WTB: A4000 68060 board

papa_november · 19 January 2009, 22:46

It can be pretty much any make/model. It doesn't have to have SCSI, but it does have to work. Something like a Cyberstorm Mk. I or II or GVP T-Rex would be ideal.

Any 040 card with a known doable upgrade path to an 060 might work too.

alexh · 19 January 2009, 22:51

Apollo 4040?

papa_november · 19 January 2009, 23:04

That would be pretty cool, yeah.

I'd need an additional voltage regulator board to upgrade it. Are they still available? How much would they be? The EPROM wouldn't be an issue as I can burn it myself. (It's dumped, right?)

Zetr0 · 19 January 2009, 23:06

@papa_november

you may also need the 131 updated MACH chips as well. Per Gunner might be able to help in upgrading this item. as you may know he can be found on Amiga.org

alexh · 19 January 2009, 23:08

Quote:

Originally Posted by Zetr0

you may also need the 131 updated MACH chips as well.

Possibly but no-one really knows. There is no running thread with someone actually upgrading their 4040 (which is why it is still in my cupboard)

Zetr0 · 19 January 2009, 23:10

@alexh

If i remember back a while you were looking into upgrading this unit of yours..

what stoped you from trying?

alexh · 19 January 2009, 23:10

1) The lack of any real knowledge in this area.
2) I cannot find the stand-offs (maybe I never had any)

It is still in my cupboard for over a year since I bought it due to the lack of standoffs and the poor quality design of the original heatsink & fan.

Plus I got it into my head I might be able to find an MC68040RC40A with an L88M mask which doesnt need heatsink or fan

Zetr0 · 19 January 2009, 23:15

@alexh

that sounds like a man with too many projects

alexh · 19 January 2009, 23:16

If beer, TV and women count as projects then yeah

keropi · 19 January 2009, 23:18

they sure do!

papa_november · 19 January 2009, 23:21

So wait, you got as far as the ROM and the voltage regulator and it didn't work?

If nobody's done it or knows exactly how to do it then it isn't really viable yet.

Zetr0 · 19 January 2009, 23:23

Quote:

Originally Posted by alexh

If beer, TV and women count as projects then yeah

Sounds like your get up and go, has got up and gone, but from what i know and read here, you are pushing yourself a bit hard with work and more work

I just hope the sports car is worth it

"A man needs a project in his life... something to achieve and be inspired by, however beer, women and TV are a welcome distraction..."

alexh · 19 January 2009, 23:25

Quote:

Originally Posted by papa_november

So wait, you got as far as the ROM and the voltage regulator and it didn't work?

Nope. Just got as far as buying a bog standard Apollo 4040 and putting it in the cupboard.

With a post-it note saying "remember to get some plastic standoffs".

papa_november · 19 January 2009, 23:41

I take it nobody's found out where to order metal standoffs of the exact same length? Because if I knew where to get them I'd buy zillions of them. Those plastic standoffs suck.

I see there's success stories of people upgrading the Apollo 1260. There seems to be a fairly good reason to assume the two are similar, but nothing's 100% or even 75% in this business. Are the 1260 and 4060 regulator boards 100% identical?

I might take you up on your offer if nothing better turns up.

alexh · 19 January 2009, 23:56

Quote:

Originally Posted by papa_november

Are the 1260 and 4060 regulator boards 100% identical?

Unsure. PG said he thought they were.

papa_november · 20 January 2009, 00:28

Clearly what we need are big-ass photos of the 060 version and it's voltage regulator module, then.

papa_november · 20 January 2009, 00:45

From the one blurry photo I've found, they do seem to look the same.

alexh · 20 January 2009, 00:59

How about these?

papa_november · 20 January 2009, 01:07

OK, then that settles it. How about the ROM? Is it dumped? The 1260's ROM is dumped but the 4060's ROM is almost certainly different.

Zetr0 · 20 January 2009, 01:34

Quote:

Originally Posted by alexh

How about these?

Mmmmmmm hardware Pr0n....

my collection thanks you senior Alexh

19 January 2009, 22:46	#1
papa_november Registered User Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: California Posts: 184	WTB: A4000 68060 board It can be pretty much any make/model. It doesn't have to have SCSI, but it does have to work. Something like a Cyberstorm Mk. I or II or GVP T-Rex would be ideal. Any 040 card with a known doable upgrade path to an 060 might work too.

19 January 2009, 23:10	#7
alexh Thalion Webshrine Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Oxford Posts: 14,355	1) The lack of any real knowledge in this area. 2) I cannot find the stand-offs (maybe I never had any) It is still in my cupboard for over a year since I bought it due to the lack of standoffs and the poor quality design of the original heatsink & fan. Plus I got it into my head I might be able to find an MC68040RC40A with an L88M mask which doesnt need heatsink or fan Last edited by alexh; 19 January 2009 at 23:16.

19 January 2009, 23:41	#14
papa_november Registered User Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: California Posts: 184	I take it nobody's found out where to order metal standoffs of the exact same length? Because if I knew where to get them I'd buy zillions of them. Those plastic standoffs suck. I see there's success stories of people upgrading the Apollo 1260. There seems to be a fairly good reason to assume the two are similar, but nothing's 100% or even 75% in this business. Are the 1260 and 4060 regulator boards 100% identical? I might take you up on your offer if nothing better turns up. Last edited by papa_november; 20 January 2009 at 00:36.

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19 January 2009, 22:51	#2
alexh Thalion Webshrine Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Oxford Posts: 14,355	Apollo 4040?

19 January 2009, 23:04	#3
papa_november Registered User Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: California Posts: 184	That would be pretty cool, yeah. I'd need an additional voltage regulator board to upgrade it. Are they still available? How much would they be? The EPROM wouldn't be an issue as I can burn it myself. (It's dumped, right?)

19 January 2009, 23:06	#4
Zetr0 Ya' like it Retr0? Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: United Kingdom Age: 49 Posts: 9,768	@papa_november you may also need the 131 updated MACH chips as well. Per Gunner might be able to help in upgrading this item. as you may know he can be found on Amiga.org

19 January 2009, 23:15	#8
Zetr0 Ya' like it Retr0? Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: United Kingdom Age: 49 Posts: 9,768	@alexh that sounds like a man with too many projects

19 January 2009, 23:16	#9
alexh Thalion Webshrine Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Oxford Posts: 14,355	If beer, TV and women count as projects then yeah

19 January 2009, 23:18	#10
keropi . Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Ioannina/Greece Posts: 5,040	they sure do!

19 January 2009, 23:21	#11
papa_november Registered User Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: California Posts: 184	So wait, you got as far as the ROM and the voltage regulator and it didn't work? If nobody's done it or knows exactly how to do it then it isn't really viable yet.

20 January 2009, 00:28	#16
papa_november Registered User Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: California Posts: 184	Clearly what we need are big-ass photos of the 060 version and it's voltage regulator module, then.

20 January 2009, 00:45	#17
papa_november Registered User Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: California Posts: 184	From the one blurry photo I've found, they do seem to look the same.

20 January 2009, 00:59	#18
alexh Thalion Webshrine Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Oxford Posts: 14,355	How about these?

20 January 2009, 01:07	#19
papa_november Registered User Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: California Posts: 184	OK, then that settles it. How about the ROM? Is it dumped? The 1260's ROM is dumped but the 4060's ROM is almost certainly different.

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