WinUAE 0.8.21R1 OUT

Toni Wilen · 23 February 2002, 21:09

WinUAE 0.8.21R1 is out!
http://www.winuae.net/

Expect stupid last-minute bugs or something...

23 February 2002, 21:11

Congratulations!!!
New site is cool as well

My first impressions if you'd like to hear:
My 3.1 and 3.5 systems are slowed down significantly. It's probably because of picasso screen modes but it's so slow that I can't even run the screenmode program, it seems to lock up attempting to list the contents of the prefs dir. That's the issue with and without JIT. I also recieve workbench errors during bootup (looks like magiccolors is attempted to be run five times over and over. It's in my wbstartup dir) and wbpattern cannot load the window&workbench wallpapers at all, fails with an error.

My plain 3.1 setup boots normally. I don't use any extra features, not even a wallpaper with that.

Good luck and thanks again

jmmijo · 23 February 2002, 21:56

I'm heading on over now

Djay · 23 February 2002, 21:58

a couple questions

is this an official release?

why do i get weird scanlines, when scanlines are off, tested in windows mode only?

is a fairly fast machine, needed for movie creation (good feature,btw), if anyone gets this to run well, can they pls do State of the Art demo, thanx

keep up the kool work!

Toni Wilen · 23 February 2002, 22:05

Quote:

My 3.1 and 3.5 systems are slowed down significantly

Check your CPU settings. It is possible your CPU settings are not what you expect (especially CPU speed selection)

23 February 2002, 22:16

You're right my cpu speed was set to "match a500 speed". That's the way it was since I set up my workbench a few releases ago and didn't seem to effect anything, so it does now.

I set it to fastest possible. Now it boots faster but locks down within a minute. Other problems also continue. Sorry I really would like to say better things

RetroMan · 23 February 2002, 22:28

I cannot even start it (Windows ME)

It doesn´t show up the GUI, however the task itself is running in the background

Toni Wilen · 23 February 2002, 22:35

More suggestions:

Any change if you delete configurations/default.uae? (if you have
it)

Run it with -console parameter ("winuae.exe -console") Any strange messages?

It seems UAE 0821's new filesystem code isn't 100% stable yet. (but it works perfectly on my pc..)

Also note that sound buffer size is not comparable to old versions. 3 or bigger is probably needed for good sound quality.

RetroMan · 23 February 2002, 22:51

Ok, at last I can start it with killing the default.uae but it is slow as hell (I have checked the settings, CPU is 040 and Fastest Possible Speed) and every time I try to open a directory/harddrive the emulator resets

I will try a clean 3.1 install later on, maybe thats the problem ....

23 February 2002, 22:56

When I boot with no startup and run loadwb, I encounter no slowdown as datatypes, prefs, startup-sequence and user-startup aren't loaded this way. It also doesn't crash but the errors are still there. Deleting default.uae didn't change anything for I never used it anyway. I'm alien to console but I'm sure I don't get any unusual messages. I'm using iff files as backgrounds, can an incompatible iff datatype be the reason of wbpattern problem?

Toni Wilen · 23 February 2002, 23:14

Can someone run commands in startup-sequence/user-startup and WBStartup manually until system crashes? This bug must be found quickly.

New filesystem code has one big difference, old code handled "illegal" filenames very differently than new. Old simply failed to open file if filename was "illegal", new supports all "illegal" filenames (it stores "illegal" filenames in a special file _UAEFSDB.___) but code that detects when file name is "illegal" is different. This may cause problems with "semi-illegal" filenames.

I guess some program that gets run when system starts stores config data in a file that has "semi-illegal" name (new filesystem code tries to read it from _UAEFSDB.___ = file not found)

23 February 2002, 23:28

I doubt I can detect the problem this way. A crash does not happen. It loads the startup files, then wbstartup and displays errors about wbpattern prefs and wbstartup programs and then workbench locks up. The application itself doesn't crash. By entering the lines one by one I don't think I can sense when the problem is triggered. Maybe someone else.

Ian · 23 February 2002, 23:35

Just tested it and ......

Whoohooo!!

Changing the settings ...... on the fly!!!!

A great release Toni

But being a two bit whore, I wish to request something

Would it be possible to put a fps counter in full screen mode as well as windowed mode??

