

NO.
You can get that on EBAY for $35, I have one, it's OK, but not the best.
Does not work in PAL very well or at all.
They did a good effort to make it work with Amiga, with proper cables and nice box, I will give them that.

zipper · 11 February 2012, 08:33

Nothing comes even near - except PicassoIV sd/flifi but it's not a replacement.

jimmer78 · 11 February 2012, 15:03

hmmmm anyone got an indivision they wanna sell?

r.cade · 11 February 2012, 16:08

Quote:

Originally Posted by amiman99

NO.
You can get that on EBAY for $35, I have one, it's OK, but not the best.
Does not work in PAL very well or at all.
They did a good effort to make it work with Amiga, with proper cables and nice box, I will give them that.

Wow, where can you find for $35!? They seem to be the equivalent of $145 USD...

gulliver · 11 February 2012, 17:34

Here you have one for $31.95 (including worldwide shipping).

There are several models at about the same pricing scheme

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Arcade-Game-...item4cf9a60c16

This guy, just added a nice box and the cabling.

amiman99 · 11 February 2012, 22:54

Quote:

Originally Posted by gulliver

Here you have one for $31.95 (including worldwide shipping).

There are several models at about the same pricing scheme

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Arcade-Game-...item4cf9a60c16

This guy, just added a nice box and the cabling.

Yes, that's the one. I made a box for it too. See attachment.
That DB9 connector is wired to the same pin out ad 1084 monitor port, so I can use my monitor cable from 1084.

The flicker-fixer on this board is excellent, very stable and usable in NTSC interlace mode, but it has some weird ghosting around the mouse pointer.

wallmaker84 · 17 February 2012, 11:58

Hi to all Amiga fans,
I would ask your opinion about this scandoubler flikerfixer:
http://www.scandoubler.info/

The inner board seems not to be different from this item sold on ebay:
http://www.ebay.it/itm/260947539632?...ht_7783wt_1397

That is a "
CGA/EGA/YUV/RGB TO VGA converter (1 VGA output) arcade game board PCB"....

In my opinion is the same but less price...

Daniele

wallmaker84 · 17 February 2012, 12:06

I apologize for starting a new thread when another one is still discussing the same thing...
Also refer to

http://eab.abime.net/showthread.php?...andoubler.info

Daniele

wallmaker84 · 17 February 2012, 16:15

I'm thinking about buying one from ebay...
Does anybody have tried it with PAL amigas??
Thanks in advance..
Wallmaker

prowler · 17 February 2012, 23:19

Quote:

Originally Posted by wallmaker84

I apologize for starting a new thread when another one is still discussing the same thing...

No problem.

Anemos · 17 February 2012, 23:29

Quote:

Originally Posted by wallmaker84

I'm thinking about buying one from ebay...
Does anybody have tried it with PAL amigas??
Thanks in advance..
Wallmaker

search on web "GBS-8220"
Better buy the (v4.0) version its the new model,is more compatible to Amiga/Atari.

amiman99 · 18 February 2012, 01:45

I have rev 4, but have problems with PAL, I don't know why. The PAL picture is frozen.
I wonder if it is because I have NTSC Amiga trying to do PAL?
I know that in Composite video, the color carrier in on different frequency, and I don't know if that affects the RGB too.

Edit: here is a video showing it working in PAL, so I know it works but not for me.
[ Show youtube player ]
2nd Edit: After watching the video showing A3000 in PAL mode, it made me determined to make it work.
First I set the setting written in the comment section, that did not work.
Then I played with the POSITION and SIZE in Geometry settings and finally got it to work.
Looks like optimal setting for NTSC is NOT optimal for PAL resolution. The screens are shifted from each other. So I found settings somewhere in the middle and it WORKS!
My settings that work in NTSC and PAL:
H POS 56
V POS 16
H Size 48
V Size 55

I'm going to check some PAL games to confirm it works.

roy bates · 18 February 2012, 09:25

Quote:

Originally Posted by amiman99

NO.
You can get that on EBAY for $35, I have one, it's OK, but not the best.
Does not work in PAL very well or at all.
They did a good effort to make it work with Amiga, with proper cables and nice box, I will give them that.

it does work in PAL,its not the best but it works.

these pre-built units are taking power from the RGB port,not a good idea.

Quote:

Originally Posted by wallmaker84

I'm thinking about buying one from ebay...
Does anybody have tried it with PAL amigas??
Thanks in advance..
Wallmaker

i use mine for PAL and NTSC.just remember to take power from somewhere other than the amiga's RGB port.(as these using run on 2 amps)

13 March 2012, 05:05

Quote:

Originally Posted by Anemos

search on web "GBS-8220"
Better buy the (v4.0) version its the new model,is more compatible to Amiga/Atari.

This one is not to bad can be used in waiting for the indivision aga mkII.

