Latest TOSEC archive

Supamax · 28 February 2009, 23:50

Hi,

where could I find/download the updated latest TOSEC archive?
Is there a fast website (not t*rrent/e*ule links) from which I could download the whole archive or single titles?

I have some dumped floppies which I would like to compare with TOSEC's to see if they have been dumped yet.

Hopefully, this thread can be helpful to other users too

.

prowler · 28 February 2009, 23:53

Good question, Supamax!

I've often wondered about the answer to this!

prowler

DamienD · 01 March 2009, 00:07

Quote:

Originally Posted by Supamax

Hi,

where could I find/download the updated latest TOSEC archive?

Is there a fast website (not t*rrent/e*ule links) from which I could download the whole archive or single titles?

Sorry to say, I searched for quite some time but couldn't find any http or ftp with the latest public sets

In the end I finally bit the bullet and joined a private torrent site...

If you need any specific files just ask

Quote:

Originally Posted by Supamax

I have some dumped floppies which I would like to compare with TOSEC's to see if they have been dumped yet.

If all you want to do is compare your dumps then use ClrMAMEPro and the DATs from this pack.

Supamax · 01 March 2009, 00:13

I found something, but I don't know if it's the latest archive.
Also, I don't know if I can post here the direct links

.

[Deleted links]

DamienD · 01 March 2009, 00:19

Well saying what I've said above, I do know one site. Thing is it cannot be posted on EAB as of course it contains all the Kickstart ROMS and Workbench disks...

Also, even if it was allowed to be pasted on EAB could you really be bothered clicking on / downloading over 30,000 files individually? A private torrent site is the way to go if you're serious

Quote:

Originally Posted by Supamax

Let's try:

link
<snip>

Not sure what they contain but you will probably still need to run everything through ClrMAMEPro afterwards to be sure everything is there...

Just for reference, the complete "disk" based Amiga TOSEC files are roughly 28GB in size.

Supamax · 01 March 2009, 00:25

Quote:

Originally Posted by DamienD

Well saying what I've said above, I do know one site. Thing is it cannot be posted on EAB as of course it contains all the Kickstart ROMS and Workbench disks...

Is it Planet Emulation?
Or is it another big ROMs repository? (I cannot remember the name right now)

Quote:

Originally Posted by DamienD

Just for reference, the complete "disk" based Amiga TOSEC files are roughly 28GB in size.

Aaaahh!

prowler · 01 March 2009, 00:27

Quote:

Originally Posted by DamienD

... and the DATs from this pack.

Hey Damien,

The link is screwed! (Contains an embedded [url].) Needs editing.

prowler

DamienD · 01 March 2009, 00:28

Quote:

Originally Posted by Supamax

Is it Planet Emulation?

No it's not Planet Emulation, that set is way old now

Quote:

Originally Posted by Supamax

Or is it another big ROMs repository? (I cannot remember the name right now)

As said above I cannot post the links on EAB... While on the same topic, I really hate to spoil your parade but are you sure those links don't contain the KickStart ROMs / Workbench disks? If you're unsure please don't post them here and just download yourself to find out

DamienD · 01 March 2009, 00:31

Quote:

Originally Posted by prowler

Hey Damien,

The link is screwed! (Contains an embedded [url].) Needs editing.

prowler

Ooops, thanks for pointing that out prowler. Fixed

Supamax · 01 March 2009, 00:32

Quote:

Originally Posted by DamienD

While on the same topic, I really hate to spoil your parade but are you sure those links don't contain the KickStart ROMs / Workbench disks? If you're unsure please don't post them here and just download yourself to find out

I'm not sure at all (I didn't download it), so I'm deleting them

.

DamienD · 01 March 2009, 00:36

Quote:

Originally Posted by Supamax

I'm not sure at all (I didn't download it), so I'm deleting them

.

I'm sorry I had to bring it up but rules are rules and we wouldn't want EAB to get in trouble

As mentioned, it's best if you download them yourself and afterwards post the links that you know are definitely ok

Supamax · 01 March 2009, 00:39

Still, I dont' understand (I'm not polemic, just asking) why Kickstarts and Workbenchs can't be shared under the sun, but games (cracked or not) can.
They are all copyrighted material!

EDIT: I would say that games are more copyrighted, since Commodore is dead while most software houses are not...

Graham Humphrey · 01 March 2009, 00:43

Not this old chestnut again.

Do a search or something but briefly - anything that is still actively being sold or supported (like Workbench/Kickstart) is not allowed to be uploaded here on EAB, and it is not allowed to post links to sites containing them as we could get in trouble with the copyright holders as they want to sell these things.

DamienD · 01 March 2009, 00:47

Quote:

Originally Posted by Supamax

Still, I dont' understand (I'm not polemic, just asking) why Kickstarts and Workbenchs can't be shared under the sun, but games (cracked or not) can.
They are all copyrighted material!