Thanks, your efforts have paid off

Fred the Fop · 23 February 2002, 23:51

Well, I am testing it with my WinUAE HD 3.1 WB setup, and it won't come on, just WB 3.1 bootup screen. The other WINUAE versions in the folder work, not this. What could be causing this?

jmmijo · 24 February 2002, 00:11

I initially started with a 32MB RTG frame buffer, it ran very slow. I then went back and set the RTG to 0 and only used the 2MB CHIP and 32MB Z3-Fast. It's running very smooth now. This is with kickstart 3.1 and WB 3.1 on a newly created 1GB HDF. I also installed Dopus 5.5 and Zak Mckraken to test it out. Zak seems to run very smoothely and the sound is right on. I do see some scanline artifcacts however, but they are outside the normal 800 x 600 screen size.

I'll mess around some more and see what happens.

EDIT: Well no go, seems the HD Toolbox can read the drive info but because it's so large it gives you back a minus amount on the HD size

Messing around with the Heads and Cylinders does help but will most likely fail as these larger HD's use the EXT13 BIOS options only available in the newer PC mobo's or separate controller cards like those from Promise and Adaptec.

Perhaps the latest 3.9 OS has an updated Toolbox to handle this?!?

Paul · 24 February 2002, 11:07

Wow! I think this is the best version yet! Well Done!

To get my adf demos of State of the Art and Technological Death to work, I had to set the cpu settings to 68000 and tick More Compatible and no JIT this worked perfectly with no choppy sound and hardly no graphic problems

Djay · 24 February 2002, 16:01

a bit like the famous 08.08.R8 version, then Paul

Djay · 24 February 2002, 16:44

why does it do this, (HELP, please)

i've had to crop the image slightly, to manage to get it on EAB, with no loss of quality.

Djay · 24 February 2002, 16:46

and if anyone has a bullet proof, config yet could they please upload to the zone, thanx in advance!!!

§ane · 24 February 2002, 16:55

@Djay: Avoid using Correct aspect ratio with scanlines.

23 February 2002, 21:09	#1
Toni Wilen WinUAE developer Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Hämeenlinna/Finland Age: 49 Posts: 26,502	WinUAE 0.8.21R1 OUT WinUAE 0.8.21R1 is out! http://www.winuae.net/ Expect stupid last-minute bugs or something...

23 February 2002, 21:11	#2
oldpx Posts: n/a	Congratulations!!! New site is cool as well My first impressions if you'd like to hear: My 3.1 and 3.5 systems are slowed down significantly. It's probably because of picasso screen modes but it's so slow that I can't even run the screenmode program, it seems to lock up attempting to list the contents of the prefs dir. That's the issue with and without JIT. I also recieve workbench errors during bootup (looks like magiccolors is attempted to be run five times over and over. It's in my wbstartup dir) and wbpattern cannot load the window&workbench wallpapers at all, fails with an error. My plain 3.1 setup boots normally. I don't use any extra features, not even a wallpaper with that. Good luck and thanks again Last edited by Burseg; 23 February 2002 at 22:04.

24 February 2002, 00:11	#15
jmmijo Junior Member Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: PDX Age: 62 Posts: 2,395	I initially started with a 32MB RTG frame buffer, it ran very slow. I then went back and set the RTG to 0 and only used the 2MB CHIP and 32MB Z3-Fast. It's running very smooth now. This is with kickstart 3.1 and WB 3.1 on a newly created 1GB HDF. I also installed Dopus 5.5 and Zak Mckraken to test it out. Zak seems to run very smoothely and the sound is right on. I do see some scanline artifcacts however, but they are outside the normal 800 x 600 screen size. I'll mess around some more and see what happens. EDIT: Well no go, seems the HD Toolbox can read the drive info but because it's so large it gives you back a minus amount on the HD size Messing around with the Heads and Cylinders does help but will most likely fail as these larger HD's use the EXT13 BIOS options only available in the newer PC mobo's or separate controller cards like those from Promise and Adaptec. Perhaps the latest 3.9 OS has an updated Toolbox to handle this?!? Last edited by jmmijo; 24 February 2002 at 01:15.

24 February 2002, 16:44	#18
Djay 95th User Join Date: May 2001 Location: Brighton/UK Age: 48 Posts: 3,120	why does it do this, (HELP, please) i've had to crop the image slightly, to manage to get it on EAB, with no loss of quality. Attached Thumbnails

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23 February 2002, 21:56	#3
jmmijo Junior Member Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: PDX Age: 62 Posts: 2,395	I'm heading on over now

23 February 2002, 21:58	#4
Djay 95th User Join Date: May 2001 Location: Brighton/UK Age: 48 Posts: 3,120	a couple questions is this an official release? why do i get weird scanlines, when scanlines are off, tested in windows mode only? is a fairly fast machine, needed for movie creation (good feature,btw), if anyone gets this to run well, can they pls do State of the Art demo, thanx keep up the kool work!

