The best EVER Amiga RPG game - Page 6

TCD · 15 May 2008, 18:00

Quote:

Originally Posted by MazinKaesar

Can Waxworks and Elvira series be considered RPG? I think thery're are just graphical adventures in first person... :|

As I'm a old skool pen & paper junky, I would say they are even more RPG than EOB

. But when it comes to compare these three games with 'normal' computer RPG's you're completly right. They miss the character setup/evolution (well there is little) and all the equipment stuff (yes except the weapons

).

Macca · 15 May 2008, 19:00

Quote:

Originally Posted by MazinKaesar

Can Waxworks and Elvira series be considered RPG? I think thery're are just graphical adventures in first person... :|

Well you play the part of people (i.e. you role play the part of a geek or whatever in Elvira) so I'd say they were!

We're not talking about Dungeons and Dragons where you roll stats, etc. we're talking RPGs.

M.

Marcuz · 15 May 2008, 19:11

heh... so, Macca and Cyberdruid would you like to describe the difference between Adventure and RPG?

TCD · 15 May 2008, 19:25

Well okay I'll try

A pen & paper RPG is much more like a adventure where you must find clues and talk to people to advance in your quest. So a computer adventure is like an RPG with no stats and fights.
A computer RPG is based on the fighting system of a pen & paper RPG. You have the stats, hitpoints and skills/spells. I would say 'tradional' computer RPG's (AD&D, Ultima, Might & Magic) are closer to strategy games than P&P RPG.
That's why I would say Elvira and Waxworks are RPG's (you have to solve puzzles and fight enemies), but you can count them as Action-Adventures which is also true.
These games are hybrids and somehow unique, so it's hard to put them in one corner

Dizzy · 15 May 2008, 19:57

so Tomb Raider is rpg too (you have to solve puzzles and fight enemies)

Shoonay · 15 May 2008, 20:01

lol@dizz... but it doesn't have all those lovely numbers&statistics

TCD · 15 May 2008, 20:10

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dizzy

so Tomb Raider is rpg too (you have to solve puzzles and fight enemies)

Yeah and Doom too

Dizzy · 15 May 2008, 20:52

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Originally Posted by 5h00n4y

lol@dizz... but it doesn't have all those lovely numbers&statistics

but it got a nude patch

Shoonay · 15 May 2008, 21:07

alright, dizzy wins

mfletcher · 15 May 2008, 21:08

Loved Dungeon Master, but played it on an ST

I liked Hired Guns too.

spajdr · 15 May 2008, 22:05

1. Black Crypt
2. Dungeon Master

Although i played DM more

Marcuz · 15 May 2008, 23:35

Quote:

Originally Posted by TheCyberDruid

Yeah and Doom too

and Gods!

macce2 · 16 May 2008, 01:46

Posted via Mobile Deviceit seems that must be Ambermoon..ultima 6 comes a good second.

Methanoid · 16 May 2008, 08:40

1. Dungeon Master (he's THE Daddy)
2. EOTB
3. Black Crypt
4. Xenomorph (DM in Space!!!) - loved that game

Now just gotta decide which to play in an emu or shall I install an emu in PPC phone or on PSP and play on the train... hmmmmm

Macca · 16 May 2008, 09:41

Black Crypt has a few mentions and I've not tried that so I think that will be a go once I have my Amiga sorted!

M.

Marcuz · 16 May 2008, 10:13

Quote:

Originally Posted by Macca

Black Crypt has a few mentions and I've not tried that so I think that will be a go once I have my Amiga sorted!

M.

if you have enjoyed Dungeons and Dragons and Eye of Beholder (specially the first one: Black Crypt has no npc encounters) you'll love it!

spajdr · 16 May 2008, 12:33

I think that Black Crypt is best gfx looking dungeon crawler on Amiga

Andy 01 · 16 May 2008, 16:35

For me Black Crypt has always been the number 1, as it was the first Amiga game I played, and it just blew me away. I still have the original large box version in the loft, with the software bug that gave you a sword with 158 hit points. I'm playing a pc port of DM at the moment, which has chaos in the same folder. Going to try to complete them first. (last time was about 18 years ago). But, now I have WinUAE running I'm heading straight for Black Crypt after that, then EOTB 1 & 2, followed by the Monkey Islands. Should keep me going for the next year

Macca · 16 May 2008, 19:26

Aye it should.