A very quick answer would be that most games you cannot purchase new anymore from sellers / suppliers and are considered abandonware (if there's such a term)... Anything that can still be puchased is definietly not allowed on EAB. The Rules & Help tries to briefly let members know the situation. Also have a search through EAB, there are quite a few threads that try to address this grey area.

As for KickStart ROMS and Workbench disk, Cloanto have the rights and are selling a commercial package...

ma693541 · 01 March 2009, 00:48

How to get Workbench disks and Kickstart roms legally. Buy Amiga Forever from their own site or from AmiKit's site. I have got AF 2006 myself from AF's own site so i have them legally.

Supamax · 01 March 2009, 00:49

@ Graham & Damien

Thanks, I should have searched before asking

Retro-Nerd · 01 March 2009, 00:50

Quote:

Originally Posted by DamienD

As for KickStart ROMS and Workbench disk, Cloanto have the rights and are selling a commercial package...

Cloanto have the distribution rights, not the Copyright. Toni said that they would like to release the kickstarts for free, but they don't have the permission. I still wonder who exactly owns the rights for the Kickstarts.

prowler · 01 March 2009, 00:57

@Supamax @Damien @Graham,

Surely it is not necessary to download the entire TOSEC Amiga disk-based archive just to check whether a certain title has been dumped?

I should think something similar to TCD's attachment in this post:
http://eab.abime.net/showpost.php?p=507888&postcount=22
would be quite adequate, if it was extended to cover all included disks rather than just the Workbench disks.

Does such a list exist? (Perhaps TCD could give us an answer.)

prowler

DamienD · 01 March 2009, 00:57

Quote:

Originally Posted by Retro-Nerd

Cloanto have the distribution rights, not the Copyright. Toni said that they would like to release the kickstarts for free, but they don't have the permission. I still wonder who exactly owns the rights for the Kickstarts.

Whatever, TBH I don't really care what Cloanto have / don't have. I know that you already know this Retro, the fact is that they cannot be uploaded / linked to on EAB...

Please guys, let's try not to drag this thread into another copyright debate.

Retro-Nerd · 01 March 2009, 01:00

That's true. But don't post wrong infos, even if you don't care about it. No offense, as always matey.

28 February 2009, 23:50	#1
Supamax Da Digger :) Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Monza, Italy Posts: 2,822	Latest TOSEC archive Hi, where could I find/download the updated latest TOSEC archive? Is there a fast website (not trrent/eule links) from which I could download the whole archive or single titles? I have some dumped floppies which I would like to compare with TOSEC's to see if they have been dumped yet. Hopefully, this thread can be helpful to other users too .

01 March 2009, 00:13	#4
Supamax Da Digger :) Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Monza, Italy Posts: 2,822	I found something, but I don't know if it's the latest archive. Also, I don't know if I can post here the direct links . [Deleted links] Last edited by Supamax; 01 March 2009 at 00:34.

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28 February 2009, 23:53	#2
prowler Global Moderator Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Sidcup, England Posts: 10,300	Good question, Supamax! I've often wondered about the answer to this! prowler

01 March 2009, 00:39	#12
Supamax Da Digger :) Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Monza, Italy Posts: 2,822	Still, I dont' understand (I'm not polemic, just asking) why Kickstarts and Workbenchs can't be shared under the sun, but games (cracked or not) can. They are all copyrighted material! EDIT: I would say that games are more copyrighted, since Commodore is dead while most software houses are not...

01 March 2009, 00:43	#13
Graham Humphrey Moderator Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Norwich, Norfolk, UK Age: 37 Posts: 11,167	Not this old chestnut again. Do a search or something but briefly - anything that is still actively being sold or supported (like Workbench/Kickstart) is not allowed to be uploaded here on EAB, and it is not allowed to post links to sites containing them as we could get in trouble with the copyright holders as they want to sell these things.

01 March 2009, 00:48	#15
ma693541 Computer Wizard Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Ramberg/Norway Posts: 928	How to get Workbench disks and Kickstart roms legally. Buy Amiga Forever from their own site or from AmiKit's site. I have got AF 2006 myself from AF's own site so i have them legally.

01 March 2009, 00:49	#16
Supamax Da Digger :) Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Monza, Italy Posts: 2,822	@ Graham & Damien Thanks, I should have searched before asking

01 March 2009, 00:57	#18
prowler Global Moderator Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Sidcup, England Posts: 10,300	@Supamax @Damien @Graham, Surely it is not necessary to download the entire TOSEC Amiga disk-based archive just to check whether a certain title has been dumped? I should think something similar to TCD's attachment in this post: http://eab.abime.net/showpost.php?p=507888&postcount=22 would be quite adequate, if it was extended to cover all included disks rather than just the Workbench disks. Does such a list exist? (Perhaps TCD could give us an answer.) prowler

01 March 2009, 01:00	#20
Retro-Nerd Missile Command Champion Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Germany Age: 52 Posts: 12,435	That's true. But don't post wrong infos, even if you don't care about it. No offense, as always matey.

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