You can clean up the sync signal a bit using a schmitt trigger circuit to clean up the Hsync signal that would cause less ghosted shadows.

attila06 · 17 April 2012, 12:19

Hello,

I have already an indivision MK1, and my question is maybe stupid but i would like to know if GBS8220 is able to use high gfx mode and superplus mode.

Thanks.

roy bates · 17 April 2012, 13:28

it can use all pal and ntsc modes.

attila06 · 17 April 2012, 17:19

Wahoo ! even high gfx and superplus mode cool.
Thanks Roy for answer, any picture, or video ?

roy bates · 17 April 2012, 18:24

no video sorry,but it does work in those modes.

11 February 2012, 00:46	#1
jimmer78 Registered User Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: London Posts: 133	Is this as good as Indivision? SO Indivision is pretty much sold out for now, but do you think this is a good replacement? I have a few doubts and it looks ugly...but maybe it does the job?? : http://www.scandoubler.info/ Cheers.

17 February 2012, 11:58	#8
wallmaker84 Registered User Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: Italy, Padova Age: 39 Posts: 21	Scandoubler questions Hi to all Amiga fans, I would ask your opinion about this scandoubler flikerfixer: http://www.scandoubler.info/ The inner board seems not to be different from this item sold on ebay: http://www.ebay.it/itm/260947539632?...ht_7783wt_1397 That is a " CGA/EGA/YUV/RGB TO VGA converter (1 VGA output) arcade game board PCB".... In my opinion is the same but less price... Daniele

18 February 2012, 01:45	#13
amiman99 Registered User Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: San Antonio, TX USA Age: 50 Posts: 1,184	I have rev 4, but have problems with PAL, I don't know why. The PAL picture is frozen. I wonder if it is because I have NTSC Amiga trying to do PAL? I know that in Composite video, the color carrier in on different frequency, and I don't know if that affects the RGB too. Edit: here is a video showing it working in PAL, so I know it works but not for me. [ Show youtube player ] 2nd Edit: After watching the video showing A3000 in PAL mode, it made me determined to make it work. First I set the setting written in the comment section, that did not work. Then I played with the POSITION and SIZE in Geometry settings and finally got it to work. Looks like optimal setting for NTSC is NOT optimal for PAL resolution. The screens are shifted from each other. So I found settings somewhere in the middle and it WORKS! My settings that work in NTSC and PAL: H POS 56 V POS 16 H Size 48 V Size 55 I'm going to check some PAL games to confirm it works. Last edited by amiman99; 18 February 2012 at 03:27.

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11 February 2012, 03:08	#2
amiman99 Registered User Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: San Antonio, TX USA Age: 50 Posts: 1,184	NO. You can get that on EBAY for $35, I have one, it's OK, but not the best. Does not work in PAL very well or at all. They did a good effort to make it work with Amiga, with proper cables and nice box, I will give them that.

11 February 2012, 08:33	#3
zipper Registered User Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: finland Posts: 1,838	Nothing comes even near - except PicassoIV sd/flifi but it's not a replacement.

11 February 2012, 15:03	#4
jimmer78 Registered User Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: London Posts: 133	hmmmm anyone got an indivision they wanna sell?

11 February 2012, 17:34	#6
gulliver BoingBagged Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: The South of nowhere Age: 46 Posts: 2,358	Here you have one for $31.95 (including worldwide shipping). There are several models at about the same pricing scheme http://www.ebay.com/itm/Arcade-Game-...item4cf9a60c16 This guy, just added a nice box and the cabling.

17 February 2012, 12:06	#9
wallmaker84 Registered User Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: Italy, Padova Age: 39 Posts: 21	I apologize for starting a new thread when another one is still discussing the same thing... Also refer to http://eab.abime.net/showthread.php?...andoubler.info Daniele

17 February 2012, 16:15	#10
wallmaker84 Registered User Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: Italy, Padova Age: 39 Posts: 21	I'm thinking about buying one from ebay... Does anybody have tried it with PAL amigas?? Thanks in advance.. Wallmaker

17 April 2012, 12:19	#16
attila06 Zone Friend Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Nice / France Posts: 206	Hello, I have already an indivision MK1, and my question is maybe stupid but i would like to know if GBS8220 is able to use high gfx mode and superplus mode. Thanks.

17 April 2012, 13:28	#17
roy bates Registered User Join Date: Apr 2011 Location: birmingham Age: 55 Posts: 2,827	it can use all pal and ntsc modes.

17 April 2012, 17:19	#18
attila06 Zone Friend Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Nice / France Posts: 206	Wahoo ! even high gfx and superplus mode cool. Thanks Roy for answer, any picture, or video ?

17 April 2012, 18:24	#19
roy bates Registered User Join Date: Apr 2011 Location: birmingham Age: 55 Posts: 2,827	no video sorry,but it does work in those modes.

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