Battleships with speech ADF - Page 2

BarryB · 14 May 2019, 23:12

Seems the budget versions skipped the RNC protection and most of the upper side is wasted as it's mostly trash/unformatted and not used!

Galahad/FLT · 14 May 2019, 23:25

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Originally Posted by BarryB

Seems the budget versions skipped the RNC protection and most of the upper side is wasted as it's mostly trash/unformatted and not used!

Side effect of it being an Atari ST format, ST developers had to contend with ST owners that had single sided drives and double sided drives, so for a long time, they wrote their games to be single side loaders and had to add disks instead of using the other side.

BarryB · 14 May 2019, 23:52

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Originally Posted by Galahad/FLT

Side effect of it being an Atari ST format, ST developers had to contend with ST owners that had single sided drives and double sided drives, so for a long time, they wrote their games to be single side loaders and had to add disks instead of using the other side.

Well that's 'single' minded Atari for you

Galahad/FLT · 14 May 2019, 23:55

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Originally Posted by BarryB

Well that's 'single' minded Atari for you

its a bizarre situation really, I don't know why they didn't force owners to change their drives.

its what they did with Amiga, every game needed 1meg of memory, owners went and upgraded.

Upgrading a floppy drive in an ST wasn't tricky.

BarryB · 16 May 2019, 01:11

I did *cough* own *cough* a 520ST once but mine did have a double sided drive in it funnily enough, can't ever remember upgrading the drive but I did take it to some computer place in Loughborough around 1985 to have it upgraded to 1meg, not as easy as popping in an extra 512k like in the Amiga though!

ransom1122 · 16 May 2019, 02:04

Tried out the speech it works, but boy oh boy does it sound horrible.... also the way Enemy is typed NME lol

BarryB · 16 May 2019, 19:39

Must have been every byte of that single side used that ENEMY was just too much to fit on

DrBong · 17 May 2019, 16:41

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Originally Posted by BarryB

It's the Pocket Power Collection release that has speech, I have this version and it does have speech!

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Originally Posted by Hewitson

I have an original of Elite Battleships, it does have the speech from memory.

As I originally thought, all commercial releases of Battleships appear to have speech. Makes me wonder whether all the cracks without speech came from leaked beta copies of the game, or if the cracks were botched or butchered in some way.

Anyway, I'd rather have speech than no speech during the game.....even if the speech isn't the greatest! Otherwise it becomes a bit monotonous like the C64 version of Beach Head with just simple sound FX.

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Originally Posted by Galahad/FLT

Theres no RNC protection at all.

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Originally Posted by BarryB

Seems the budget versions skipped the RNC protection and most of the upper side is wasted as it's mostly trash/unformatted and not used!

IIRC, RNC is utilised on the original releases (must check again for my own curiosity), but not on the budget/compilation versions. Rob Northen reckons he did do some protection for the game, though - the game's listed in his cracking interview with Ian.

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Originally Posted by BarryB

I did *cough* own *cough* a 520ST once <snipped>

Oh dear! Better go stand in the corner Barry!!

BarryB · 17 May 2019, 21:43

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Originally Posted by DrBong

Oh dear! Better go stand in the corner Barry!!

I know, I think most people would rather admit they were gay than owning an ST

But, the ST was actually a good machine.......... when it was switched off, put in a cupboard and forgotten about

Hewitson · 18 May 2019, 11:20

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Originally Posted by DrBong

As I originally thought, all commercial releases of Battleships appear to have speech. Makes me wonder whether all the cracks without speech came from leaked beta copies of the game, or if the cracks were botched or butchered in some way.

They probably just removed the speech in order to fit more on the disk. This was back in the time when compacts were common.

Galahad/FLT · 19 May 2019, 18:39

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Originally Posted by Hewitson

They probably just removed the speech in order to fit more on the disk. This was back in the time when compacts were common.

Not likely, I managed to compress this speech version to less than 160K as a single file with nothing removed.

16 May 2019, 02:04	#26
ransom1122 Registered User Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: Omnicorp Age: 45 Posts: 5,814	Tried out the speech it works, but boy oh boy does it sound horrible.... also the way Enemy is typed NME lol Last edited by ransom1122; 17 May 2019 at 00:21.

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14 May 2019, 23:12	#21
BarryB Amigaholic Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: UK Posts: 4,679	Seems the budget versions skipped the RNC protection and most of the upper side is wasted as it's mostly trash/unformatted and not used!

16 May 2019, 01:11	#25
BarryB Amigaholic Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: UK Posts: 4,679	I did cough own cough a 520ST once but mine did have a double sided drive in it funnily enough, can't ever remember upgrading the drive but I did take it to some computer place in Loughborough around 1985 to have it upgraded to 1meg, not as easy as popping in an extra 512k like in the Amiga though!

16 May 2019, 19:39	#27
BarryB Amigaholic Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: UK Posts: 4,679	Must have been every byte of that single side used that ENEMY was just too much to fit on

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