I could never complete Chaos Strikes Back, even with the Character Hack, it was just too damn hard and confusing to get around.

M.

YoJoe! · 21 June 2008, 09:52

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dizzy

Okay we have an adventure thread what about your 2 favourite rpg game...

Eye of the beholder

Legend

(and as number 3 Bloodwych

)

Total Chaos
Hired Guns

We like to play in groups and have parties and blow stuff up.

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15 May 2008, 19:11	#103
Marcuz Registered User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: . Age: 48 Posts: 5,562	heh... so, Macca and Cyberdruid would you like to describe the difference between Adventure and RPG?

15 May 2008, 19:25	#104
TCD HOL/FTP busy bee Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Germany Age: 46 Posts: 31,525	Well okay I'll try A pen & paper RPG is much more like a adventure where you must find clues and talk to people to advance in your quest. So a computer adventure is like an RPG with no stats and fights. A computer RPG is based on the fighting system of a pen & paper RPG. You have the stats, hitpoints and skills/spells. I would say 'tradional' computer RPG's (AD&D, Ultima, Might & Magic) are closer to strategy games than P&P RPG. That's why I would say Elvira and Waxworks are RPG's (you have to solve puzzles and fight enemies), but you can count them as Action-Adventures which is also true. These games are hybrids and somehow unique, so it's hard to put them in one corner

15 May 2008, 19:57	#105
Dizzy Pirate Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Denmark Posts: 3,395	so Tomb Raider is rpg too (you have to solve puzzles and fight enemies)

15 May 2008, 20:01	#106
Shoonay Global Caturator Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Porando Age: 43 Posts: 6,105	lol@dizz... but it doesn't have all those lovely numbers&statistics

15 May 2008, 21:07	#109
Shoonay Global Caturator Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Porando Age: 43 Posts: 6,105	alright, dizzy wins

15 May 2008, 21:08	#110
mfletcher Bawbag. Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Chicago, USA Posts: 375	Loved Dungeon Master, but played it on an ST I liked Hired Guns too.

15 May 2008, 22:05	#111
spajdr Old fart Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Ostrava/Czech Republic Age: 46 Posts: 315	1. Black Crypt 2. Dungeon Master Although i played DM more

16 May 2008, 01:46	#113
macce2 Retro maniac Join Date: May 2005 Location: Finland Age: 49 Posts: 1,219	Posted via Mobile Deviceit seems that must be Ambermoon..ultima 6 comes a good second.

16 May 2008, 08:40	#114
Methanoid Retired Quartex Sysop Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: Roman Verulamium Age: 58 Posts: 1,873	1. Dungeon Master (he's THE Daddy) 2. EOTB 3. Black Crypt 4. Xenomorph (DM in Space!!!) - loved that game Now just gotta decide which to play in an emu or shall I install an emu in PPC phone or on PSP and play on the train... hmmmmm

16 May 2008, 09:41	#115
Macca Zone Friend Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Gloucester Posts: 697	Black Crypt has a few mentions and I've not tried that so I think that will be a go once I have my Amiga sorted! M.

16 May 2008, 12:33	#117
spajdr Old fart Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Ostrava/Czech Republic Age: 46 Posts: 315	I think that Black Crypt is best gfx looking dungeon crawler on Amiga

16 May 2008, 16:35	#118
Andy 01 Registered User Join Date: May 2008 Location: Colchester, UK Age: 55 Posts: 26	For me Black Crypt has always been the number 1, as it was the first Amiga game I played, and it just blew me away. I still have the original large box version in the loft, with the software bug that gave you a sword with 158 hit points. I'm playing a pc port of DM at the moment, which has chaos in the same folder. Going to try to complete them first. (last time was about 18 years ago). But, now I have WinUAE running I'm heading straight for Black Crypt after that, then EOTB 1 & 2, followed by the Monkey Islands. Should keep me going for the next year

16 May 2008, 19:26	#119
Macca Zone Friend Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Gloucester Posts: 697	Aye it should. I could never complete Chaos Strikes Back, even with the Character Hack, it was just too damn hard and confusing to get around. M.

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