Any reason for running hdf games compared to whdload on real A1200?

emuola · 14 January 2017, 12:13

I know hdf-files (one game/hdf, WB included) are very handy with for example MiST/Winuae, but is there any reasonable reason (poetry...) for running hdf-based games on a real A1200 compared to "the standard" whdload on a ClassicWB?

Plussses/minuses?

demolition · 14 January 2017, 12:33

How would you run HDF files on a real Amiga? Mount as an image and reboot into it using RAD:? Can't see the benefit of that, other than you'll have fewer files on your HDD.

emuola · 14 January 2017, 13:37

Quote:

Originally Posted by demolition

How would you run HDF files on a real Amiga? Mount as an image and reboot into it using RAD:? Can't see the benefit of that, other than you'll have fewer files on your HDD.

I thought it actually is possible with a boot floppy of sorts? That's actually the reason I'm asking: I don't have the slightest idea

DamienD · 14 January 2017, 14:07

Do you mean installing games using their "native" installer as opposed to using the WHDLoad versions?

In this case it can mean less memory required. From what I've seen with WHDLoad you need a shite load of memory, especially with larger games.

idrougge · 15 January 2017, 04:34

No.

Anakirob · 15 January 2017, 08:32

Well, memory use has been mentioned. But another reason one might want to mount a HDF is simply when there is no WHDLoad install available, or maybe the slave is buggy and still needs some work.

emuola · 15 January 2017, 09:09

I was referring the these versions made by ransom1122:

http://eab.abime.net/showthread.php?t=84267

Would these be of any use on a real A1200?

ajk · 15 January 2017, 09:19

Those are essentially installs where the only thing you have on the hard drive is a single WHDLoad install of a game. Unless you only ever want to play that particular game, no, it doesn't make sense to use those on a real system.

emuola · 15 January 2017, 09:27

Quote:

Originally Posted by ajk

Those are essentially installs where the only thing you have on the hard drive is a single WHDLoad install of a game. Unless you only ever want to play that particular game, no, it doesn't make sense to use those on a real system.

Ok, thanks for the explanations folks

idrougge · 15 January 2017, 16:28

Quote:

Originally Posted by Anakirob

Well, memory use has been mentioned. But another reason one might want to mount a HDF is simply when there is no WHDLoad install available, or maybe the slave is buggy and still needs some work.

That usually won't help you since such old installs usually require manual assigns to be set.

Anakirob · 15 January 2017, 16:36

Umm, what? If I mount a HDF which has had a game installed on it then won't it already have the appropriate drive label? And I don't see the problem with having to make an assign anyway.

idrougge · 16 January 2017, 01:56

It's often more than one drive label (Civilization uses at least four), and if you're going to make assigns by yourself, why use a HDF when you could just have installed the game on your own drive (or used an lha archive) in the first place?

14 January 2017, 12:13	#1
emuola Registered Whdload user Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Finland Age: 48 Posts: 532	Any reason for running hdf games compared to whdload on real A1200? I know hdf-files (one game/hdf, WB included) are very handy with for example MiST/Winuae, but is there any reasonable reason (poetry...) for running hdf-based games on a real A1200 compared to "the standard" whdload on a ClassicWB? Plussses/minuses? Last edited by emuola; 14 January 2017 at 12:29.

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14 January 2017, 12:33	#2
demolition Unregistered User Join Date: Sep 2012 Location: Copenhagen / DK Age: 43 Posts: 4,190	How would you run HDF files on a real Amiga? Mount as an image and reboot into it using RAD:? Can't see the benefit of that, other than you'll have fewer files on your HDD.

14 January 2017, 14:07	#4
DamienD Banned Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: London / Sydney Age: 47 Posts: 20,420	Do you mean installing games using their "native" installer as opposed to using the WHDLoad versions? In this case it can mean less memory required. From what I've seen with WHDLoad you need a shite load of memory, especially with larger games.

15 January 2017, 04:34	#5
idrougge Registered User Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Stockholm Posts: 4,337	No.

15 January 2017, 08:32	#6
Anakirob Unregistered User Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Tasmania Age: 42 Posts: 893	Well, memory use has been mentioned. But another reason one might want to mount a HDF is simply when there is no WHDLoad install available, or maybe the slave is buggy and still needs some work.

15 January 2017, 09:09	#7
emuola Registered Whdload user Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Finland Age: 48 Posts: 532	I was referring the these versions made by ransom1122: http://eab.abime.net/showthread.php?t=84267 Would these be of any use on a real A1200?

15 January 2017, 09:19	#8
ajk Registered User Join Date: May 2010 Location: Helsinki, Finland Posts: 1,341	Those are essentially installs where the only thing you have on the hard drive is a single WHDLoad install of a game. Unless you only ever want to play that particular game, no, it doesn't make sense to use those on a real system.

15 January 2017, 16:36	#11
Anakirob Unregistered User Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Tasmania Age: 42 Posts: 893	Umm, what? If I mount a HDF which has had a game installed on it then won't it already have the appropriate drive label? And I don't see the problem with having to make an assign anyway.

16 January 2017, 01:56	#12
idrougge Registered User Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Stockholm Posts: 4,337	It's often more than one drive label (Civilization uses at least four), and if you're going to make assigns by yourself, why use a HDF when you could just have installed the game on your own drive (or used an lha archive) in the first place?

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