23 February 2002, 22:16	#6
oldpx Posts: n/a	You're right my cpu speed was set to "match a500 speed". That's the way it was since I set up my workbench a few releases ago and didn't seem to effect anything, so it does now. I set it to fastest possible. Now it boots faster but locks down within a minute. Other problems also continue. Sorry I really would like to say better things

23 February 2002, 22:28	#7
RetroMan Registered User Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Germany Age: 51 Posts: 3,704	I cannot even start it (Windows ME) It doesn´t show up the GUI, however the task itself is running in the background

23 February 2002, 22:35	#8
Toni Wilen WinUAE developer Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Hämeenlinna/Finland Age: 49 Posts: 26,502	More suggestions: Any change if you delete configurations/default.uae? (if you have it) Run it with -console parameter ("winuae.exe -console") Any strange messages? It seems UAE 0821's new filesystem code isn't 100% stable yet. (but it works perfectly on my pc..) Also note that sound buffer size is not comparable to old versions. 3 or bigger is probably needed for good sound quality.

23 February 2002, 22:51	#9
RetroMan Registered User Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Germany Age: 51 Posts: 3,704	Ok, at last I can start it with killing the default.uae but it is slow as hell (I have checked the settings, CPU is 040 and Fastest Possible Speed) and every time I try to open a directory/harddrive the emulator resets I will try a clean 3.1 install later on, maybe thats the problem ....

23 February 2002, 22:56	#10
oldpx Posts: n/a	When I boot with no startup and run loadwb, I encounter no slowdown as datatypes, prefs, startup-sequence and user-startup aren't loaded this way. It also doesn't crash but the errors are still there. Deleting default.uae didn't change anything for I never used it anyway. I'm alien to console but I'm sure I don't get any unusual messages. I'm using iff files as backgrounds, can an incompatible iff datatype be the reason of wbpattern problem?

23 February 2002, 23:14	#11
Toni Wilen WinUAE developer Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Hämeenlinna/Finland Age: 49 Posts: 26,502	Can someone run commands in startup-sequence/user-startup and WBStartup manually until system crashes? This bug must be found quickly. New filesystem code has one big difference, old code handled "illegal" filenames very differently than new. Old simply failed to open file if filename was "illegal", new supports all "illegal" filenames (it stores "illegal" filenames in a special file _UAEFSDB.___) but code that detects when file name is "illegal" is different. This may cause problems with "semi-illegal" filenames. I guess some program that gets run when system starts stores config data in a file that has "semi-illegal" name (new filesystem code tries to read it from _UAEFSDB.___ = file not found)

23 February 2002, 23:28	#12
oldpx Posts: n/a	I doubt I can detect the problem this way. A crash does not happen. It loads the startup files, then wbstartup and displays errors about wbpattern prefs and wbstartup programs and then workbench locks up. The application itself doesn't crash. By entering the lines one by one I don't think I can sense when the problem is triggered. Maybe someone else.

23 February 2002, 23:35	#13
Ian Global Moderator Join Date: May 2001 Location: Derby, UK Age: 46 Posts: 2,287	Just tested it and ...... Whoohooo!! Changing the settings ...... on the fly!!!! A great release Toni But being a two bit whore, I wish to request something Would it be possible to put a fps counter in full screen mode as well as windowed mode?? Thanks, your efforts have paid off

23 February 2002, 23:51	#14
Fred the Fop flaming faggot Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Versailles Age: 55 Posts: 2,808	Well, I am testing it with my WinUAE HD 3.1 WB setup, and it won't come on, just WB 3.1 bootup screen. The other WINUAE versions in the folder work, not this. What could be causing this?

24 February 2002, 11:07	#16
Paul RIP Friends Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: UK Posts: 2,157	Wow! I think this is the best version yet! Well Done! To get my adf demos of State of the Art and Technological Death to work, I had to set the cpu settings to 68000 and tick More Compatible and no JIT this worked perfectly with no choppy sound and hardly no graphic problems

24 February 2002, 16:01	#17
Djay 95th User Join Date: May 2001 Location: Brighton/UK Age: 48 Posts: 3,120	a bit like the famous 08.08.R8 version, then Paul

24 February 2002, 16:46	#19
Djay 95th User Join Date: May 2001 Location: Brighton/UK Age: 48 Posts: 3,120	and if anyone has a bullet proof, config yet could they please upload to the zone, thanx in advance!!!

24 February 2002, 16:55	#20
§ane Registered User Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: . Age: 44 Posts: 246	@Djay: Avoid using Correct aspect ratio with scanlines.

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